Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Sayon]

Elaborating on my earlier suggestion for a way different trilogy:

For the decades since the emperor's end, Leia serves the New Republic as its principal leader, a heroine of its denizens, a defender. Yet as the NR runs into problems as befits a new polity that just came to be in the Empire's wake, the Empire's insurgents and other advocates of the old regime scheme and plot. The NR loses members, perhaps some even even turn against it, warring, all while the Insurgents despite all her efforts becomes bolder and bigger. Her faith in the ideals of the Republic, the Force, wavers as she becomes desperate and embittered, while seeking to learn more from the Force User side of her heritage, slowly gravitates toward the dark. Ultimately, they make a pact.

Kylo in this version actually gets his start as a Sith Lord from his mommy.

 

[AGreatDipAtAFairPrice]

Even the monkey is a ripoff from an existing alien, a defel. They are on planets without certain light spectrum so they need to wear visors when they are off the planet or they get blinded.

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[Matthew216]

Welp, looks like Gundam's secret Zeon newtype monkeys have some competition finally.

To be fair, Animals using the force for various reasons has been part of the EU for awhile now. Usually it's something to hunt with (and a species called the Ysalamari actually adapted a way to push back to force to counter their main predator's use of it), I say if certain species like the Sith and Rakata can ALL be naturally sensitive to the Force, then some animals can.

 

[Creep3r]

Even the monkey is a ripoff from an existing alien, a defel. They are on planets without certain light spectrum so they need to wear visors when they are off the planet or they get blinded.

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Wookieepedia has also added the monkey to the sith ranks.

A fucking monkey. It looks so out of place compared to the other evil dudes, redeemed dudes and monsters.

To be fair, Animals using the force for various reasons has been part of the EU for awhile now. Usually it's something to hunt with (and a species called the Ysalamari actually adapted a way to push back to force to counter their main predator's use of it), I say if certain species like the Sith and Rakata can ALL be naturally sensitive to the Force, then some animals can.

Except he's not a dumb hunting animal that uses the Force to detect prey. He is highly intelligent and knows all the Sith alchemy and enchantment techniques and is a skilled technician and blacksmith. And the Rakata and the Sith aren't wild animals, they're sapient lifeforms on par with humans. An animal using the Force isn't weird since they're living things, but being able to achieve the rank of Sith is really pushing it. Even sithspawn aren't given that chance. And this also confirms that even Rey Sue's lame victory is meaningless since the sith are still around and more numerous than ever.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

Shadow over Innsmouth always gets brought up as having racist undertones, but I don't find it so obvious. The existential fear you are describing is far more obvious in Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and His Family, which is explicitly about a guy researching his ancestry, which involved whites mixing with Congolese.

Lovecraft was a pathetic figure who was racist even by the standards of educated people in the 1920s, but even so, I find the usual accusations against him to be overblown folklore. Also consider that the guy started moving very much left in his later years. His ideas about the fundamental meaningless and arbitrariness of humanity in the cosmos was always going to be at odds with his social conservatism.

If you want something concrete though, you just want to take his poem "On the Creation of Niggers":

When, long ago, the gods created Earth
In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
Yet were they too remote from humankind.
To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.

Concerning Shadow Over Innsmouth, he really, really hated seafood.

 

[XYZpdq]

Yeah there's a couple of big leaps going from "space ferrets evolved an anti-force gland" to "space equipment piloted by monkey (or Project X's nuke piloted by monkey)" to "occult metallurgist monkey".

 

[Creep3r]

Here's another thing from the IX dictionary. Its called "Kid Malmash". Its apparently a child that hasn't "pupated" yet. He's another donut steal of a pre-existing species but with creepier eyes.

What sticks out for me though is his bio. It says he makes a living escorting refugees, criminals, etc to safe zone planets but he's running out of planets due to the FO. So is the FO arresting criminals too? The Republic and Empire is down and the FO are idiots, so who's arresting these criminals? Are they just being executed on the spot? And you're running out of destinations within a fucking galaxy? Just how much shit has the FO destroyed?

 

[Exceptionally Exceptional]

Again, only thing that seems to have any future is the Mandalorian and even Anthony Daniels seems to indicate that its positive trend may not last, especially with how they've said before that they want to tie it to the FO's origin story. And even with Kennedy gone, the taint may never leave...
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Whoever created that abominable comic.... I want them dead! I want their arms and legs hacked off with a lightsaber, then I want them hit with force lightning until their eyeballs cook out, then I want them forced choked slowly and repeatedly over the course of an hour until they asphyxiate in the maximum amount of pain, then I want them thrown out a fucking airlock!

Lord Vader deserves better.

 

[Cemila Mandes]

From r/saltierthancrait:

Dare I say Maul shouldn't have been brought back in the first place?

At the very least, keep his resurrection to the cartoons. Anyone who watches the films for the first time in chronological order is going to wonder why Maul returns and never shows up again.

 

[Creep3r]

Whoever created that abominable comic.... I want them dead! I want their arms and legs hacked off with a lightsaber, then I want them hit with force lightning until their eyeballs cook out, then I want them forced choked slowly and repeatedly over the course of an hour until they asphyxiate in the maximum amount of pain, then I want them thrown out a fucking airlock!

Lord Vader deserves better.

Aphra's whole run is just one infuriating mess made all the more worse by how she has connections to practically every single OT character except Lando and Yoda. But that'll change soon since her next series run takes place during ESB... They're treating her as the "Behind the Scenes" anti-hero of the OT...

Dare I say Maul shouldn't have been brought back in the first place?

At the very least, keep his resurrection to the cartoons. Anyone who watches the films for the first time in chronological order is going to wonder why Maul returns and never shows up again.

To be frank I disliked his resurrection in Filoni Wars too (although it was still done better than anything Disney cooked up). The only place his resurrection worked best was as a one shot "what if" story in non-canon comic book which was itself a far better fight than the shit Rebels produced.

Trying to make a recurring character out of Maul was a bad idea.

 

[Cemila Mandes]

To be frank I disliked his resurrection in Filoni Wars too. The only place his resurrection worked was as a one shot "what if" story in non-canon comic book which was itself a far better fight than the shit Rebels produced.
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Trying to make a recurring character out of Maul was a bad idea.

I own that comic book. Great stuff.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I'm watching this video now, but it corroborates much of what @Jaimas's friend was saying:

Star Wars is so similar to Christianity that that's why Progressives & far leftists want it destroyed.

The New Testament began with the birth of a Child.

 

[verissimus]

Here's another thing from the IX dictionary. Its called "Kid Malmash". Its apparently a child that hasn't "pupated" yet. He's another donut steal of a pre-existing species but with creepier eyes.
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What sticks out for me though is his bio. It says he makes a living escorting refugees, criminals, etc to safe zone planets but he's running out of planets due to the FO. So is the FO arresting criminals too? The Republic and Empire is down and the FO are idiots, so who's arresting these criminals? Are they just being executed on the spot? And you're running out of destinations within a fucking galaxy? Just how much shit has the FO destroyed?

LMAO. It's like he has a cool strut and suit going on, but then you look at that that face...that face just makes me burst out laughing. What a stupid design.

 

[Jaimas]

A nice thing to dream about but highly unlikely that they would kill off Rey since it would just result in bad press for them which might affect stocks/investors. Best thing you could hope for is for them to just retcon Disney shit and maybe keep the Mandalorian and put it in its own new separate continuity or the old one (I mean heck it feels more like an EU property than a Disney property but with shitty sequel references hammed in like those fucking nu-aliens and Canto Bight), and dismiss any sequel references as being completely different from shit in the sequels or just edit them out in re-releases, although recent sequel references are getting pretty heavy-handed. Also the presence of the Darksaber bothers me a bit. Is Filoni just going to keep forcing this thing into every project he makes? It doesn't help that its not a particular favorite weapon of mine since it wasn't even something Filoni wanted to do and George just forced him to make it a lightsaber despite that Filoni wanted to make it cortosis. Is this the first red flag of Filoni adding the usual Filoni cameos like Ahsoka, Hondo, Rex and whatnot? That kind of shit only helps to make shit feel incredibly small. Only character that might fit with the mandalorian is Hondo, but the character has been so overused and is literally in everything Disney except the Disney Trilogy so how many more places can he fucking be in? Even in the DT, despite not being in it, his flag appears on Yellow Yoda's castle, so you know he's partly involved with that shit and he's part of the Resistance according to Galaxy's Edge...

It would be amusing, but again, best anyone can hope for is a retcon, and even then can we really be sure about it? Or if it would even be good or try to fix ALL the problems? Even if Kennedy gets the boot, she's left dozens of clones behind to carry on her will, and even worse subordinates like Kiri Hart. Also the comic rights would still be own by Marvel which is just full of fuck ups and the current books publisher would still hand out writing rights to Wendig-tier idiots. If Kennedy does get the boot, I hope that includes the new story group and all her duplicates, along with either giving the SW comic rights to someone else or telling Marvel to cut the crap and start over, or just stop with the comics since they haven't even sold well since 2015 when compared to the post-TFA run and their run under Dark Horse. There's also that whole Project Luminous nonsense on the way which is even more sequel/Rey glorification nonsense. Kennedy might get the boot but will anyone really have the guts to tell all those content creators brought in for the project to just drop what they're doing or leave? It just seems to unlikely.

Again, only thing that seems to have any future is the Mandalorian and even Anthony Daniels seems to indicate that its positive trend may not last, especially with how they've said before that they want to tie it to the FO's origin story. And even with Kennedy gone, the taint may never leave...
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.....Why the fuck is every single character these assclowns love just inexplicably capable of tabling any threat forever?Z

This is not how characterization or writing is done. Fucking Sonichu is less egregious than this.

 

[HandsomeDan]

I've covered this before here:

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/star-w...kywalker-spoilers.32492/page-605#post-5157741

But to sum it up, there's several designers but Jake Lunt Davies designs the majority of new creatures, droids and vehicles and he seems to prefer his own abominations over the pre-Disney ones, however he has shown to be actually capable of making good alien designs or ones that actually are and look like the originals instead of donut steals, but according to Davies, many of his better designs are rejected by the higher ups and he has to convert old aliens to look uglier or like donut steals. He also made a pretty good drawing of a female Rodian, but the concept was rejected and replaced with an uglier androgynous Rodian who just looks like an orange Greedo supposedly because it would be recognizable to audiences. So in short, Davies makes some pretty terrible designs and can be full of it at times, but the awful designs only happen because the higher ups want awful and ugly aliens or donut steals despite that he can actually make good non-gross designs.

And that's not the only dino species in Star Wars:

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James continues to be based, but very nice about it. I remember him saying a while back in a movie review that people had become too critical, and that you should be able to turn your brain off and enjoy a movie. I believe this was in his Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull review, long before his infamous "No Ghostbusters 2016 review. I refuse" video. In the end, he's not wrong about either conclusion: it's okay to turn your brain off and enjoy a movie, but if you know you're going to hate it, why give them your money?

Meanwhile Justin's opinions are awful. The only thing we have in common is we both like D-O, except it's got nothing on baby yeed.



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This is what the farm looks like when Luke gets there. Charred and smoking, but still standing.

Yes, it was made very much clear at least to me that they completly destroyed and burned out the place. At the very least after 30 years the place would have been completely stripped of anything usable. Most likely someone would have claimed it for their own.

 

[Creep3r]

LMAO. It's like he has a cool strut and suit going on, but then you look at that that face...that face just makes me burst out laughing. What a stupid design.

Also that one red dude from TFA was in IX.

He's part of the Resistance now and according to his entry all his favorite planets have been destroyed... Are you fucking kidding me here? How much of the Galaxy is even left at this point? Also despite that he wears a Kaleesh battle helmet, he is not actually a Kaleesh (Grievou's species).

He's just a human with black wrinkly skin and a pig-nose called a Delphin or something (Dolphin?). Overall its just another donut steal. Also this makes this meme truer than ever:

Also its made all the more inconsistent because in TFA you could see a little mouth open at the bottom of his helmet which made him look like a cyborg or something.

Also he is joined by his "crew" in IX, which is just the fat ugly guy from TFA who is also another donut steal version of Baragwins.

Despite that Disney's shitty TFA tie-in novel claims that his crew is made up of old aliens and a Filoni clone despite none of them appearing in the movie or any Disney movies.

Yes, it was made very much clear at least to me that they completly destroyed and burned out the place. At the very least after 30 years the place would have been completely stripped of anything usable. Most likely someone would have claimed it for their own.

Pretty much. And even in old canon the property ended up being bought by Biggs' family. No farmer's going to let a nice piece of moist land go to waste like that.

 

[HandsomeDan]

Any word on theatrical cuts of the OT from disney? I know I heard rumours about it. I'm really fucking stalty about my vhs' getting rect and not having the normal versions.

Look into getting yourself a copy of the "Despecialized Editions" the quality is very good and I enjoy them very much. I even made my own dvd labels, sleeves and inserts for them. The thought of all of us handing di$ney a check for 1 billion dollars to get the theatrical cuts makes me feel awful, its like paying property tax.

It's also ironic considering the Lars homestead was a place Luke couldn't wait to leave.

Its not about Luke anymore you racist.

Whoever created that abominable comic.... I want them dead! I want their arms and legs hacked off with a lightsaber, then I want them hit with force lightning until their eyeballs cook out, then I want them forced choked slowly and repeatedly over the course of an hour until they asphyxiate in the maximum amount of pain, then I want them thrown out a fucking airlock!

Lord Vader deserves better.

I could not say it better myself. What in the name of hell is this. Vader would have ripped that stupid cunts intestines out through her throat after something like this. I would get more angry at this garbage, but I genuinely do not consider any of this current disney stuff to even exist. Itscthe only way to get through this current mental institution creative nightmare. They could make episode 10 a gay porn film and it would be ok because none of this actually exists as far as I am concerned.

 

[Miller]

Dare I say Maul shouldn't have been brought back in the first place?

Maul's storyline in TCW was fine but he shouldn't have appeared in SW Rebels, the tone of the show wasn't made for characters like Maul, Tarkin, Vader or Thrawn. The whole revenge story was ruined by the shitty Space Aladdin B-plot.

 

[HandsomeDan]

Also that one red dude from TFA was in IX.
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He's part of the Resistance now and according to his entry all his favorite planets have been destroyed... Are you fucking kidding me here? How much of the Galaxy is even left at this point? Also despite that he wears a Kaleesh battle helmet, he is not actually a Kaleesh (Grievou's species).
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He's just a human with black wrinkly skin and a pig-nose called a Delphin or something (Dolphin?). Overall its just another donut steal. Also this makes this meme truer than ever:
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Also its made all the more inconsistent because in TFA you could see a little mouth open at the bottom of his helmet which made him look like a cyborg or something.

Also he is joined by his "crew" in IX, which is just the fat ugly guy from TFA who is also another donut steal version of Baragwins.
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Despite that Disney's shitty TFA tie-in novel claims that his crew is made up of old aliens and a Filoni clone despite none of them appearing in the movie or any Disney movies.
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Pretty much. And even in old canon the property ended up being bought by Biggs' family. No farmer's going to let a nice piece of moist land go to waste like that.

Exactly, just like these people know nothing about weapons or warfare, they know nothing about farming or owning a piece of property either. It seems trite to say it because its so obvious, but these peoples lack of knowledge on virtually every subject matter except for social justice issues is why we have the nu wars films books and products we currently have.

 

[Cemila Mandes]

Maul's storyline in TCW was fine but he shouldn't have appeared in SW Rebels, the tone of the show wasn't made for characters like Maul, Tarkin, Vader or Thrawn. The whole revenge story was ruined by the shitty Space Aladdin B-plot.

It was probably due to TCW's cancellation, which left Maul's fate open-ended, so he was inserted into Rebels to conclude his story. If TCW originally ended with a proper conclusion, I suspect Maul would have died in the final season. And that's all now completely pointless with TCW coming back.