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Hey, @FROG, check it out...from that most reputable of sources, Comicbook.com...

Crazy Rich Asians Director Wants to Make a Star Wars Rose Tico Series for Disney+


Can't be bothered to C&P more, can't be bothered to archive it. (Changed my mind. Sites like this need to die.) But, I must admit I got a chuckle.

As R. Lee Ermey used to say:

"Jesus H. Christ."

The powers-that-be should really wake up and realize that Asian Chinese Chinese-looking people that keep getting identified as Asian are NOT a marginalized or persecuted racial group that needs representation. In fact, they are the very same group that would use such tactics against actual minorities in entertainment, making it all about them and their plight (When they are willingly subservient to the white man, probably the only people enjoying it.)

I don't know how to explain sources properly, but the world outside gated Hollywood and the views they project are vastly, wholly different than what KK and whoever is eating her out are trying to control the narrative.

In my military service, I remembered my Sgt. Major yelling at us when one of our other fellows had his gf leave him for some big-wig high-roller, and the Sgt. Major was asking if we had anything to our name. Long story short, it ended up as a spiel he drummed in every cohort-

Sgt. Major: "What's the difference between a chinese girl who goes with a white man and a non-chinese girl who has the white boyfriend?"

Recruits: "We don't know Sir, what is it?"

Sgt. Major: "White boy has to fight and make the other girls suck his dick, but not Lady China. She'll do it for free to save face."

The Chinese guys are ALWAYS uncomfortable but they never cry racial insensitivity at such a critical juncture in our uniformed system because they know it's how God made them. And Singapore's highest positions, military included have Chinese in-charges which know of the on-the-grounds training, and not a single peep from them decrying this as inhumane hurting of fee-fees.

I often wonder where the SJWs are. We'd stick medical needles in their eyes for kicks if they came around our backyard.
 
Rise of Skywalker is well on it's way to make less than Rogue One in North America. It's having a terrible second weekend and it doesn't look like it will recover. The media shilling assumed that the good numbers it was getting on Christmas is because of the movie and not because it's the holidays and everyone is at work. There's a rumor that Disney will release an extended cut in theaters so the final box office numbers don't look so embarrassing.
 
And also while George may not have intended it that way, the mere implication of midis and the portrayal of the jedi within the film shows that they had become too secular and political to the point where their end almost seems like a necessary tragedy and it also makes Kenobi an even better character than we remember.
I absolutely believe that it was intentional on Lucas's part, because it fits far too neatly with Luke's conflict with Obi-Wan and Yoda urging him to kill his father (and then being proven right for defying them) to be the result of happy coincidence.
 
Rise of Skywalker is well on it's way to make less than Rogue One in North America. It's having a terrible second weekend and it doesn't look like it will recover. The media shilling assumed that the good numbers it was getting on Christmas is because of the movie and not because it's the holidays and everyone is at work. There's a rumor that Disney will release an extended cut in theaters so the final box office numbers don't look so embarrassing.
Give me percentage man, I want to laugh at a 70+ drop
 
There's a rumor that Disney will release an extended cut in theaters so the final box office numbers don't look so embarrassing.
Totally not desperate at all. Nope. I wonder if they'll do what Cats did and just ship out some last minute patches to try and salvage this mess? Imagine if they actually add that fucked up Oracle sequence.

Even the Wook hasn't updated to reflect the new dating changes, and there's no page for it. Are they debating behind the scenes how best to implement it all at once or are even they pissed?
Update:
It seems some users have started adding BSI and ASI to articles, but none of the admins are currently talking about moving the BBY/ABY pages to BSI/ASI yet. Only discussion on the matter is from Lewisr (who I still suspect is Matt Martin) who thinks that the site shouldn't replace the dating system just yet until the BSI/ASI system is mentioned in-universe and outside a dictionary. Also, there's a higher rate of activity on Wookieepedia this week, the most activity its seen since TFA. It seems to be divided into three editing factions. One for Mandalorian shit, one for Legends articles and one for IX shit. Funnily enough, the most visited article right now is the Old/Legends version of the Lightsaber crystal article and Revan.

They've also officially renamed Lando...
Also they wanted Landonis's interactions with Han to be "flirtatious"... Move over Biggs+Porkins and FinnPoe, you got competetion...
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Also how long until they officially rename Luke to Jake/Luuuke?
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Give me percentage man, I want to laugh at a 70+ drop
Ah, it won't have that kind of drop sadly , TLJ was historically placed for that record drop due to bad word of mouth and the fact that Cristmas eve was on Sunday on it's second weekend.

But 60-65% drop is terrible, given how TROS is historically placed for a softer drop due to the calendar.People were expecting less than 50%. And in the third weekend the holidays are over so it should be even funnier.
 
What's with the people popping up to demand more Rose Tico content?



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The powers-that-be should really wake up and realize that Asian Chinese Chinese-looking people that keep getting identified as Asian are NOT a marginalized or persecuted racial group that needs representation. In fact, they are the very same group that would use such tactics against actual minorities in entertainment, making it all about them and their plight (When they are willingly subservient to the white man, probably the only people enjoying it.)

Pretty much. Another reason that Disney fucked up the Chinese market is because Bob Iger is a dumbfuck who thinks that all Asians are identical when the Chinese basically hate all Asians but themselves, as Kelly Marie Tran is Viet. They're not going to accept some baizuo bullshit and swallow it like the West does which is why Star Wars constantly fucking bombs.

Its ok to not know, since her character is fucking terrible and everyone fucking hates her.

Of course, any sane company would immediately laugh at this dude insulting them on the one hand but demanding that they pay him to make a television show on the other. So Disney will 100% do it.

I have never seen delusional jackasses defend an unpopular character this hard. No one likes her, and a few thousand people crying on twitter doesn't change that.

I'd call this guy's bluff.

"Oh, you're so compassionate. Will you take a risk and do it for scale?"

Its so easy to play this massive faggot and embarrass him. NOBODY will watch a Rose Tico show. She's a terrible fucking character that everyone hated. JJ included her because of obligation. I think if he could have gotten away with it, he would have killed her off screen.

And they don't actually like her. Its to 'spite' people. Lets be real here, nobody likes this fucking character. Not even the people claiming to. The guy said the shit that he said to virtue signal like a massive faggot. Dude's not crying for money or for jobs and he knows Disney will not call his bluff because it can't be seen publicly embarrassing dumb shit directors, which it absolutely should to guys like this.

I mean hell, nobody would watch a Rey, Poe or Finn show. Literally everyone who consumes Star Wars media, the actual fandom, never wants to see these people ever again. They'd pay for Disney+ to see a 30 second clip where they all die. For me, I'm more of a casual fan that's here to laugh at the fuck ups of a major corporation and revel in their absolute failure. They fucked up 4 billion dollars and 30+ years with a single film. That's impressive.

The blastback to Phantom Menace was but a mild fart compared to the shitstorm that was the blastback to TLJ. At the worst, Phantom Menace was a boring fucking movie with shitty writing and shitty implementation of ideas. The Midichlorians line was a fucking botch, and the movie has awful fucking progression, but the high points of the movie were pretty universally loved even by the movie's detractors. Up until online critics started prodding it for yucks, I rarely heard any arguments that the Phantom Menace ruined Star Wars, save but for the most spergy. At worst I heard that it was a bad movie with bad writing and bad pacing, which is fucking accurate.

The difference between now and then is that not only is the ST's writing and characterization infinitely worse (and lazier), but is intended to specifically alienate, belittle, and accost the fans for the high crime of giving a shit. With the Prequels you could make arguments that there was some outstandingly good ideas, excellent action sequences, and more than a few moments with actual weight and payoff, even if many of them fell wide of the mark. The ST was specifically intended to piss off and alienate fans, destroy the old mythos, and undermine everything the original series stood for. They then had a host of fucking morons telling people that they were sexist/racist/fill-in-the-blank-ist if they didn't suck TLJ's fetid cock.

One was done out of incompetence.
One was done out of malice.
And even the spergiest fan can tell the fucking difference.

Exactly. This is what Disney and the people who enjoy the sequels don't get. The prequels are bad because they're incompetent. They also didn't actively kill Star Wars. They were just bad. They didn't insult your intelligence. Even in TPM, you had iconic shit come out of it like Darth Maul and Duel of Fates.

There's nothing 'iconic' about the sequel trilogy. There's nothing there. Its all malicious dogshit, designed to insult and belittle loved characters. It is basically designed from the ground up to alienate people who enjoyed everything from before when Disney acquired it and burn it to the ground. Which is petty spite against Lucas because he's not an idiot and didn't entirely sell off Star Wars.

Even the ridiculous shit from it is forgettable, but nobody is going to forget 'I have the High Ground' or 'I hate sand, its terrible and gets everywhere'. That's what's hysterical to me. 'Iconic' Rose Tico will be forgotten about in less than a year. Everyone in Disney is eager to shovel dirt on the Sequel trilogy and try and forget it ever existed as it serves as a reminder that they destroyed an entire franchise with a single movie and have yet to recover. Not even the actors want a singular fucking thing to do with it. LOL if people think John Boyega will EVER do Star Wars again.

If they possessed an infinitesimal bit of intelligence, they'd hand everything over to Faverau and pay him whatever he wanted. the Mandalorian is the ONLY good thing to come out of Disney Star Wars. The only fucking thing.
 
Apparently Pablo Hidalgo has his own subreddit where he is worshiped as some kind of prophet or god where they compile all of his Disney gospel, but its members only.

Anyone have any idea of how cringe this shit is?
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSupremePablo

I remember when that subreddit was open to the public, it was just memes and showcasing Pablos tweets and anwsers to questions. I wonder if Pablo is now a mod, and that's why it's lock to members only. We can't have wrongthink on reddit can we?
 
But the sequel designs are straight-up lifted from Ralph McQuarrie's design prototypes of the X-Wing with VERY minor touch-up.
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If anything, his original designs of them really look sleeker and more streamlined than the OT's one, which is clunkier (must also account that it's for practical effect's sake at the time, not the CG mish-mash we have nowadays) and you can see the differences from draft production to what they could actually do at the time.

I wish I could find the webcomic, but somebody made the point that the new TFA X-Wing designs were re:tarded because when the wings would open, they would bisect their turbines and immediately go tits-up. I don't think even McQuarrie intended his original design to have actual turbines.

They've won. Their goal wasn't diversity, it was the destruction of every myth and values in our current societies.

I'm not so sure they succeeded, otherwise they wouldn't be losing money and asses in seats. They're certainly going in that direction.

I used to think like a RLM drone but now after watching Star Wars and Star Trek turn into crap I believe that you should let the creator do whatever he wants. It's the same for the Alien franchise for example, I know a lot of people want to see the IP taken away from Ridley Scott's hands but I don't want that to be given to Blomkamp the one-trick pony or someone else.

Shit, I'll take an Alien 5 with old Michael Biehn and Sigourney Weaver. I'm not interested in yet another movie about David the gay genocidal android.

The prequel stuff is complicated. One, George knew his limits. He tried for a while to bring in co-writers, like Kasdan and Darabont. Also, a few others, don't remember who. Not to mention, he approached other directors...

I remember this from The Secret History of Star Wars. George knew he couldn't write for shit since day 1, but to his credit, he did write the big Vader reveal in Empire, where before he was just the same second-in-command villain from teh first Star Wars.

The big fuck up though, by everyone, was Jar Jar Binks. That was something George was, clearly, taking an unnecessary risk on..

Even taking him out, you still have Anakin as a 10-year-old engineering wunderkind and pilot who's strong with the Force. Still had more personality than Rey mind you, but I imagine people didn't like him that much more than Jar Jar at the time.

The PT is rich with new ideas and that's great but there's so many areas just a slight alteration could have made the PT so much more impactful. One of the simplest examples of environmental storytelling that would have been easy as hell to implement would be to gradually make Coruscant look more and more worn, ragged, and less busy as the PT progresses, circumstances obviously brought about by the ongoing war. Clone wars for all its problems got this, so it's very clear that the concept was solid.

I would've liked to have seen or heard about Count Dooku in Episode I, assuming George already had plans for the character by then. I also would've reimagined much of the assassination attempt scenes up until Anakin goes off-world with Padme. I wouldn't have been against a chase, but the whole convoluted sequence from Padme's suite all the way down to Jango Fett conspicuously jetpacking into the sky needed to be scrapped or redone. I don't think it did much for Anakin's character that a more subtle sequence of events might have, like the same assassin trying to poison or shoot Padme at a dinner function with important parties. Anakin could stop a poisoned dart mid-air or get between Padme and someone trying to nick her with a poisoned pin, thereby initiating a chase.

Scott wasn't the creator of the Alien IP, though, not like Lucas was with Star Wars. There are certainly moments in the first film where his influence seems obvious, story-wise (Ash randomly bloviating about the parasitic xenomorph being "perfect" mirrors Scott's weird fixation on "superior" synthetic organisms as seen in Blade Runner and his two Alien prequels), but on the whole, Dan O'Bannon and James Cameron should receive just as much if not more creative credit.

Thanks, I didn't know about this. Too bad Cameron cares more about Space Indians than making good Terminator or Alien flicks.

My only stipulation is that they have a point to it. Also, the character needs to serve the show and not outshine/overtake Din...

Dyn shouldn't be a pushover at this point, but then neither should Boba. They ought to be evenly matched at first, having almost the same equipment. Maybe Boba got some upgrades after his disgrace on Jabba's sail barge.


Hope they enjoy losing money. Is this a case of "any attention is good attention"?

[The Phantom Menace] was an atom bomb on the reputation of Star Wars. People were furious/betrayed with it...

I think that's overstating it. It was the first real disappointment in a Star Wars movie, but I don't think it was ever a complete disappointment. While on the one hand you had Jar Jar, Anakin and midichlorians, on the other hand you had Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon Jinn, and Maul. Then of course there's Sheev, but he didn't really start to shine until Episode II.

At worst I heard that it was a bad movie with bad writing and bad pacing, which is fucking accurate.

Bad dialogue mostly, but there's enough bad writing in it overall (Naboo has a hollow core? Okay). I'm not sure I ever had a problem with the pacing of TPM.

and the most popular character prior to 1999 was Han Solo, with the West End Games RPGs being organized with the expectation that most players were going to be adopting some variation of his archetype as their PC

As charming as Han Solo is compared to Luke, I always liked Luke more as a sword-wielding Jedi hero. I care more about seeing him on adventures post-ROTJ, but it wouldn't be complete without Han, Leia & co.
 
If you don't mind me asking, what was your age when Phantom Menace came out?

Cause this could be a perspective thing..

I was 18. I went to see it with my dad, one of the last times I spent with the guy.

He liked it, and he's one of those Autists who lives and breathes Star Wars and knew everything about everything. When I was watching the movies when I was little, I could ask any question and he'd know the answer, from basic lore shit to complex backstory and character motivation. Like me, he thought the movie had problems but as a whole he thought it had good potential. We both were in agreement where the biggest problems were: The dialogue, the slapstick segments with Jar-Jar, the entire end scene with Anakin blowing up the Federation control ship, how slow the movie was, that kind of shit.

My father also argued vehemently that Sean Connery should have been in the Qui-Gon role (draw your own conclusions).
 
Exactly. This is what Disney and the people who enjoy the sequels don't get. The prequels are bad because they're incompetent. They also didn't actively kill Star Wars. They were just bad. They didn't insult your intelligence. Even in TPM, you had iconic shit come out of it like Darth Maul and Duel of Fates.

There's nothing 'iconic' about the sequel trilogy. There's nothing there. Its all malicious dogshit, designed to insult and belittle loved characters. It is basically designed from the ground up to alienate people who enjoyed everything from before when Disney acquired it and burn it to the ground. Which is petty spite against Lucas because he's not an idiot and didn't entirely sell off Star Wars.

Even the ridiculous shit from it is forgettable, but nobody is going to forget 'I have the High Ground' or 'I hate sand, its terrible and gets everywhere'. That's what's hysterical to me. 'Iconic' Rose Tico will be forgotten about in less than a year. Everyone in Disney is eager to shovel dirt on the Sequel trilogy and try and forget it ever existed as it serves as a reminder that they destroyed an entire franchise with a single movie and have yet to recover. Not even the actors want a singular fucking thing to do with it. LOL if people think John Boyega will EVER do Star Wars again.

If they possessed an infinitesimal bit of intelligence, they'd hand everything over to Faverau and pay him whatever he wanted. the Mandalorian is the ONLY good thing to come out of Disney Star Wars. The only fucking thing.
Fucking thank you. Once again proving yourself as the best damn poster around.

You had to show me this.

I'm going to read some Goblin Slayer now. At least I won't have to endure constant rape, just intermittent.
Goblin Slayer and Dungeon Meshi are my only painkillers during this time...

I was 18. I went to see it with my dad, one of the last times I spent with the guy.

He liked it, and he's one of those Autists who lives and breathes Star Wars and knew everything about everything. When I was watching the movies when I was little, I could ask any question and he'd know the answer, from basic lore shit to complex backstory and character motivation. Like me, he thought the movie had problems but as a whole he thought it had good potential. We both were in agreement where the biggest problems were: The dialogue, the slapstick segments with Jar-Jar, the entire end scene with Anakin blowing up the Federation control ship, how slow the movie was, that kind of shit.

My father also argued vehemently that Sean Connery should have been in the Qui-Gon role (draw your own conclusions).
Basically like my experience too. But what really bothered me and my company at the time was not Jar-Jar, casting or the acting (although we had our little beefs with each) but the notion that Anakin built C-3PO. That was pretty much what we mainly complained about for days rather than Sean Connery or Jar Jar (although we would end up getting over it after Star Wars Tales came out). Everything else was just okay or we didn't mind as much, but we loved the podracing shit. The movie itself felt like a wasted opportunity sure, especially due to choosing to have the films start off during Anakin's childhood, but nothing that felt like it raped any of our childhoods (Attack of the Clones was mostly that for some of us but it was mostly because the depiction of the clone wars was not like previous media had described it and the timegap felt too small, but we got over it after Genndy Wars came out) and in the end we really didn't care since the OT remained unchanged. Hell, my old man and his friends loved the shit out of the prequels more than me and my group did. One thing did strike me as pretty neat though rewatching it years later was that the parade theme at the end of the movie was a brighter and happier version of the Emperor's theme... Like some fucking masked foreshadowing of what was to come which looking back on it now was quite an impressive little easter egg which shows the Emperor was true star of the prequels.
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So comparing the two fridays we have 71% drop.
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Oh wow. I did not see that coming.
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