Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Non-Expert!]

What a cunt of a father. It's normal and 100% understandable to be frustrated and distraught when a perfectly healthy person suddenly requires round the clock care, and it is just as understandable to mourn the person they used to be, because let's face it, that little girl is gone forever.

What's definitely NOT normal is having an ego so big that you make your own children basically call you God, and not accept that tragedies happen to everyone including yourself. The amount of people who 100% recovered from a devastating brain injury like that are exactly zero, and your speshul little girl won't be an exception just because you think it's beneath you to have a "defective" child.

I am going to break it down, really simple. Long but simple.

When you become a parent this is what you sign up for. You love this child, cradle to the grave. Whereas before you could walk away, throw everything in a dumpster and toss in a lit match, you can't do that any more. Suddenly you have this helpless little lump lying next to you in L&D, who is holding your heart, body and soul hostage. I think that this is what they are talking about when they say that you lose a lot of freedom when you have a child.

You also know that as this child grows and changes, you won't always have the upper hand and now you are bound to him. Your child is the ONE thing that somebody can hold over you, and you will buckle every time, to save that kid. Kid turns into a veg, you are stuck. But you love him or her no less.

For normal people, having a child is more of an ego-crushing thing, because suddenly you are not in control of their fate, but you are in so many ways, held hostage to it. She isn't a trophy you discuss on line and present to your congregation, because you want to protect her from ill-intent. You are also often stuck at home with squirmy annoying kids, because at least they are safe.

Normal parents only very begrudgingly allow their child to go out with neighbors and family friends, precisely because they are not in your hands and you have no control over whether they ... say ... fall off a golf cart and break their head open. But you are stuck brokenhearted, as you watch your kid either die, of face a life of disability.

And then there are narcissistic parents who never wanted a real shitting, pissing, barfing, crying child to begin with, but rather a mechanical doll who performs in ways that please them. They drop their kids off wherever, so they can have the "me time" to which they feel entitled.

And when the labor of parenting turns brings shame and aggravation into your life, solution is to mock the child who has failed to deliver. In mocking the child you assert a type of petty dominance, as the mocker, not the mocked ...

Tl;dr these people are narcissistic and love only themselves.

 

[Montage]

He’s probably mad because God did this to him.

 

[Non-Expert!]

He’s probably mad because God did this to him.

Being a narc, he is probably mad that God allowed this to happen to him, just like any other common individual. Changing his mentally crippled, adolescent daughter's diapers and mopping up drool apparently, was God's plan for him.

 

[Trombonista]

OK.

This guy is a cunt.

A gaping, fetid cunt.

That's an insult to cunts.

 

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

Can you imagine being on the receiving end of a conversation that goes “So, Eva suffered a catastrophic brain injury but it’s fine because she’s going to be miraculously healed”.

If he wasn’t such an asshole I’d feel sorry for him. But he’s mocking his brain damaged daughter’s facial expressions for lols on Instagram, so on second thoughts, he can get to fuck.

This is so fucking disgusting. I'm MOTI and I don't even care. I can't imaging being like this.

 

[Non-Expert!]

This is so fucking disgusting. I'm MOTI and I don't even care. I can't imaging being like this.

Naive question: what does MOTI stand for?

 

[Elysian]

Naive question: what does MOTI stand for?

Mad On The Internet

 

[I hate children?]

Can you imagine being on the receiving end of a conversation that goes “So, Eva suffered a catastrophic brain injury but it’s fine because she’s going to be miraculously healed”.

If he wasn’t such an asshole I’d feel sorry for him. But he’s mocking his brain damaged daughter’s facial expressions for lols on Instagram, so on second thoughts, he can get to fuck.

Did he remove this picture from his Instagram ? It was on there a few days ago but is gone now so I am hoping someone said something or he realized the mom and him looked like they were purposefully making fun of Ava .

 

[JackDonaghysSecretLover]

Did he remove this picture from his Instagram ? It was on there a few days ago but is gone now so I am hoping someone said something or he realized the mom and him looked like they were purposefully making fun of Ava .

Last I looked it was still there but he had comments turned off

 

[Non-Expert!]

Update on Tinslee:

Hospital can take 11-month-old Texas girl off life support, judge rules; family to appeal

"Our doctors and nurses have done everything humanely possible to save Tinslee's life," the hospital says of Tinslee Lewis, who was born with a rare heart defect.

www.nbcnews.com

What evidence is the court admitting, that she is in pain?
All we have to go with, is that she is in pain because the doctor said so.
Who is she harming, really, by being on life-support?

 

[MiniMuffin]

My dad sent me this article by the Daily Fail about an woman who came out of a seven-month coma at the Ohio State University hospital after she was “pronounced brain dead by doctors.” I really, really wish articles would stop saying things like this because it’s incredibly misleading.

The woman, Kertisha Brabson, was never pronounced brain dead. Her mom, in this article that the Daily Mail one links to, says “They told me she was brain-dead and pull the plug” but also says, in an effort to get treatment for Kertisha, the mom has her transferred to another hospital twice. Other hospitals are not going to accept corpses as patients. It also talks about her having “up to 20 seizures a day” and brain-dead people don’t get seizures cause they have no electrical activity in the brain.

I don’t doubt that the doctors told Kertisha’s mom her prognosis was poor and that they may have suggested withdrawing life support, but they never told her mom she was brain dead because she clearly wasn’t. Her mom probably isn’t lying, she just doesn’t understand what brain death is.

Articles like these may make for nice clickbait (certainly that’s all the Daily Fail cares about) but they are very harmful and I’m convinced they’ve contributed to the increase of parents in denial about their corpse-children.

 

[Non-Expert!]

The Daily mail and the sun are tabloids and they are not US based.

If the doctors really told her to pull the plug, they were probably not that adamant about it, because she got a second opinion. And eventually her daughter was admitted where they could treat her.

We don't know what the medical center said, until they accept an interview and are able to explain their position.

Again, all we have is the point of view of the mother (who by her own admission) is uneducated, and her limited understanding.

I agree with you, the article is misleading about the finality of a brain death diagnosis.

 

[MiniMuffin]

We don't know what the medical center said, until they accept an interview and are able to explain their position.

Again, all we have is the point of view of the mother (who by her own admission) is uneducated, and her limited understanding.

The problem is that unless the patient or her family were to sign a release to allow the hospital to talk publicly about this woman’s case, they can’t say ANYTHING. People can make up outrageous lies about things that were supposedly said or done in hospitals and because of patient privacy laws there’s nothing the hospital can say or do to contradict them.

And the outlets that put out articles like these don’t usually ask for a release that would allow the hospital to talk to journalists or release medical records to journalists. They just go by what the family says.

That’s why misleading stories like these keep popping up over and over.

 

[Barbarella]

Tinslee should be in a place where they keep patients who need life support but are not actively dying. There are such places and I wonder why this hospital is so eager to remove it all and let her die.

I understand not wanting to incur the costs but this child has a functioning, normal brain. Those are not the people that we remove a vent from, and doing so sets a terrible precedent.

When the brain is gone, fuck it, pull the plug. But heart and lungs can be replaced, and technology is advancing at a fast pace. Nobody knows if this child would be better off dead, or if she’s not enjoying movies and her mothers hug. In a few months, she’ll be old enough not to pull tubes out; that’s a stupid reason to remove support.

I’m fine with removing life support when there is no brain function. This case, there seems to be a normal baby in there. This hospital has no right. Only the mother does. They said they called 20 hospitals. How many are there in TX? In the US? Did they call any of the places that keep others alive who need support, any care homes? There are places like nursing homes for people who need ventilator support.

Jahi McMath, who was actually dead, really dead, unrevivable, no brain waves at all was released to her mother with breathing support and nursing care. That was very wrong, but don’t go overboard and kill a child who is all there.

Is it her skin color?

Terminally ill people can live much longer than people think. I know a person with a prognosis of two years who is on year ten. Yes, she suffers pain but said she’d rather be alive. Jimmy Carter, an old man, should be dead but he got a just developed medication that’s a game changer. Alex Trebeck should be gone by now. Steve Jobs died, but he lived years longer than he should. People with CF rarely made it to their teens 20 years ago. And now they routinely make it to 30s and beyond. And, AIDs killed everybody in the 80s, and now here in the developed world it doesn’t. People born with small holes in their hearts 50 years ago all died, and now repairing it is a routine, beginner operation.

Unless the brain is gone, that kid deserves a chance and I hope somebody helps mom. There is no telling what will be in 510 years, and if not, lots of people live on vents. Like Stephen Hawking. She can make her own choice when she’s older.

Anybody with a friend or family member with a deadly disease should stay out of Texas. Just because a person is terminal, or even experiences pain, doesn’t mean they want to die.

I am not pro-life or religious. But I do know terminal people who have cost insurance companies a lot, and those companies would be happy to say they were suffering too much to continue and encourage doctors to pull the plug. I’ve become cynical, and my opinion on this has evolved over the years. I’m sure few will agree with me though, but I hope nobody ever finds out

TL;dr
brain-bye bye.
heart-hang in there.

 

[MiniMuffin]

Tinslee should be in a place where they keep patients who need life support but are not actively dying. There are such places and I wonder why this hospital is so eager to remove it all and let her die.

She isn’t stable enough to go to a long term care facility. Here’s a quote a hospital doctor told Buzzfeed News: “Even with medication and support, Tinslee has 'dying events' 2–3 times per day. When she is in distress, Tinslee crashes and aggressive medical intervention is immediately necessary, which causes even more pain.”

Long-term care facilities don’t look after patients until they’re medically stable, and she isn’t.

 

[Non-Expert!]

The problem is that unless the patient or her family were to sign a release to allow the hospital to talk publicly about this woman’s case, they can’t say ANYTHING. People can make up outrageous lies about things that were supposedly said or done in hospitals and because of patient privacy laws there’s nothing the hospital can say or do to contradict them.

And the outlets that put out articles like these don’t usually ask for a release that would allow the hospital to talk to journalists or release medical records to journalists. They just go by what the family says.

That’s why misleading stories like these keep popping up over and over.

So what is your position, exactly?

Are you saying that they should have pulled the plug?

 

[MiniMuffin]

I’m glad Kertisha Brabson recovered, of course. My point in bringing up that case is not to take a position on her care but to point out that news outlets REGULARLY publish misleading articles about “brain dead” patients waking up and sometimes making full recoveries when in fact those patients were never diagnosed as brain dead in the first place. This misleads the general public into thinking brain death is something that’s commonly misdiagnosed (it isn’t) and/or something it’s possible to recover from (it’s not).

 

[sperginity]

but this child has a functioning, normal brain.

at the start, sure. Now? No. She has been sedated almost her entire life, the brain changes that happen as babies grow only happen in response to stimulus. She can't experience stimulus under heavy sedation. Heavy sedation of an infant is something parents tend not to allow unless their child is in obvious pain, and it isn't like the parents are shy about telling the hospital to fuck off.

I don't know how she couldn't be in pain, being cared for intensively in the hospital entails getting poked up and sore as the absolute best case scenario. Being hooked up to a vent is uncomfortable as hell, ask anyone who has been on one before. It is either pull support now or wait for a germ to eat her up from the inside through one of the tubes going into her body.

 

[Jungle Princess]

#wakeupolive: Christian megachurch prays for resurrection of two-year-old girl

‘Her time here is not done’: A Californian couple is using social media to ask the world to pray for the resurrection of their daughter, Olive Alayne

nationalpost.com

In “different kind of fucked up” news of the day, this baby died on the 14th and her parents and church have started a movement for people to pray for her resurrection. Thousands of people are playing into this. They have also made a GoFundMe for $100,000 and have raised over $50K so far. This story is fucking insane.

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I'm getting strong Pet Sematary vibes.

 

[Dysnomia]

Now I might be a filthy cafeteria papist but isn't the whole pray for a little girl's resurrection blasphemy? Because it sure sounds like it would fit nicely in there with no false prophets that Christians are supposed to abhor and the preacher does sound like a false prophet of sorts that's scamming his congregation. Then again evangelists tend to be the most ass backwards hypocritical group of Christians I came across.

I am wondering if this is going to become a trend now. There's a special place in Hell for people who give false hope like this. You can say that you would have to be complelete brain dead to believe the dead can be risen with prayer. But there are people out thre so broken by a loved one's death that they may buy into this while in a very bad state.

#wakeupolive: Christian megachurch prays for resurrection of two-year-old girl

‘Her time here is not done’: A Californian couple is using social media to ask the world to pray for the resurrection of their daughter, Olive Alayne

nationalpost.com

In “different kind of fucked up” news of the day, this baby died on the 14th and her parents and church have started a movement for people to pray for her resurrection. Thousands of people are playing into this. They have also made a GoFundMe for $100,000 and have raised over $50K so far. This story is fucking insane.

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The congregation seems like a bunch of lunatics. Your kid isn't Jesus. She didn't die for our sins. It's very sad. But she will not be ressurected.

This is so bizarre too. Because these crazy fundie types usually rave about how the departed have finally gone home to Jesus because it was God's plan. So are the parents saying they have a better plan than the one God laid out? Sounds blasphemous to me.