A Final Solution to the Wiki Question

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For making long threads accessible, Google Trends offers a possible UI solution.

Posts spike around important events. Display a timeline that shows the spikes. Allow users to click to see important posts from that period.

This would give users a way to pick up on the highlights. For bonus points, add a small icon in the timeline for every post that includes a dox. That's what we're really here to see.
 
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Null said:
You should already be seeing the new highlighting preference and it should include horrifically bad posts. It won't be drastic but I'm hoping it'll be more entertaining than just "good" posts.
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I mean i was already speedreading threads by looking for big stacks of reactions... seems kinda pointless.
 
The forum medium can be really annoying in general. Pretty much the only threads where I can catch up on a lolcow I don't already know much about are the ones where the OP has autistically kept updating the OP. Not too realistic at the moment, seeing as we are in a bit of a mod shortage, but I think it would be ideal if you could have moderators whose job it is to actually help keep things presented in an organized manner, instead of just janny'ing up arguments. Such, as maybe giving them the ability to either add things to the original post, or be able to make a post that either goes directly below the OP, or becomes the OP (while still maybe giving credit to the original user posting) wherein they can give a basic rundown of events for a particular lolcow.

Or would this get rid of your ability to just say "Oh, a USER posted that, I had NO IDEA that any of that was on MY website!"?
 
Ideas:

1. Just pay people
2. Give them internships and use the article as "job experience" on the resumé or portfolio
3. Pay an editor to put the thread posts into a template, which should not be research paper-level writing and should be cheaper than 1.
4. Invade Wikipedia until some of them read here and write on Cowipedia of their own volition
5. Relax your standards and don't expect everything to be compiled in a final format quickly
6. Make a template for converting posts into article sections, have a bot fill it in, and have a human tweak it
 
I feel like there should be an option for other people to submit edits to OP, and then there should be like a poll for people to vote on it.
 
Sorlock said:
2. Give them internships and use the article as "job experience" on the resumé or portfolio
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putting "Kiwi Farms poster, curator & writer" on a resumé or portfolio is gonna torpedo your job prospects LMAO
This is up there with thinking MMO raid leader/guild officer is valid experience for an office leadership position
 
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Coleslaw said:
Why not just use MediaWiki. Give active editors a "Wiki Farmer" tag or some extra trophy points or something.
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Quoting myself:

Solution 1 is the most obvious, and it's adding Wikis to the KF. The concern is that centralizing the site so heavily may be a detriment to our ability to escape censorship. The upside is that it makes the site immediately more valuable to readers directly and may cause 3rd party links.

Solution 2 is bringing back the wiki. This breaks centralizing, for better and for worse. The Wiki can show up where the KF cannot, but can link back to KF. The downside is, existing KF audience has to move to the wiki to see things they want to see on the site.

Solution 3 is the most obtuse but perhaps the most valuable. Instead of having a single website complement, the best threads can be made into static exposes on their own domains (a la yaniv's). This makes these websites much more linkable, much harder to censor, and can link back to the KF. This carries the complications of Solution 2 and is harder to get people to volunteer for, but is probably the most effective in terms of getting the message out.

There's really serious pros and cons to each. A non-solution is anything duplicating content. You can't just do 2, have that wiki content appear on KF directly, and then also make wiki articles into static websites for 3. That hurts the SEO of all the sites.
 
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If it hasn't been suggested yet, would it be possible to show only highlighted comments when going through a thread? As it is now, it's easy to see highlighted threads with useful information, but you still have to go through the thread which can be incredibly tedious with some of the bigger 1000+ pages threads.

Maybe make it so you click on the "Highlight" indicator and it takes you to a version of the thread with only highlighted comments that still allows you to click through to quotes posts.
 
Marvin said:
@Null Is there a repo for this? Idk if I want to commit 100% to contributing to this, but even just taking a look is a step in the right direction.
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Register on https://git.kiwifarms.net and PM me. I'll put some of my code up for people interested.

Pizza Time said:
If it hasn't been suggested yet, would it be possible to show only highlighted comments when going through a thread?
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Consider reading this thread before asking if something has been suggested. At the very least, read any of the 3 posts highlighted in the notice.
 
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I've done this CSS tweak for post highlights. Load it up as a userstyle and say if it's any good or not, and what could be improved. One quick idea would be making it 1 pixel thick, to make it more subtle, yet not too subtle like the little highlight indicator.

CSS: 
.block--messages .message.hb-react-threadHighlight {
    border: 2px solid #6ba65e;
}

EDIT: As an alternative, a similar effect done using box-shadow, which gives a small highlight without pressing the post's content, as it happens with borders.

CSS: 
.block--messages .message.hb-react-threadHighlight {
    border-top: none;
    box-shadow: #6ba65e 1px 1px,
        #6ba65e 1px -1px,
        #6ba65e -1px 1px,
        #6ba65e -1px -1px;
}
 
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I'm not sure if this has been brought up, but if we're going to be collating posts from the Farms into one big Wiki, it may be handy to include a dictionary of Kiwi Farms phrases (like "troon" and "lolcow") to help normies understand what we're saying, on the off-chance the Wiki is accessed by a normie.
 
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Sexy Senior Citizen said:
I'm not sure if this has been brought up, but if we're going to be collating posts from the Farms into one big Wiki, it may be handy to include a dictionary of Kiwi Farms phrases (like "troon" and "lolcow") to help normies understand what we're saying, on the off-chance the Wiki is accessed by a normie.
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This is not The Way™. If folks can't do a little bit of searching on site/googling, or suss our the general meaning in context, they're not going to also obsess over the personal details of creepy weirdos on the internet and the minutae of their life.
 
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Haramburger said:
This is not The Way™. If folks can't do a little bit of searching on site/googling, or suss our the general meaning in context, they're not going to also obsess over the personal details of creepy weirdos on the internet and the minutae of their life.
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At the very least, then, there should be a "Don't Poke the Cows" warning on the front page. If we have to follow the Prime Directive, they should to.
 
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Sorlock said:
1. Just pay people
2. Give them internships and use the article as "job experience" on the resumé or portfolio
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Hahaha. Thank you! I'm having a shit morning and needed some cheering up.

Where are they applying for a job? 4chan?
 
Sorlock said:
Ideas:

1. Just pay people
2. Give them internships and use the article as "job experience" on the resumé or portfolio
3. Pay an editor to put the thread posts into a template, which should not be research paper-level writing and should be cheaper than 1.
4. Invade Wikipedia until some of them read here and write on Cowipedia of their own volition
5. Relax your standards and don't expect everything to be compiled in a final format quickly
6. Make a template for converting posts into article sections, have a bot fill it in, and have a human tweak it
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#6 makes sense. As far as anything involving money, this place already costs a fortune to run and I would not expect Null to shell out even more. A dude's gotta eat.
 
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