Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

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its because they fucked up and made homosexuality a mental disorder a long time ago, activists worked to get it removed from the DSM, this was after lots of research showed that distress isn't an inherent part of being gay. The mistake is embarrassing to psychological professionals, who now defer to the LGBTQ activists to avoid making the same mistake again. It is a lot like how LGBT rights groups are uncritically accepted because of the shift in cultural attitudes about gay marriage, people are embarassed to have been on "the wrong side of history", but it doesn't seem to cross their minds that it is totally possible for a group to be correct about one thing and incorrect about another.

This describes the current political climate in a nutshell.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

jazz needs to get somewhere away from all of these enablers and pushers and just go spend a year in private and figure out who the hell he is and stop with the fantasy female bullshit. .

He can't do that. He can't survive on his own, never.

So which is it jeanette? You deny jazz the right to tell the truth about the pain, misery and doubts that she is experiencing..... but then you spout bs about jazz" living in her truth".

Silly rabbit. When Jeanette talks about her truth, she means HER truth.

Am I the only one seeing this shit? Does having multiple mutilation surgeries completely drain the life out of your face and leave you a permanent pale-faced husk?

I had a surgery relatively recent and despite it was a minor thing, yes, I came back home looking like I was punched in the face. Two years ago, husband dislocated his arm and we took him to the hospital to get it put in place. Again, he looked like he came back from war. Now, imagine this kid who's had surgeries that are waaaaay worse than these.

It's not about being brave or not. Big changes in the body so quick do have consequences. Get sick and have diarrea for more than two days and see how your face changes until you feel better again.

he binges because of emotional problems. there are a few seconds of him wolfing down fast food in a car on the season 6 preview linked earlier in the thread.

Kinda cruel to show this aspect of his life. Either it's enacting or actual footage, it's cruel.

Although, it'd be crueler if it was enacted:

"Jazz, remember how you hid those three burgers last night in your bedroom to eat them alone?"

"What? How did you find out ab--"

"Could you do this again, but now, for the camera? And act as though we aren't seeing you...".

 

[NoReturn]

can you imagine if we gave schizophrenic people the treatment we give gender dysphoria?

" Ok mr smith, you believe there is a radio implanted in your head and that you are being followed by squirrels on skateboards? "
Then the doc validates them by scheduling radio implantation surgery and writes a script to hire squirrels on skateboards follow the person.

Thing is, if the schizophrenic patient in question could live a normal live with minor validation, it might actually work. I read an article once where the tribe being studied addressed mental illness by acknowledging the crazy, but not putting up with the bullshit that comes with it.
"Oh you're seeing flying snakes? That's great, means you're a shaman. We still have to go hunting, though, so you good? Good. Let's go."

 

[sperginity]

Kinda cruel to show this aspect of his life. Either it's enacting or actual footage, it's cruel.

Although, it'd be crueler if it was enacted:

"Jazz, remember how you hid those three burgers last night in your bedroom to eat them alone?"

"What? How did you find out ab--"

"Could you do this again, but now, for the camera? And act as though we aren't seeing you...".

nah he was in a car, foodie beauty style

i suspect the car is the only place that he can get away from his mom's bitching about his diet

 

[Tasty Tatty]

That's why many transgenders used to, first, being required to dress and act as the opposite sex before making any permanent change, even as simple as changing your gender in your ID or your name. It was society's way to say "so, you wanna be a woman? Fine. Act like one for a year and then, we can speak about it for real".

It's not even that insulting considering certain cultures even encouraged that in couples who wanted to get married: "ok, live together for some time, and if you still like each other, get married!".

Woke people don't want to acknowledge that, while many people definitely would benefit from just being treated like the opposite sex, some are frauds or very guilible people who aren't yet sure about what they want and are easily fooled by charlatans.

 

[Honest Coyote]

If you're a man getting a designer stink ditch, the surgeon can tell you exactly how long they can make it, apparently. Jazz was told hers was expected to be 7 inches in depth or whatever with the material available and bragged about it, then engaged female members of his family in a bizarre conversation about 'average vagina length' to see if he matched up. Not only does that sound like a simple analogue of the male obsession with dick size, but:

There are many differences between a troon stink ditch and an actual vagina and one of them is the real thing expands lengthwise as well as self-lubricates when the woman experiences sexual desire. Depending on your state of arousal, your vaginal passage can be longer or shorter at any one time. So women cannot - even if there were an easy way to measure it - engage in competitive vag measuring activity even if they wanted to.

TL;DR Yes, he did and he was acting like a typical male when he did it.

Would different depth even mean anything, outside of extreme outliers like can't even be penetrated because it's too shallow? With a penis, there's the idea that more equals more pleasure. I don't think that would work with a vagina, because the man is going as deep as his penis, no matter how much deep it goes.

 

[vertexwindi]

Would different depth even mean anything

Some positions like cow girl can get a bit painful when you've got a shallow vagina. It's not something I could see being a problem for fake vaginas, though, because I don't think those could ever actually go through sex without exploding honestly.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Whatever problem you and your partner have about sex, it's between you and her or him. If there is any inevitable problem, like having a shallow vagina, they you both can work in the best solution so both can enjoy sex. It's called love and understanding.

Considering everybody knows who Jazz is and that he is obviously trans, any kind of sex he expected to have would have to be first a topic of conversation between him and his partners. "Hey, I cannot do this position because it's uncomfortable for me, you know, I'm not that deep", blah blah. Things that anybody with a brain can understand would happen to a trans-person. This kind of "I wanna have a vagina that is fit for every size!" attitude only speaks of his naivety about sex.

Which begs the question: why didn't the surgeon explain him this beforehand? If the doctor is a genital surgeon, he should have known very well, what kind of problems vaginas have or not. When you have a surgery, a doctor is obligated to inform you about all the limitations you will have after the procedure.

 

[The Pink Panther]

new "I Am Jazz" trailer

^ Oh my gosh the new season is breaking my heart, especially the end where he's experiencing surgical complications. There is WAYYYY to much pressure on this child. What were they thinking, he was just going to go through major league surgery and walk three miles a day around cambridge? Jazz, free yourself.

The thumbnail of Jazz crying is where I can finally see the inner dude.

 

[Muttnik]

Another thing from the video--Jazz says that the combination of graduating virtual high school, preparing for college, and putting together a freaky drag show are the things setting him off with all the stress.

These three things combined should not be the thing to send him into a groaning, anguished breakdown. It's hectic, yes, but it's not something you should be panicking over to the point of emotional exhaustion. Regular everyday people juggle work, family life, shopping for food, paying bills, etc. all within the span of a single day during a normal week. If Jazz can't deal with simple, normal life events then how is he supposed to function at all without turning into a cave-dwelling antisocial Gollum that can't walk outside without shrieking?

It's all bullshit. Jazz is reeling either because he knows that he's not smart enough for Harvard or because he made a critical lifelong mistake that will forever impede his ability to connect with others on a romantic and sexual level.

 

[The Pink Panther]

It probably smells like human meat and sepsis.

So chicken?

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Another thing from the video--Jazz says that the combination of graduating virtual high school, preparing for college, and putting together a freaky drag show are the things setting him off with all the stress.

These three things combined should not be the thing to send him into a groaning, anguished breakdown. It's hectic, yes, but it's not something you should be panicking over to the point of emotional exhaustion. Regular everyday people juggle work, family life, shopping for food, paying bills, etc. all within the span of a single day during a normal week. If Jazz can't deal with simple, normal life events then how is he supposed to function at all without turning into a cave-dwelling antisocial Gollum that can't walk outside without shrieking?

It's all bullshit. Jazz is reeling either because he knows that he's not smart enough for Harvard or because he made a critical lifelong mistake that will forever impede his ability to connect with others on a romantic and sexual level.

You're' not wrong, but Jazz's someone who's been pampered and spoiled his whole life. People like this can't function in the real world when they have to take normal obligations.

Also, in the video (and I think this isn't an exaggeration), they're saying what makes him crack is that the drag show isn't going in the way HE WANTED IT. He's not losing it because hard things happen (I'm sure most things he does, he doesn't do it himself but has people doing it and he just orders them around) but because things aren't going as planned.

 

[Strong Tomato]

Is Jazz on any kind of anti depressants or anxiety medications? Excuse me if that's an exceptional question but I don't recall it being mentioned anywhere. I don't really think meds can help too much with all the shit he has to put up with but maybe it would help some, because he looks like he's close to rock bottom at this point. The way his parents acted about the eating disorder, from what I saw in the show, I feel like they wouldn't even bother putting him on those meds or seeing an actual therapist. Just send him to the hypnotherapist like idiots.

 

[IBrokeBob]

Jazz did blame some of his weight gain on the fact that hes driving now and can go eat fast food whenever he likes. But that sure makes me think of Foodie Beauty and her many mukbangs filmed in her car.

As for him having a meltdown over a show not going perfectly, well that is ridiculous. Thats what happens when shows are live ( and probably poorly planned and not rehearsed and full of amateurs). Sometimes the glitches and how the performers recover or ad lib is part of the fun of it. But as the old saying says " the show must go on".

I dont buy the excuse that jazz was having a hectic life with high school senior year, preparing for college and doing the drag show.

It was online high school which can be done at his own pace. He didnt have to go to school 5 days a week like other kids. Its not like he was in sports, had projects to do and had senior events to attend.

We know dang well someone filled out all of the college apps for jazz so that doesnt seem too strenuous either. As for the drag show, that is all on him because he volunteered for it and set high expectations ( to raise $15000 for his friends transition).

None of this bodes well for jazz ever becoming an independent or well adjusted person. He was never Harvard material. But we kinda already knew that anyway.

Is Jazz on any kind of anti depressants or anxiety medications? Excuse me if that's an exceptional question but I don't recall it being mentioned anywhere. I don't really think meds can help too much with all the shit he has to put up with but maybe it would help some, because he looks like he's close to rock bottom at this point. The way his parents acted about the eating disorder, from what I saw in the show, I feel like they wouldn't even bother putting him on those meds or seeing an actual therapist. Just send him to the hypnotherapist like idiots.

He was diagnosed with depression in 6th grade and was on meds for it back in 2016. I would assume he is still on them. This is a transcript from 2016 discussing it and also illustrating how jazz is nowhere near being responsible and independent when it comes to taking care of himself.:

Jazz: Oh, I’m out of medicine.

Mom (to Jazz): What? You’re out of it? Which medicine are you out of?

Jazz: The happy pills. I just took the last ones.

Mom (to camera): To complicate matters more, in 6th grade Jazz was diagnosed with clinical depression and she was put on antidepressants. The medication does a good job of managing Jazz’s moods. But, with depression, it’s always there, and there are times when she is struggling.

Mom (to Jazz): I’ve got to call these (medication refills) into the doctor ASAP.

* Notice how jazz expects his mother to do it and in a hurry too, just because jazz is to immature to be responsible for himself to take care of it himself

 

[Strong Tomato]

sorry for the double post


He was diagnosed with depression in 6th grade and was on meds for it back in 2016. I would assume he is still on them. This is a transcript from 2016 discussing it and also illustrating how jazz is nowhere near being responsible and independent when it comes to taking care of himself.:

Jazz: Oh, I’m out of medicine.

Mom (to Jazz): What? You’re out of it? Which medicine are you out of?

Jazz: The happy pills. I just took the last ones.

Mom (to camera): To complicate matters more, in 6th grade Jazz was diagnosed with clinical depression and she was put on antidepressants. The medication does a good job of managing Jazz’s moods. But, with depression, it’s always there, and there are times when she is struggling.

Mom (to Jazz): I’ve got to call these (medication refills) into the doctor ASAP.

This must have been mentioned in one of the seasons I kind of skipped over. Thanks for the info. Guess the meds just can't do much anymore, which is understandable.

 

[Muttnik]

There are trillions of people all over the world suffering from depression. Hell, I've had more than my fair share of it during my lifetime, and on the severe clinical levels. But your weaknesses are not your crutch in life. If you know that you're prone to emotional instability, you need to strive for things to keep you active, healthy, and distracted from the things setting you off, and all without slacking off and shutting yourself up in your room without human contact.

The worst thing you could possibly do is let your inner demons rule you. Now, it's completely and perfectly understandable for Jazz to be severely depressed over his wound, but there is no way in hell he or any of his shills would ever admit that to the media. But with that said, Jazz can still find things to occupy his time without succumbing to his negative emotions. It's a hard and challenging journey but I've seen severely suicidal people climb their way out of the abyss, people with far worse problems than Jazz has now even with the botched surgeries. Anything is possible with a little bit of hope.

.....But there's no hope for Jazz. Not as long as he lives in a fantasy bubble surrounded by Jeanette and all the nasty little mosquitoes buzzing in his ear and fueling his delusions without offering productive alternatives to try to live a happier lifestyle.

 

[IBrokeBob]

There are trillions of people all over the world suffering from depression. Hell, I've had more than my fair share of it during my lifetime, and on the severe clinical levels. But your weaknesses are not your crutch in life. If you know that you're prone to emotional instability, you need to strive for things to keep you active, healthy, and distracted from the things setting you off, and all without slacking off and shutting yourself up in your room without human contact.

The worst thing you could possibly do is let your inner demons rule you. Now, it's completely and perfectly understandable for Jazz to be severely depressed over his wound, but there is no way in hell he or any of his shills would ever admit that to the media. But with that said, Jazz can still find things to occupy his time without succumbing to his negative emotions. It's a hard and challenging journey but I've seen severely suicidal people climb their way out of the abyss, people with far worse problems than Jazz has now even with the botched surgeries. Anything is possible with a little bit of hope.

.....But there's no hope for Jazz. Not as long as he lives in a fantasy bubble surrounded by Jeanette and all the nasty little mosquitoes buzzing in his ear and fueling his delusions without offering productive alternatives to try to live a happier lifestyle.

im sure jazz thought his depression would magically go away once he had surgery. After all, surgery is a cure for the trans problems!

Now he is still depressed and has even more new things to be depressed and disappointed about including scars and physical alterations to his body and there really is no going back from the damage that has been done.

I wonder if the depression is also related to some amount of regret or realization that he has been manipulated like a puppet for other to profit from and get publicity for themselves.

 

[sperginity]

im sure jazz thought his depression would magically go away once he had surgery. After all, surgery is a cure for the trans problems!

Now he is still depressed and has even more new things to be depressed and disappointed about including scars and physical alterations to his body and there really is no going back from the damage that has been done.

I wonder if the depression is also related to some amount of regret or realization that he has been manipulated like a puppet for other to profit from and get publicity for themselves.

depression is a known side effect of puberty blocking drugs. It is hard to parse out what caused the depression in any person who is also going through a lot of shit in their lives though, in those cases it isn't like they really have depression, they have problems. Unfortunately jazz's problems aren't really fixable so he might as well just take the drugs forever.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

im sure jazz thought his depression would magically go away once he had surgery. After all, surgery is a cure for the trans problems!

That's typical for troons. In looney troon land genital multilation magically solves your problems & makes u a real woman/man.

But the problem IS IN THE BRAIN and gender issues are a SYMPTOM of it, not the cause. Multilating your lover half doesn't do anything and very often worsens your mental issues.

 

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Some positions like cow girl can get a bit painful when you've got a shallow vagina. It's not something I could see being a problem for fake vaginas, though, because I don't think those could ever actually go through sex without exploding honestly.

If you browse reddit there are stories of guys having sex with post srs troons. Apparently it doesn't feel that great, there is no muscle or stretch so it's almost too tight. Some have even said the texture of the neovagina is off putting as well.