War Iran-United States Military Crisis of 2020 - US Baghdad embassy under siege, rocket fire in US Baghdad green zone, Ukrainian Airlines flight 752 crash, and more!

January 10th:
Exclusive: Informants in Iraq, Syria helped U.S. kill Iran's Soleimani - sources (archive)(post)
Iraqi Shia cleric whose militia killed American troops says crisis is over following Iran strike and Trump speech (archive)(post)
Iraqi PM tells US to decide mechanism for troop withdrawal (archive)(post)
Mike Pence says Congress might 'compromise sources and methods' if fully briefed on the Soleimani strike (archive)(post)
Unidentified planes hit Iraqi militiamen in Syria, killing 8 (archive)(post)
Iraq: The Master Of Mayhem Meets A Missile (archive)(post)
Eliminating Qasem Soleimani was Donald Trump’s Middle East farewell letter (archive)(post)
Iran uses BULLDOZERS to clear debris from plane crash site while accusing US of ‘big lie’ that they shot it down (archive)(post)
Swiss Back Channel Helped Defuse U.S.-Iran Crisis (post)

January 11th:
UKRAINIAN AIRCRAFT WAS BROUGHT DOWN IN IRAN DUE TO 'HUMAN ERROR' (archive)(post)
Iran minister says 'human error' caused by 'US adventurism' led to deadly crash of Ukrainian jetliner (archive)(post)
Ukrainian aircraft was brought down in Iran due to 'human error' (archive)(post)
Trump, at Ohio rally, says Democrats would have leaked Soleimani attack plans (archive)(post)
The Atlantic's David Frum blames Trump for downing of plane in Iran, deaths of 176 (archive)(post)
Associated Press changes ‘shockingly bad’ headline about Soleimani, Ukrainian plane crash after backlash (archive)(post)
GOP Rep. Doug Collins apologizes for saying Democrats are 'in love with terrorists' (archive)(post)
Iran demands West 'show findings' as new video reveals aircraft was struck before fiery crash (archive)(post)
Warren town hall interrupted by angry protester accusing her of ‘siding with terrorists’ (archive)(post)
Trump administration announces new sanctions on Iran (archive)(post)
Prepare For the Worst From Iran Cyber Attacks, As DHS Issues Warning: Experts (archive)(post)
Trump tells Fox News' Laura Ingraham 'four embassies' were targeted in imminent threat from Iran (archive)(post)
Trump tweets support for Iranian protesters as they demand Khamenei quit (archive)(post)
Trump warns Iran against ‘another massacre’ as protests flare over downed jet (archive)(post)

January 12th:
Trump tweet in Farsi 'the most liked Persian tweet' in history of Twitter (archive)(post)
Iraq warned to keep US troops or risk financial blow-WSJ (archive)(post)
Iran arrests UK ambassador in what Britain calls ‘flagrant violation of international law’ (archive)(post)

January 13th:
Trump authorized Soleimani's killing 7 months ago, with conditions (archive)(post)

edit: This is a WIP. All links are posted in the order they appear in the thread, not in chronological order of their publication.


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Iraqi supporters of Iran-backed militia attack US Embassy
https://apnews.com/75228a8a607a44863b57021ac33264dc (http://archive.vn/ljm9Y)

By QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA12 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AP) — Dozens of angry Iraqi Shiite militia supporters broke into the U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad on Tuesday after smashing a main door and setting fire to a reception area, prompting tear gas and sounds of gunfire.

An Associated Press reporter at the scene saw flames rising from inside the compound and at least three U.S. soldiers on the roof of the main building inside embassy. It was not clear what caused the fire at the reception area near the parking lot of the compound. A man on a loudspeaker urged the mob not to enter the compound, saying: “The message was delivered.”

The embassy attack followed deadly U.S. airstrikes on Sunday that killed 25 fighters of the Iran-backed militia in Iraq, the Kataeb Hezbollah. The U.S. military said it was in retaliation for last week’s killing of an American contractor in a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base that it had blamed on the militia.

Dozens of protesters marched inside the compound after smashing the gate used by cars to enter the embassy. The protesters, many in militia uniform, stopped in a corridor after about 5 meters (16 feet), and were only about 200 meters away from the main building. Half a dozen U.S. soldiers were seen on the roof of the main building, their guns were pointed at the protesters.

Smoke from the tear gas rose in the area, and at least three of the protesters appeared to have difficulties breathing. It wasn’t immediately known whether the embassy staff had remained inside the main building.

The protesters hanged a poster on the wall: “America is an aggressor.”

Shouting “Down, Down USA,” the crowd tried to push inside the embassy grounds, hurling water and stones over its walls. They raised yellow militia flags and taunted the embassy’s security staff who remained behind the glass windows in the gates’ reception area. They sprayed graffiti on the wall and windows in red in support of the Kataeb Hezbollah militia: “Closed in the name of the resistance.”

Hundreds of angry protesters, some in militia uniforms, set up tents outside the embassy. As tempers rose, the mob set fire to three trailers used by security guards along the embassy wall.

No one was immediately reported hurt in the rampage and security staff had withdrawn to inside the embassy earlier, soon after protesters gathered outside.

The U.S. attack — the largest targeting an Iraqi state-sanctioned militia in recent years — and the subsequent calls by the militia for retaliation, represent a new escalation in the proxy war between the U.S. and Iran playing out in the Middle East.

Tuesday’s attempted embassy storming took place after mourners and supporters held funerals for the militia fighters killed in a Baghdad neighborhood, after which they marched on to the heavily fortified Green Zone and kept walking till they reached the sprawling U.S. Embassy there.

AP journalists then saw the crowd as they tried to scale the walls of the embassy, in what appeared to be an attempt to storm it, shouting “Down, down USA!” and “Death to America” and “Death to Israel.”

U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday’s strikes send the message that the U.S. will not tolerate actions by Iran that jeopardize American lives.

The Iranian-backed Iraqi militia had vowed Monday to retaliate for the U.S. military strikes. The attack and vows for revenge raised concerns of new attacks that could threaten American interests in the region.

The U.S. attack also outraged both the militias and the Iraqi government, which said it will reconsider its relationship with the U.S.-led coalition — the first time it has said it will do so since an agreement was struck to keep some U.S. troops in the country. It called the attack a “flagrant violation” of its sovereignty.

In a partly televised meeting Monday, Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi told Cabinet members that he had tried to stop the U.S. operation “but there was insistence” from American officials.

The U.S. military said “precision defensive strikes” were conducted against five sites of Kataeb Hezbollah, or Hezbollah Brigades in Iraq and Syria. The group, which is a separate force from the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, operates under the umbrella of the state-sanctioned militias known collectively as the Popular Mobilization Forces. Many of them are supported by Iran.









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That's part of an active burn-pit and landfill area; the revetment-type structure is one of the first I looked at and eliminated.

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The ADA & SAM sites I found are much smaller and don't show vehicles, but are close to ordnance-type bunkers, with openings large enough for loaded Tor or S-300 launcher.

Currently my bandwidth is sucking ass, will update later.
From what I've seen it's not really all that uncommon for Mideast armies to put military assets right next to civilian facilities, so I don't think it should be ruled out.

Is this the radar installation you're talking about btw?

 
So this happened. Apparently the house is shit for brains enough to think they can stop trump from acting in accordance with his legal rights as commander in chief of the armed forces



Fuck it. Non-binding resolution. Just as dumb as dirt. First, when a decision needs to be made quickly there may not be time to consult anyone in Congress. Shit happens 24/7/365. Can you imagine trying to contact Congress in case ICBMs were coming in? Please. Second, if this had happened under a Democratic Administration there wouldn't have been a whimper from this House.

What will it take for the Democrats to put country before party? Soleimani was responsible for the deaths of a number of American service members. He apparently planned the embassy attack. Then the fuck had the sheer gall to come to Baghdad, knowing the Americans wouldn't do anything, in order to plan even more attacks. Happily, this cocksucker got waxed and is roasting in hell.

Wrong is not right. Wrong never will be right, no matter how much or how hard the Dems and MSM try to tell people wrong is right. President Trump's not perfect but it sure does look like he knows what he's doing here. And the Dems not only will not give him a scintilla of credit, they excoriate him at every turn. The American people see this. It is THEIR sons and daughters who are downrange, who have been killed and injured due to Iranian machinations. They see President Trump calling these fucks' bluff and assuring them of more to come if needed. Believe they'll remember come November.

Violating airspace? The aircraft was already there and authorized to be there. Also, it was most likely a Tor missile system.

The shootdown was a mistake, or something made to look like one.

This debacle shows a lot of problems in Iranian air defense. If I was Khamenei I would not sleep real well, knowing the state of not just Tehran's air defense, but Iranian air defense overall.
 
Very interesting. It's likely the Iranian state shot down the plane for violating airspace since multiple military installations are around that area.
I don't think its restricted airspace. There are planes flying that path or right near it if you look at
Basically every plane that takes off from IKA flys near that area and sometimes right over it.
 

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So they basically are supporting terrorism with this. I don't care if they say they don't, if this affects the US's efforts, then they're as much of the problem as Iran is.
It’s an idiotic move, practical/legal impact aside.

It looks pointless at best and completely fucking unhinged at worst. Trump gave a cautious and measured response a little over 24 hours ago and they’re still acting like he’s some frothing dictator. People who have bought into that lie won’t be convinced either way, but people in the center will see this as petty. That effect is aggravated by the fact that there is still actually fucking danger right now and the House Democrats are sending the message that they’re more interested in political posturing than they are in working together for the sake of the country’s security.

The average onlooker sees Trump trying to solve shit, while Pelosi is scrambling to just fuck over Trump.
 
The worst part is Buttigieg served as a Naval "intelligence" officer in Afghanistan.

My understanding of Buttigieg's service is that he was attached to a logistics unit whose job was to play Brewster's Millions and spend money as fast as possible so that they could requisition more money from back home.
 
From what I've seen it's not really all that uncommon for Mideast armies to put military assets right next to civilian facilities, so I don't think it should be ruled out.

Is this the radar installation you're talking about btw?

Correct; to the south of that is the missile-vehicle maintenance/motorpools, and in the also inside the perimeter are launcher-sized wash racks, along with a couple old static test stands/berms near one corner.

Missile systems need to stay clean; even ones in self-contained canisters, and especially if they're new/untested designs.
 
Violating what airspace? They received a flight plan clearance from the overarching Iranian ATC authorities. They were departing from Tehran Imam Khomeini International Airport.

Edit: They didn't deviate from the regular departure route (until they were hit).
Well, let me rephrase that. That being the Iranian SAM siren operators thought I think was violating airspace and becuase they are retarded they shot down the plane.

The only other explanation is if spies against Iran were onboard the plane, which would make a tiny bit more sense
 
Well, let me rephrase that. That being the Iranian SAM siren operators thought I think was violating airspace and becuase they are exceptional they shot down the plane.

The only other explanation is if spies against Iran were onboard the plane, which would make a tiny bit more sense
From what I've read elsewhere, its departure was delayed for around 70 minutes. I reckon that was due to uncertainty about whether or not it was safe to do so. Either way, it took off on course and the Iranians knew about it and where it was going. They will, no doubt, come up with plausible deniability and blame it on someone (probably never identified) with a twitchy finger.
 
From what I've read elsewhere, its departure was delayed for around 70 minutes. I reckon that was due to uncertainty about whether or not it was safe to do so. Either way, it took off on course and the Iranians knew about it and where it was going. They will, no doubt, come up with plausible deniability and blame it on someone (probably never identified) with a twitchy finger.
Well. COuld there have been human error?. Like if the ATC did not hand over the flight plans to the SAM site operator. But then again jet planes emit a frequency to say it is a commercial plane so still they had something sort of indication it was a commercial plane. Nothing point strength to a engine failure.
 
Correct; to the south of that is the missile-vehicle maintenance/motorpools, and in the also inside the perimeter are launcher-sized wash racks, along with a couple old static test stands/berms near one corner.

Missile systems need to stay clean; even ones in self-contained canisters, and especially if they're new/untested designs.
You think they could have been moving them around periodically as a counter-Intel measure? Something like one crew goes out during the day, and sets up somewhere, and then rotates off with another crew that comes out with a different system while the other system is away during its off cycle for maintenance/cleaning?

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Doubt that would be good for them, but I could see it with their paranoia.
 
@mr.moon1488 , @Pocket Dragoon video taken from this location? I've circled the relevant bits.

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Near a row of apartments and construction site, and I can almost make out that street lamp from google maps. Thoughts?

Coordinates: 35.4895843,50.9067565,228
THe article that Sherp cited did figured it out already. So considering this and also everything else we have seen, the plane was shot down fare and square. ALso does Tehran have a ring of AA systems around the city like what the Russians have with Moscow?

ALso a YouTuber named covert cabal has a discord server where there are google docs that have documented all AA and anti ship systems that can be seen in Iran and Syria. I recommend looking at the google doc
 
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The only other explanation is if spies against Iran were onboard the plane, which would make a tiny bit more sense

It makes no sense at all. It's not how the espionage business works. If you know someone on your own side is a spy for another government, you do one of several things:

- quietly arrest , detain them and interrogate them to learn about their activity, contacts and assets
- this will involve torture in Iran
- then you execute them
- or make a huge stink and maybe trade them for one of your guys in the other country's custody and do a spy swap
- or you both get the hump and expel loads of each others' diplomats in a tit for tat, old-school move
- or you turn the spy into a double agent, now delivering useful information to your side
- or you simply watch them, and learn about their networks and contacts
- or you have them killed via assassin, not by doing a mass murder and creating an embarrassing international incident with another nation, also killing 100+ innocents from your own side in the meantime

Anyway, it's moot because we all know this was a colossal, Allah-sized fuck-up by Iran's shit for brains military.
 
Well. COuld there have been human error?
As I said, plausible deniability. I bet they'll blame it on human error. It wasn't the first aircraft to take off.

I just can't see how they couldn't have known it was a commercial flight. This wasn't just an errant blip on the radar, it had just taken off out of the Iranian capital.
 
It makes no sense at all. It's not how the espionage business works. If you know someone on your own side is a spy for another government, you do one of several things:

- quietly arrest , detain them and interrogate them to learn about their activity, contacts and assets
- this will involve torture in Iran
- then you execute them
- or make a huge stink and maybe trade them for one of your guys in the other country's custody and do a spy swap
- or you both get the hump and expel loads of each others' diplomats in a tit for tat, old-school move
- or you turn the spy into a double agent, now delivering useful information to your side
- or you simply watch them, and learn about their networks and contacts
- or you have them killed via assassin, not by doing a mass murder and creating an embarrassing international incident with another nation, also killing 100+ innocents from your own side in the meantime

Anyway, it's moot because we all know this was a colossal, Allah-sized fuck-up by Iran's shit for brains military.
i said that it would make a tiny burn more sense but remember. Iran is very, very retarded and autistic with their military leaders brains the size of a squirrel.

As I said, plausible deniability. I bet they'll blame it on human error. It wasn't the first aircraft to take off.

I just can't see how they couldn't have known it was a commercial flight. This wasn't just an errant blip on the radar, it had just taken off out of the Iranian capital.
Yeah, like i said commercial planes emit a frequency code that Statesboro its a commercial plane, so there's no fuckin Wayne they didn't know. Unless Iran has ATC tech from the 50s
 
I applaud this Florida Kang for using his 2nd amendment rights to stop tyranny.

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A Florida security guard is accused of threatening to kill President Trump in retaliation for a U.S. airstrike that killed Iran’s top military general last Friday.

Chauncy Lump, 26, from the Fort Lauderdale area, faces federal charges of threatening to kill the president and remained jailed Thursday with bond set at $100,000, according to court documents filed Wednesday by the Secret Service.

Agent Lucas White wrote that shortly after Trump announced last week that a U.S. airstrike had killed Qassem Soleimani in Iraq in retaliation for plotting numerous terrorist attacks, Lump, under the name "BlackMan vs. America," began livestreaming a seven-minute video on Facebook.

During that video, agents say Lump made several threats against the president – who was staying at his Mar-a-Lago club, less than an hour away – while periodically displaying a loaded AK-47 semi-automatic rifle.

Lump had white cream on his face, a towel wrapped like a turban on his head, an apparent shower curtain over his body and Middle Eastern music playing in the background, White wrote of the video that Facebook reported to the authorities on Friday.

Lump made several threats against the president, including: "He killed my leader, please tell me where is Donald Trump?" and "I need to find the Donald because if I don't find him, I am going to have to blow up Broward County," White wrote.

The affidavit does not say where Lump works as a security guard, but it says he has a concealed weapons permit.

When confronted early Saturday at his home, Lump said he streamed the video in response to Soleimani's death, but said it was a joke, White wrote. But nowhere in the video did Lump say he was joking and conceded, "I should not have did it in the first place," White wrote.

It wasn’t immediately clear if Lump has an attorney who could comment on his behalf.
 
I applaud this Florida Kang for using his 2nd amendment rights to stop tyranny.

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A Florida security guard is accused of threatening to kill President Trump in retaliation for a U.S. airstrike that killed Iran’s top military general last Friday.

Chauncy Lump, 26, from the Fort Lauderdale area, faces federal charges of threatening to kill the president and remained jailed Thursday with bond set at $100,000, according to court documents filed Wednesday by the Secret Service.

Agent Lucas White wrote that shortly after Trump announced last week that a U.S. airstrike had killed Qassem Soleimani in Iraq in retaliation for plotting numerous terrorist attacks, Lump, under the name "BlackMan vs. America," began livestreaming a seven-minute video on Facebook.

During that video, agents say Lump made several threats against the president – who was staying at his Mar-a-Lago club, less than an hour away – while periodically displaying a loaded AK-47 semi-automatic rifle.

Lump had white cream on his face, a towel wrapped like a turban on his head, an apparent shower curtain over his body and Middle Eastern music playing in the background, White wrote of the video that Facebook reported to the authorities on Friday.

Lump made several threats against the president, including: "He killed my leader, please tell me where is Donald Trump?" and "I need to find the Donald because if I don't find him, I am going to have to blow up Broward County," White wrote.

The affidavit does not say where Lump works as a security guard, but it says he has a concealed weapons permit.

When confronted early Saturday at his home, Lump said he streamed the video in response to Soleimani's death, but said it was a joke, White wrote. But nowhere in the video did Lump say he was joking and conceded, "I should not have did it in the first place," White wrote.

It wasn’t immediately clear if Lump has an attorney who could comment on his behalf.
Yeah, he definitely looks like a Lump.
 
They could just hug it out and sing a song of peace like so:


Well, if Canada wants to handle this, they can. America has no reason to go to war, and Iran dug it's own grave. As far as the US is concerned, we should just leave this to the countries who actually lost citizens over this pathetic attempt at riling the US up, and simply send supply aid and stuff, I.E: not troops. We only go to war over orchestrated false flag attacks nowadays, goddammit! When someone mentions Iran has WMD's out of nowhere, then we'll go over there and shit, ya know? Gotta set it up.
The problem with that is that Canada (as well as Ukraine) are being dragged into Iran's temper tantrum against the US against their will, they weren't prepared for Iran's incompetence killing several of their own people when they were aiming for US bases.

As much as Justin's willing to admit Iran's at fault, and they are, Canada's not going to fight something that America should be dealing with. Ukraine I can probably see taking part since that was their plane Iran crashed, but not Canada.


So they basically are supporting terrorism with this. I don't care if they say they don't, if this affects the US's efforts, then they're as much of the problem as Iran is.

I wonder if Canada's sour relationship with Saudi Arabia and China might play into this.
 
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