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They must be serious. I’m concerned that it’s worse than the Chinese government cares to admit.


Am sure it is.

VERY difficult to put a huge city on "lockdown", especially for long. Okay, shut down airports/train stations/bus stations. Have road checkpoints. But people can slip out on foot, if they want out badly enough. You also have to deal with the impacts on commerce. There will be food/supplies coming into the city, but you'll need to check every outgoing shipment/vehicle/driver. Could be that these cities' garbage is hauled out of the city to landfills, least what some people don't eat, heh, heh. Gotta let the garbage out or the resulting piles of trash will be a great place for rats and any diseases they spread.

In my opinion those who think "escaping" is cute, or who defend "escapers", are idiots. Nobody can be sure this virus won't mutate into a form that takes out younger and healthier people, such as the 1918 Flu. And the "parents" who went on the trip and left their kids at the airport - God help them. But this isn't a trait peculiar to Chinese. Have heard of more than one American single parent or couple who have left for trips lasting days or a week, leaving little kids at home alone. Take a trip and abandon your kids....going to Hell for that, no doubt.

Just emailed CDC asking if Tamiflu is effective against coronavirus. If so, may hit up my doctor for prescriptions for the three of us. Did that in 2009 for the swine flu. Will let you know what I hear.
 
I find it really suspect how the media is treating this virus. At least in my own country the media is trying to stifle panic. This runs very contrary to the previous bird flu and pig flu, where the medical people where really attempting to seem serious. Even SARS didn't cause this big of a quarantine in China. I'm Actually getting to the point that this might be the twenties plague that happens every century, I like to subscribe to the theory "If rich people are worried about it, it's true", so looking at the stock markets,I'm quite worried.

SARS was 17 years ago. China was less together then. I was in a SARS-affected country during that outbreak. It was very odd watching western media report when you're actually sitting in the middle of it. The reporting was histrionic then when in reality everything was quite calm and we were all getting on with life despite the restrictions, and I bear this in mind whenever I watch media to this day. They like to hype up the fear for the story.. Sure this virus is nasty, but I don't think there's cause for global panic yet.
 
SARS was 17 years ago. China was less together then. I was in a SARS-affected country during that outbreak. It was very odd watching western media report when you're actually sitting in the middle of it. The reporting was histrionic then when in reality everything was quite calm and we were all getting on with life despite the restrictions, and I bear this in mind whenever I watch media to this day. They like to hype up the fear for the story.. Sure this virus is nasty, but I don't think there's cause for global panic yet.

Still it doesn't hurt to be cautious after seeing several videos of people collapsed in the street being carried off by quarantine agents while Xi Jinping uses water bombers fiilled with disinfectant aimed at hot zones in the city make me want to at least hope other countries take high levels of caution when dealing with potentially infected individuals.
 
As long as the news is reporting hysterical shit, you're OK. As long as they're reporting on happenings and sports events across the globe, you're OK. As long as the Senate is doing this dumbass impeachment and doing crossword puzzles under the table, you're OK. As long as rich blue checkmarks are whining about OrangeManBad, you're OK.

When your newscaster starts talking about random non-stories, only local news even on the 24 hour news channels, sweating, and glancing off to the side a lot, then you worry.
 
If they are lying about it there is a possibility the area I am in is already getting infected, especially considering how many airports are connected to this fucking city; Almost 2 weeks to incubate is bad news.
Depending on if "suspected" cases are the real deal, if any one case in the U.S. is "real" besides the Seattle area, that flags multiple areas.

The two that are being studied at is Los Angeles from a flight from Mexico City, but the ethnicity is unknown. The other one is in College Station, Texas, with the victim (a college student, looks like) being from Wuhan, which is especially bad news, as the victim had to pass through two major U.S. metropolitan airports (neither Dallas or Houston do direct flights to Wuhan).
 
turns out ebola chan really wasn't our waifu all along

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As long as the news is reporting hysterical shit, you're OK. As long as they're reporting on happenings and sports events across the globe, you're OK. As long as the Senate is doing this dumbass impeachment and doing crossword puzzles under the table, you're OK. As long as rich blue checkmarks are whining about OrangeManBad, you're OK.

When your newscaster starts talking about random non-stories, only local news even on the 24 hour news channels, sweating, and glancing off to the side a lot, then you worry.
I'm going to have to disagree here, alot of people will try their hardest to ignore whats coming, and its not until the power gets cut and tanks are rolling down the street that the reality of the situation hits them. Just look at the siege of Sarajevo as I just mentioned it wasn't until tanks were rolling down their street that the general population went "oh fuck", even during the Spanish flu 100 years ago countries were suppressing just how hard they were getting hit by the pandemic which is why its commonly known as the spanish flu as spain didn't censor reports.

I'd argue that when the media isn't freaking out about something that would get attention and make them a lot of money, and instead focus on non issues is when you should worry.
 
Still it doesn't hurt to be cautious after seeing several videos of people collapsed in the street being carried off by quarantine agents while Xi Jinping uses water bombers fiilled with disinfectant aimed at hot zones in the city make me want to at least hope other countries take high levels of caution when dealing with potentially infected individuals.

I'm glad we have a few cases to study and observe outside the auspices of the PRC. I am sure the medical establishment will be very interested in these cases and developing protocols around the disease. We learned a huge amount about ebola, its transmission and its treatment from that aid agency nurse who came back to the UK with it from the Congo or wherever a few years ago and from the people who ended up back in the USA with it. Stuff we wouldn't have learned at all without a subject somewhere with top quality labs, equipment, personnel and hopsitals ie. not Africa.

You know we had a couple of cases of Monkey Pox (yes, this is a thing, and it's like smallpox only not as nasty) here in the UK last year and in 2018? People travel so much now to and from from various disease--ridden shitholes for business, to immigrate or for their stupid adventure holidays or poverty tourism never mind military people (the monkey pox came in via personnel at a UK naval base) that it's impossible to stop these diseases showing up elsewhere. But those cases were identtified and the patients quarantined and studied before the infection had a chance to go wild and at least we were able to learn from it, far more than if the patients wee stuck in some field hospital in the wilds of west Africa.
 
So why would the CDC do a level 3 travel screen

Normal flu can be deadly to the old and infirm and people with serious medical conditions. Not to mention that it has significant economic effects when there's a flu epidemic.

If they can get out ahead of it and prepare vaccinations then that will save lives and economic impact. Even if it is just like getting regular flu for most people. Flu is nasty even if it's rarely fatal.
 
So the third situation report has landed:

The two most important highlights are that human to human transmission is confirmed and the summary of the report:
WHO assesses the risk of this event to be very high in China, high at the regional level and moderate
at the global level.
 
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