Manosphere Christopher Charles "Chris" Cantwell / FreedomFighter361 / FUFeelinz - Alt-Right, Strongman-Worshipping, McDonalds Addicted Crying MRA Nazi & the Incredible Cuck; Banned From All Social Media for Death Threats. Arrested for online rape threats. Arrested again for meth.

[Hesa]

Not trying for bail in his next court date.

 

[PTNR 2.0]

So a 'libertarian fascist' is someone who wants an authoritarian government to impose 'libertarian' principles on everyone else. The same reason you get 'libertarian monarchists'.

I think you're more than a bit off with your analysis here, and it's resulting in some incorrect conclusions.

A big part of mainstream libertarianism is a rejection of authoritarian social structures, which results in a general mindset of "you're free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't take my money or physically harm me". By definition, you can't implement those mainstream libertarian ideals via authoritarian means. It's anathema to the whole point. It'd be like saying "In the name of animal rights, I'm going to kill all animals so people can't exploit them anymore".

The libertarian-to-extremism pipeline doesn't really work the way you seem to think it does. Libertarians are, as a whole, pretty fine with liberal democracy -- many even think it is absolutely necessary for both a free market and personal liberty, but some eventually decide that a free market and a free society are not compatible due to noting antagonistic contradictions between the two that they feel will invariably lead to both being destroyed and that thus one has to go in order to preserve the other.

For those that prioritize capitalism over personal liberty, they tend to be pushed to fascism-adjacent ideology (especially if they come to think that the typical fascist bugaboos of Jews, commies, degenerate liberals, etc. are consciously pushing to destroy both), so as to crack down on the personal liberties they see as an existential threat to capitalism.

Others are pushed to some kind of left-anarchism, so as to crack down on the capitalist economics they see as an existential threat to personal liberty.

This is why you also don't see a ton of libertarian-to-tankie-authcom crossover, since the authoritarian left preserves neither personal liberties NOR capitalism and, as stated, the adoption of extremist ideologies in libertarians is generally to preserve one or the other.

In Cantwell's case, he decided the jews and commies are trying to destroy the capitalist west, so he went fash to preserve capitalism. In someone like Breadtuber NonCompete's case, he went the opposite direction. Both were originally libertarians, now one's a fascist and one's an anarcho-communist or whatever. Both are dumb, though I think we can agree that Cantwell is a special kind of retarded several orders of magnitude greater than NonCompete.

*"personal liberty" here should be understood to mean social liberties that veer toward the libertine, not economic liberties e.g. the freedom to do drugs, get abortions, gay marry, be transgender, date, marry and procreate with different ethnic groups. Basically things the authoritarian right would call "degeneracy".

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

I think you're more than a bit off with your analysis here, and it's resulting in some incorrect conclusions.

A big part of mainstream libertarianism is a rejection of authoritarian social structures, which results in a general mindset of "you're free to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't take my money or physically harm me". By definition, you can't implement those mainstream libertarian ideals via authoritarian means. It's anathema to the whole point. It'd be like saying "In the name of animal rights, I'm going to kill all animals so people can't exploit them anymore".

The libertarian-to-extremism pipeline doesn't really work the way you seem to think it does. Libertarians are, as a whole, pretty fine with liberal democracy -- many even think it is absolutely necessary for both a free market and personal liberty, but some eventually decide that a free market and a free society are not compatible due to noting antagonistic contradictions between the two that they feel will invariably lead to both being destroyed and that thus one has to go in order to preserve the other.

For those that prioritize capitalism over personal liberty, they tend to be pushed to fascism-adjacent ideology (especially if they come to think that the typical fascist bugaboos of Jews, commies, degenerate liberals, etc. are consciously pushing to destroy both), so as to crack down on the personal liberties they see as an existential threat to capitalism.

Others are pushed to some kind of left-anarchism, so as to crack down on the capitalist economics they see as an existential threat to personal liberty.

This is why you also don't see a ton of libertarian-to-tankie-authcom crossover, since the authoritarian left preserves neither personal liberties NOR capitalism and, as stated, the adoption of extremist ideologies in libertarians is generally to preserve one or the other.

In Cantwell's case, he decided the jews and commies are trying to destroy the capitalist west, so he went fash to preserve capitalism. In someone like Breadtuber NonCompete's case, he went the opposite direction. Both were originally libertarians, now one's a fascist and one's an anarcho-communist or whatever. Both are dumb, though I think we can agree that Cantwell is a special kind of exceptional several orders of magnitude greater than NonCompete.

*"personal liberty" here should be understood to mean social liberties that veer toward the libertine, not economic liberties e.g. the freedom to do drugs, get abortions, gay marry, be transgender, date, marry and procreate with different ethnic groups. Basically things the authoritarian right would call "degeneracy".

I think in the case of libertarians like Cantwell, they don't really want the liberty to do as they please so much as they want the license to do as they please.

Concepts such as "liberty" are generally applied universally, and as such, come with the caveat that you must also respect the liberty of other people. To petulant dullards like Cantwell, such lofty notions are a complete irrelevance, because to him and his ilk, "freedom" is all about them. They don't care about other people, or society, or justice, or really anything else aside from their own impulsive whims.

Ultimately, what blustering egomaniacs like Cantwell really long for is the freedom of the absolute monarch: the right to do unto others as they please, without consequence, or conscience.

It is little wonder why these people are so unpleasant.

 

[tantric_depressive]

Is it 100% certain that Weev is Jewish? I have seen and heard him vehemently deny his Jewishness if he is Jewish.

Weev is 100% pure, Kaufman-tier committed Troll

Well, the funniest shit with these people is always the in-fighting. It's not all about the tiki torches. That's just what the normies see the most. You have to dig deeper if you want to see the best parts of this shitshow.

I am sure Cantwell is furious Weev had a really crackerjack appeals team. No doubt Cantwell thinks Weev was sprung because he's a Jew, and not because legal minds smarter than Cantwell saw actual serious flaws in the government's case. I don't think the EFF is particularly pro-Nazi.

That said, I suppose it is kinda unexpected on some level that Anglin employs Weev.

Didn't Weev's legal battles happen before he adopted the 100% unironic nazi persona, and internet political autists hadn't yet been pushed into the various, always at-eachother's-throats, degrees of normie-repellent extremism we've had since early Trump times? He still had a lot of support in the online nerdy tech n niche culture type realms iirc
Did the feds appeal a prosecutorial loss they suffered against Weev? The fed policy of appealing successful criminal defenses is a glaring example of the state abusing it's power over an individual imho. Such bullshit that allows them to basically either force capitulation, or enforce tangential punishment.I
You're spot on that someone like Cantwell, who immediately went face-down/ass-up for the fedboys, would seethe with envy and resentment at Weev, who actually showed some backbone and conviction while facing harsher charges and penalties from the feds. Anyone that so blatantly violates a just principle, can't help but hate someone that publicly fought to uphold that same principle

Also, it doesn't surprise me at all that Anglin would employ Weev, as Anglin himself seems to be, more than anything else, a troll to the core.

 

[Captain Manning]

Didn't Weev's legal battles happen before he adopted the 100% unironic nazi persona, and internet political autists hadn't yet been pushed into the various, always at-eachother's-throats, degrees of normie-repellent extremism we've had since early Trump times?

I believe so, yes.

Did the feds appeal a prosecutorial loss they suffered against Weev?

They're not entitled to one. He won before a panel of the Third Circuit. The feds would have had to ask for an En Banc hearing before the entire circuit (discretionary, and somewhat rare), or asked for review by the SCOTUS (also discretionary, and extremely rare). Parties in Federal litigation are entitled to a three judge review, and anything higher than that is only if the judiciary feels like it.

They could maybe have retried him in the "correct" jurisdiction, but I think the appeals decision cast a pall over the case having any merit in the first place, and the EFF would have kept fighting them. They seem to have cut their losses.

 

[Terrorist]

Cantwell's problem is he was born a few decades too late. If he was a boomer, he could've been a hollywood nazi back when there were hollywood nazis, in outfits like the National Alliance where the average member was a butched up methhead who loved listening to shitty thrash metal, getting DUIs, sleeping with each other's skank wives, and beating up other methheads over Harold Covington's twinkie collection. Dude would've had the time of his life.

I think in the case of libertarians like Cantwell, they don't really want the liberty to do as they please so much as they want the license to do as they please.

Concepts such as "liberty" are generally applied universally, and as such, come with the caveat that you must also respect the liberty of other people. To petulant dullards like Cantwell, such lofty notions are a complete irrelevance, because to him and his ilk, "freedom" is all about them. They don't care about other people, or society, or justice, or really anything else aside from their own impulsive whims.

Ultimately, what blustering egomaniacs like Cantwell really long for is the freedom of the absolute monarch: the right to do unto others as they please, without consequence, or conscience.

It is little wonder why these people are so unpleasant.

Cantwell's paleo-libertarian/ancap streak is probably a remnant of the old WN militia movements who were obsessed with going "off the grid" and still paranoid about Waco/Ruby Ridge and FEMA camps. Lots of them were sovereign citizen or survivalist types who constantly fedposted about shooting any nigger who disrespected their authoritah and propertah. Stormfront and the like used that rhetoric over again for entryism in the Ron Paul set (since libertarianism was the philosophy du jour in 2008-12 among disaffected nerdy white men), which IIRC is how Cantwell started out.

That philosophy is now third-positionism/econ. nationalism, since the disaffected white men of today feel moreso fucked over by woke capital and cultural libertinism than the government.

 

[SS Reichsmarshall]

That philosophy is now third-positionism/econ. nationalism, since the disaffected white men of today feel moreso fucked over by woke capital and cultural libertinism than the government.

As someone who was around political circles, I could almost "feel" the transition from libertarianism being the de facto ideology of the disaffected white male to Nationalism circa 2014 - 2015.

 

[Captain Manning]

As someone who was around political circles, I could almost "feel" the transition from libertarianism being the de facto ideology of the disaffected white male to Nationalism circa 2014 - 2015.

That might be true for a lot of people, but Cantwell's views didn't voluntarily change from Lolbertarianism. He got thrown the fuck out of Lolbertarianism. He was palling around with Free State Project and Free Keene before they just couldn't take his shit anymore. Mostly I think it boiled down to the fact that those folks are pretty serious about the NAP, and Cantwell... well, isn't. The dude can't go more than five minutes without threatening violence for one thing or another.

Which really says a lot, because the Free Keene people are also cows (who might actually be worthy of their own group thread on the Farms). Ian Freeman is an unrepentant pedo, and most of the rest of them are childish degenerate antisocial retards in one way or another. They're just not violent racist ones. Like Chris is.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

As someone who was around political circles, I could almost "feel" the transition from libertarianism being the de facto ideology of the disaffected white male to Nationalism circa 2014 - 2015.

It's because of the rise of woke corporatism and the frappucino sipping hipster assholes running big tech shutting down right wing viewpoints on social media/blatantly favoring left wing views. It's hard to be enthusiastic about muh capitalism when the biggest capitalists around are directly shitting on you and supporting your enemies.

That might be true for a lot of people, but Cantwell's views didn't voluntarily change from Lolbertarianism. He got thrown the fuck out of Lolbertarianism. He was palling around with Free State Project and Free Keene before they just couldn't take his shit anymore. Mostly I think it boiled down to the fact that those folks are pretty serious about the NAP, and Cantwell... well, isn't. The dude can't go more than five minutes without threatening violence for one thing or another.

Which really says a lot, because the Free Keene people are also cows (who might actually be worthy of their own group thread on the Farms). Ian Freeman is an unrepentant pedo, and most of the rest of them are childish degenerate antisocial exceptional individuals in one way or another. They're just not violent racist ones. Like Chris is.

The fashy crowd meanwhile, have an entirely different set of standards that don't punish someone for being a violent, trashy, paranoid asshole.

And Chris still found a way to piss off and alienate all of them.

 

[Terrorist]

That might be true for a lot of people, but Cantwell's views didn't voluntarily change from Lolbertarianism. He got thrown the fuck out of Lolbertarianism. He was palling around with Free State Project and Free Keene before they just couldn't take his shit anymore. Mostly I think it boiled down to the fact that those folks are pretty serious about the NAP, and Cantwell... well, isn't. The dude can't go more than five minutes without threatening violence for one thing or another.

Which really says a lot, because the Free Keene people are also cows (who might actually be worthy of their own group thread on the Farms). Ian Freeman is an unrepentant pedo, and most of the rest of them are childish degenerate antisocial exceptional individuals in one way or another. They're just not violent racist ones. Like Chris is.

Cantwell doesn't think of it in terms of the NAP. He thinks about it as "I have authoritah over mah propertah, and oh boy Mr. FBI Agent I wish a nigger would disrespect mah authoritah on mah propertah so I could shoot him full of holes". His ideal society is a group of white people who come together in a racial community, and start ethnic cleansing on the grounds that niggers have violated the rules of their private propertah by being black and present. Basically a private-sector ethnostate vs the more common public option most other WNs favor.

I'd argue being a pedo like Freeman is worse than what Cantwell is, though. And the NAP is still a retarded concept to form a society around.

 

[Hesa]

Counsel for the defendant - Jeffery Levin.

 

[PTNR 2.0]

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Counsel for the defendant - Jeffery Levin.

Last time, Cuckwell's lawyer was that Benjamin Franklin cosplayer who practiced law out of a gas station, wasn't it? I wonder what historical era this one LARPs and what ruin his law office is out of? Place your bets, folks. I'm going with "Edwardian dandy" and "boarded up Taco Bell".

 

[SS Reichsmarshall]

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Counsel for the defendant - Jeffery Levin.

Levin is a Jewish last name. Christopher "gas the kikes race war now" Cantwell is being defended by a Jewish man.

 

[AprilRains]

Last time, Cuckwell's lawyer was that Benjamin Franklin cosplayer who practiced law out of a gas station, wasn't it? I wonder what historical era this one LARPs and what ruin his law office is out of? Place your bets, folks. I'm going with "Edwardian dandy" and "boarded up Taco Bell".

If it weren't for the lawyer's name, I'd guess WWII re-enactor in the mom's basement with the candlestick.

 

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Last time, Cuckwell's lawyer was that Benjamin Franklin cosplayer who practiced law out of a gas station, wasn't it? I wonder what historical era this one LARPs and what ruin his law office is out of? Place your bets, folks. I'm going with "Edwardian dandy" and "boarded up Taco Bell".

Levin is a Jewish last name. Christopher "gas the kikes race war now" Cantwell is being defended by a Jewish man.

He's a public defender (federal). I'm sure he'll be cosplaying as Barry Zuckerkorn.

 

[???]

That might be true for a lot of people, but Cantwell's views didn't voluntarily change from Lolbertarianism. He got thrown the fuck out of Lolbertarianism. He was palling around with Free State Project and Free Keene before they just couldn't take his shit anymore. Mostly I think it boiled down to the fact that those folks are pretty serious about the NAP, and Cantwell... well, isn't. The dude can't go more than five minutes without threatening violence for one thing or another.

Which really says a lot, because the Free Keene people are also cows (who might actually be worthy of their own group thread on the Farms). Ian Freeman is an unrepentant pedo, and most of the rest of them are childish degenerate antisocial exceptional individuals in one way or another. They're just not violent racist ones. Like Chris is.

Cantwell has made explicit death threats his entire time in the public spotlight. That's why he was kicked out of the libertarian thing in NH.

 

[Rekkington]

Remember what Freud wrote about projection: take the character flaws you refuse to admit having yourself, and project them onto those you hate. If you read white supremacist screeds aimed at white women, it's all "Avoid non-white men because they're all dangerous violent rapists! You need a good white man to protect you!" And when they're not sneering about the violent criminal tendencies of non-whites, they're engaging in or threatening violent criminal acts themselves.

Projection also explains why it's not surprising at all, that so many virulently anti-homosexual politicians end up getting caught in homosexual trysts themselves: they think of homosexuality as a character flaw but can't bring themselves to admit their own tendencies in that area, so they project it outward.

I love this idiotic theory, anytime I criticize anyone that's what I am! Every time I don't like a thing it's just me screaming "I know I am but what are you?!" Turns out it's actually Asians who shoplift all the time, thanks Dr. Everyone-Wants-To-Fuck-Their-Parents.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

Last time, Cuckwell's lawyer was that Benjamin Franklin cosplayer who practiced law out of a gas station, wasn't it? I wonder what historical era this one LARPs and what ruin his law office is out of? Place your bets, folks. I'm going with "Edwardian dandy" and "boarded up Taco Bell".

 

[JuniperFalls]

I love this idiotic theory, anytime I criticize anyone that's what I am! Every time I don't like a thing it's just me screaming "I know I am but what are you?!"

More precisely, it's "anytime you criticize someone for the same flaws you have, but do not see." Like if you were to accuse others of having poor reading comprehension skills.

 

[Rekkington]

More precisely, it's "anytime you criticize someone for the same flaws you have, but do not see." Like if you were to accuse others of having poor reading comprehension skills.

Yeah except that's subjective and not based on action and I am referring specifically to your example of black rapists and warning women. Your description of projection is wrong by the way, the person doing it must necessarily be aware of themselves doing it, if not it wouldn't be a pathology it would be a coincidence. Like every internet psychologist you've decided projecting is just a synonym for irony.

"Wow isn't it weird so many people against homosexuals are gay?" They're not. That almost never happens, this is the "Japanese used panty vending machine" of insufferable pop-psychology. Everyone just assumes it happens everywhere when it was like one or two a decade ago but all the gossipy hens thought it was too juicy a headline.

Pointing out interracial rape statistics does not make you more likely to be a rapist. By the way, people who say "reading comprehension" on the internet are fags.