New Gnome Code of Conduct - It's pretty bad tbh

[Sidon's fleshlight]

I think honestly KDE is the best desktop interface for Linux. And I'd say the best distros for that are Manjaro and Arch (even though technically Majaro is essentially an easier version of Arch, there are still different audiences for each to make them somewhat different).

 

[Christ Cried]

The tranny sleeper agent thing someone mentioned earlier is spooky

Happy to give you nightmares comrade.

50 top distros according to Distrowatch (with links to each) . Been a while since I visited DW. Seems MX has come a long way...

1	MX Linux	4640
2	Manjaro	2692
3	Mint	2271
4	Debian	1603
5	Ubuntu	1488
6	elementary	1295
7	Solus	1103
8	Fedora	978
9	Zorin	957
10	deepin	892
11	antiX	803
12	CentOS	772
13	KDE neon	763
14	PCLinuxOS	705
15	openSUSE	697
16	ArcoLinux	694
17	Pop!_OS	679
18	Arch	628
19	Kali	518
20	Lite	441
21	Puppy	429
22	ReactOS	422
23	FreeBSD	421
24	Peppermint	392
25	SparkyLinux	381
26	EasyOS	379
27	EndeavourOS	375
28	Lubuntu	373
29	Slackware	356
30	Mageia	355
31	Tails	353
32	Archman	350
33	Parrot	330
34	SmartOS	322
35	Xubuntu	320
36	Q4OS	317
37	Trident	311
38	Alpine	296
39	Kubuntu	290
40	Voyager	285
41	Void	280
42	KNOPPIX	270
43	Ubuntu MATE	267
44	Android-x86	264
45	Red Hat	261
46	Endless	259
47	LXLE	255
48	Bluestar	253
49	Gentoo	247
50	Devuan	238

>ubuntu
>1488
/ourdistro/

 

[Shoggoth]

I don't even know where DistroWatch supposedly gets their numbers from. I'm not convinced MX Linux is even popular let alone #1.

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[InfamyBrah]

In short, yes. It uses a shell over regular old GNOME 3.

If you wanted a version of Ubuntu that isn't fucking TERRIBLE, Install Linux Mint Cinnamon. Its user interface should be very familiar to anyone who has ever used Windows. Its Desktop Environment, Cinnamon, is based on a fork GNOME 3, which was created directly in response to GNOME 3 being fucking garbage. It takes all of the good parts of GNOME 3 (which were mostly holdovers of GNOME 2 anyway), and puts it into a much sleeker, better put together, package. The CoC has no purview over it. I personally use this, and without powerleveling, as I have really nothing personal on this system, I can show you my desktop:
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The best part of Cinnamon is its personalization. You can change absolutely fucking everything about it with complete ease.



If you wanted, you could also install Linux Mint Mate, which is based on a fork of GNOME 2, and actually good piece of software that was made before GNOME became a tranny. It's about as good as Cinnamon, but the layout isn't quite as personalization-friendly, in my experience. The problem with Mate is that you may find it becomes outdated quicker than Cinnamon will, but the devs on the project are doing an excellent job, and it's made up of a team of the people who founded GNOME, and made it viable, versus the HR department that GNOME is now.

No offense, but most of my Linux life, I've met people on internet selling me their distro. I've tried many stuff, from XFCE to Mint, every-time it turned as an inferior experience than Ubuntu. I use Linux for the privacy side of thing and to fuck microsoft in the ass. I don't need all those tinkering stuff and amazing features. The less I touch it out of the box and the simpler it is, the better I am.

I don't do much with my PC than writing stuff on the notepad, watching movies and Mozilla. Ubuntu is perfect for that, I've never had a problem with it.

Plus, it's a controversial take, but I always found all those Linux flavors were dumb and probably the reason why Linux isn't that much used by grandma and stuff. If people managing all those distro were half as smart as the people who manage Microsoft, it would be nice.

 

[Megatorg]

I think honestly KDE is the best desktop interface for Linux. And I'd say the best distros for that are Manjaro and Arch (even though technically Majaro is essentially an easier version of Arch, there are still different audiences for each to make them somewhat different).

XFCE. Change my mind.

 

[The Fool]

XFCE. Change my mind.

Would be if it worked on Wayland

 

[GethN7]

Plus, it's a controversial take, but I always found all those Linux flavors were dumb and probably the reason why Linux isn't that much used by grandma and stuff. If people managing all those distro were half as smart as the people who manage Microsoft, it would be nice.

You likely have a point. Linux's variety of choice is as much weakness as it is strength. Despite the branding and some minor exclusives, most versions of Linux can be made utterly identical in all relevant particulars to one another, while not correcting any of the inherent flaws in the OS choices in the Linux department.

 

[The Fool]

You likely have a point. Linux's variety of choice is as much weakness as it is strength. Despite the branding and some minor exclusives, most versions of Linux can be made utterly identical in all relevant particulars to one another, while not correcting any of the inherent flaws in the OS choices in the Linux department.

I remember back in the day on there literally used to be a Ubuntu Distro Maker tool that was the butt of Linux jokes on /g/ for a while.

The variety of choice is really trivial, though. You can change your DE and package manager (and all package managers are the same anyway), that's about it. systemd, glibc, PulseAudio, Xorg etc.? You're gonna have a hell of a time replacing those. Whether it's the process of ripping them out of your distro or trying to get software to work without them, even on the 3 distros (out of hundreds) that don't have them. It's why I scoff at anyone who ever brings up Linux's apparent "choices" and "customization" before I proceed to bring up those examples.

That said, I don't have any problem with those pieces of software, because they work and I don't have OCD. Actually, I don't even want the supposed "choice", I just want my shit to work and I want it to be standard so it works with everything else. That's why Systemd is so important and why I get confused when people rally against it, specifically for trying to standardize Linux a little bit so it's not such a fractured sysadmin hellscape.

 

[He Who Points And Laughs]

I don't have OCD.

Stay away from Gentoo, it's definitely not for you.

 

[The Fool]

Stay away from Gentoo, it's definitely not for you.

I've been considering trying it just because I never have before and I'm fully prepared to start covering my windows with newspapers if I do

 

[Dr. Sexbot]

Would be if it worked on Wayland

More like Gayland, amirite? Tell me why fucking Compton keeps seizing up an entire core every few days.

On a related note, I've been considering trying out a TWM. Anyone have any favorites, and why?

And so as to keep my post vaguely o/t even though it went off the rails a while ago: can anyone tell us a little more about the relationship between Red Hat and Gnome Foundation? Does Gnome pretty much do as daddy $$$ tells them to, or is the infection more symbiotic than it is parasitic? I'm sure the same shit gets passed around at both offices, but surely there's some key cows in there we can learn more about.

 

[He Who Points And Laughs]

More like Gayland, amirite? Tell me why fucking Compton keeps seizing up an entire core every few days.

Compton's been forked over to Picom. Update to the newer version.

Link

 

[U 'MIRIN BRAH?]

More like Gayland, amirite? Tell me why fucking Compton keeps seizing up an entire core every few days.

On a related note, I've been considering trying out a TWM. Anyone have any favorites, and why?

And so as to keep my post vaguely o/t even though it went off the rails a while ago: can anyone tell us a little more about the relationship between Red Hat and Gnome Foundation? Does Gnome pretty much do as daddy $$$ tells them to, or is the infection more symbiotic than it is parasitic? I'm sure the same shit gets passed around at both offices, but surely there's some key cows in there we can learn more about.

i3 is pretty nice to use.

 

[a_lurker]

Do people even use gnome anymore? I know a lot of distros were defaulting it to draw in normies and the least common denominators with that hipster ass Mac look, but their design by committee hasn't really worked out IMO. The last time I fired up a live cd that had gnome as it's DE it was about as frustrating as a Mac after they appified everything and defaulted to spawning a new desktop and every app just went fullscreen/ maximized and alt tabbing swapped over to another virtual workspace.

Gnome got taken over by hipsters, troons and "artists" who don't use their computer for any sort of work except tweeting, scrawling out furry porn in krita and "~coding~"

"I kept getting distracted, I had the socks on, I was using sublime, but my urge to suck dick and post about it on Twitter was just too strong.

So I've finally got around to submitting all these usability patches for gnome. It's basically an entire rewrite in Ruby on rails on dicks, with a few bits in rusty trombone and built with electron. It will only run chromium or sublimetext in fullscreen mode. IT. IS. PERFECT."

 

[AnOminous]

Whenever I read the "New Gnome Code of Conduct" topic I think that someone finally demanded that Jake Alley behave himself.

 

[InfamyBrah]

XFCE. Change my mind.

I started with XFCE, I even was involved in bugs listing and such. The idea is amazing, the execution not so much. I had a lot of problems with basic use and I started to wonder if Linux was even for me. That's when I cemented the idea of using Ubuntu, to support the most popular distro and hope that one day, it will be the standard.

 

[He Who Points And Laughs]

I started with XFCE, I even was involved in bugs listing and such. The idea is amazing, the execution not so much. I had a lot of problems with basic use and I started to wonder if Linux was even for me. That's when I cemented the idea of using Ubuntu, to support the most popular distro and hope that one day, it will be the standard.

I like the idea of specialized distros. The "one size fits all" is what I don't like about macOS & Windows.

 

[InfamyBrah]

I like the idea of specialized distros. The "one size fits all" is what I don't like about macOS & Windows.

Yeah, but it should be kept simple for people. Something barebones like LXDE, something middle-ground like Ubuntu and something higher end. Three distribution is enough.

Today you have Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu mate, Linux mint, Debian... That's fucked and part of the reason why people will never make the jump.
You shouldn't have to spend dozen of hours to chose a distribution. Devs efforts are also badly spread.

 

[He Who Points And Laughs]

Yeah, but it should be kept simple for people. Something barebones like LXDE, something middle-ground like Ubuntu and something higher end. Three distribution is enough.

Today you have Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu mate, Linux mint, Debian... That's fucked and part of the reason why people will never make the jump.
You shouldn't have to spend dozen of hours to chose a distribution. Devs efforts are also badly spread.

Aye, but I'd pick a flavor of Manjaro for newbies over Ubuntu. Upgrading rolling distros is much easier. Also, finding a default WM for newbies would be a toss up between KDE and XFCE. Gnome can fuck itself (which it is lolfully doing right now). I really think that people switching to Linux would be better served with using Manjaro rather than Ubuntu.

Gentoo will always be for OCD ricers and hard core minimalists, Arch will be the patrician's choice, and the highly specialized distros will there for the professionals.

 

[fuzakeru na]

I don't even know where DistroWatch supposedly gets their numbers from. I'm not convinced MX Linux is even popular let alone #1.

it works on page views, therefore, you can pick the most obscure random piece of shit distro and F5 the page a bunch of times with a bunch of proxies and put it to number 1 anytime you feel like