Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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It's going to be interesting to see if all the money Obama poured into FEMA went into ensuring logistic chains remain tight for FEMA and the US military, or if it all got poured into gold doorknobs and indoor golf courses at Raven Rock.
From my experience with state emergency management agencies, I'd say the latter is closer to accurate.
 
Is ASU a good school?
It hasn't ranked in Playboy or Princetown Review lists of party schools for years. That was what you were asking right?

QAnon loons like Jordan Sather are trying to sell people on drinking bleach (or putting it in your butt) to cure coronavirus.
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Antifa journalist Will Somner put out an article on this. Sather responded, saying that the kind of bleach he wants you to put in your butt isn't the same as household bleach (this is true- it's more dangerous by mole).
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You know what people did way back when this kind of thing happened? People self quarantined, entire cities and towns closed themselves off without a central authority telling them anything and it was surprisingly effective if done early enough. No way the world economy cheerleaders will ever let that happen so let's hope a treatment for this is found fast.

"Cordon sanitaire" -- some interesting historical examples in the wikipedia article:


Also, I skipped through a few pages using highlights... has anyone mentioned Spillover for recommended reading yet?

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The fair number of epidemic/pandemic scares we've had over the past 2 decades leaves me very... cynical. Maybe that's the wrong word. Let's say it reinforces the fact that no matter how well plans are crafted & table topped, 1 key factor always cocks things yup... human behaviour. I'd like to see more planning & exercises that factor in basic human idiocy & that's 1 trait humanity isn't lacking.

Any country hit will suffer slightly differing iterations of the same behaviour - an attempt to control information - which invariably leads to more frightened people not thinking rationally. Areas, presumably smaller, rural areas that take matters into their own hands & keep everyone out will be pointed at by media & sneered at... until years later when someone pointedly notes most or all there were spared.

Just In Time inventory - that if nothing else, should encourage people to stock up on the basic they need. We're only a few generations past when that was simply seen as sensible & not fringe. We're seeing this hit cities now in China - or would see it more openly if China was more open with media. Enough is leaking out to put 2 & 2 together.

Snake oil salesmen are coming out of the woodwork... everywhere. What is it about some people that they feel a need to seek the exotic, the weird? Maybe the ritualization of some... "remedies" gives them more mojo in some peoples' eyes.

We should know by now that information about spread, epidemic curves, cures, deaths & complications always lags real time as things have to be reported up the chain but fer Gawd's sake... give us the truth; even if that truth is: "We don't know but we're working our asses off to find out." I find that level of honesty way more trustworthy.

Enough maundering - what I'm waiting to find out is, if as in SARS, we'll see cases of super spreaders. That can freally screw up containment attempts if a case that later turns out to be one, isn't properly isolated. Also waiting for hard number on how many health care workers are affected.

Sadly, by the time we get any of that from China, this will be going at full speed.
 
More confirmed cases in Thailand and Malaysia


 
The fair number of epidemic/pandemic scares we've had over the past 2 decades leaves me very... cynical. Maybe that's the wrong word. Let's say it reinforces the fact that no matter how well plans are crafted & table topped, 1 key factor always cocks things yup... human behaviour. I'd like to see more planning & exercises that factor in basic human idiocy & that's 1 trait humanity isn't lacking.

Any country hit will suffer slightly differing iterations of the same behaviour - an attempt to control information - which invariably leads to more frightened people not thinking rationally. Areas, presumably smaller, rural areas that take matters into their own hands & keep everyone out will be pointed at by media & sneered at... until years later when someone pointedly notes most or all there were spared.

Just In Time inventory - that if nothing else, should encourage people to stock up on the basic they need. We're only a few generations past when that was simply seen as sensible & not fringe. We're seeing this hit cities now in China - or would see it more openly if China was more open with media. Enough is leaking out to put 2 & 2 together.

Snake oil salesmen are coming out of the woodwork... everywhere. What is it about some people that they feel a need to seek the exotic, the weird? Maybe the ritualization of some... "remedies" gives them more mojo in some peoples' eyes.

We should know by now that information about spread, epidemic curves, cures, deaths & complications always lags real time as things have to be reported up the chain but fer Gawd's sake... give us the truth; even if that truth is: "We don't know but we're working our asses off to find out." I find that level of honesty way more trustworthy.

Enough maundering - what I'm waiting to find out is, if as in SARS, we'll see cases of super spreaders. That can freally screw up containment attempts if a case that later turns out to be one, isn't properly isolated. Also waiting for hard number on how many health care workers are affected.

Sadly, by the time we get any of that from China, this will be going at full speed.
Great now I want a freal shake.
 
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another campus update: more (chinese) students wearing heavy duty masks, one woman was wearing a visor too
apparently all business students got an automatic email (meant for students in china) informing them to contact the school because it's unclear when they can return to america
Makes sense, if you want to email all students from China you probably get less false positives and false negatives emailing all business students than emailing all students with Chinese names.
 
It hasn't ranked in Playboy or Princetown Review lists of party schools for years. That was what you were asking right?

QAnon loons like Jordan Sather are trying to sell people on drinking bleach (or putting it in your butt) to cure coronavirus.
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Antifa journalist Will Somner put out an article on this. Sather responded, saying that the kind of bleach he wants you to put in your butt isn't the same as household bleach (this is true- it's more dangerous by mole).
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Maybe he can demonstrate the effectiveness of this bleach mixture?
 
Apologies if this has been posted but I found a convenient little thread of horrors.
 
And here it is...

In addition, Lin noticed that before Jan. 20, only a few people in Wuhan were wearing masks. He asked an employee at a Wuhan subway station: “Did you know that it’s good to wear a mask? Why don’t you wear it?” The person replied, “Our supervisors forbade us to wear it, so as not to cause panic.”

This shit right here is what's going to fuck China and Western nations if they go with this fucking attitude.

"Oh, we don't want to cause a panic and shut down all the movie theaters, stadiums, political rallies, schools..."
<33 million people die>
"There was no way to stop it..."

You know, that just dawned on me. It's political rally season here in the Hamburger Kingdom. Wonder how that's gonna shake shit up?

There's a VERY real risk of some asshole who already had TDS catch Corona-Chan and deliberately go to a Trump rally just to be an asshole. I mean, 10 years prior I would have said that it could never happen, but one look at Social Media and the news and you know good and damn well some retarded faggot would do just that.

Remember: Human stupidity kills more people than anything else combined.
 
There's a VERY real risk of some asshole who already had TDS catch Corona-Chan and deliberately go to a Trump rally just to be an asshole. I mean, 10 years prior I would have said that it could never happen, but one look at Social Media and the news and you know good and damn well some exceptional faggot would do just that.

Remember: Human stupidity kills more people than anything else combined.
Yeah, I can 100% see that happening. Reminds me of the World of Warcraft plague where folks spread a disease for the Lols. The CDC used this event as a research model.


The Corrupted Blood Incident

We all know a good portion of people would consider finding where the furries are and adding this to their list of diseases.
 

While that seems horrifying, it’s actually almost expected. They had an infected patient who was under intense levels of treatment and extremely direct contact by health care providers, including surgery And post surgical wound and infection care. Health care workers are always the most at risk. Remember I said back a bit, normal surgical masks are to protect the patient from being infected by the surgical staff. They are to screen what the caregivers are breathing out. Not what the caregivers are breathing in. Pre surgical screening is supposed to pick up signs of an infection in the patient before they open him up.

What this does somewhat reinforce is the main vector seems to be close and more often than not direct contact. Which is pretty typical for most respiratory illnesses. Simply passing someone on the street is extremely low risk. You probably need to be within 1-2 meters and/or in a somewhat restricted airspace such as a smaller room or office. The fact that it may be somewhat persistent on things like hard surfaces also contributes. In addition to masks and hand sanitized it’s worth wiping down all communal surfaces such as tables etc at work or in gathering places with something like this. https://www.alimed.com/discide-ultra-disinfectant.html
 
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