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Disheveled Human said:
Like I said to other people, assuming you are a young and healthy person with a strong immune system, these kinds of diseases tend to leave behind permanent damage even after you recover in any case the people who are claiming its not a big deal tend to not factor in the lesions and scaring left behind when you recover from the illness.

Here is a study of 110 SARS survivors 6 months after the onset of the disease.

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Do you have a link for that study?
 
Ari Z. said:
I don't think this has been posted, so here's Japan confirming asymptomatic infection:

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Japan confirms infections without symptoms | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

Japan's health ministry officials have confirmed the first two cases of coronavirus infection without any symptoms in the country. They say the cases without signs of infection are the first to be made public outside of China.
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Japan confirms infections without symptoms

Japan's health ministry officials have confirmed the first two cases of coronavirus infection without any symptoms in the country. They say the cases without signs of infection are the first to be made public outside of China.
The ministry confirmed that three evacuees from the Chinese city of Wuhan have the new type of coronavirus.
The three individuals were among 206 passengers who returned to Japan on Wednesday on a government-chartered flight.

A man in his 40s and a woman in her 50s do not have any signs of infection, but they have tested positive.
Another man in his 50s reported pain in his throat and later developed a fever before testing positive.

The number of people in Japan who've been infected now stands at 11.
The virus was not detected in 201 other passengers from the same flight. Two passengers refused to take the test. And health officials say they will continue to persuade them to get tested.

The ministry says the confirmation of infections of two people who had not traveled to Wuhan proves person-to-person transmission in Japan.

But the ministry is urging the public not to be overly anxious, as the coronavirus has not spread over a wide area.

I'm in a rush, might come back and edit this later with archives if no one has archived yet.
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This seems overly sensationalist. Pretty much any disease can be detected before onset of symptoms, IF YOU KNOW TO LOOK!! The entire article is STUPID. Wow! They are infected without displaying outward symptoms such as a rough cough, sore throat or fever. Welcome to flu season. The question is when to they themselves become infectious? Just going by gut instinct I'm going to guess that yes there is a contagious period before the onset of noticeable symptoms. But it isn't a particularly long period. They don't remain infectious for two weeks with no signs. Probably a few hours or a day before the onset of things like fever etc.
 
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Mild coronavirus symptoms are gonna be indistinguishable from a light cold or allergies so "contagious without symptoms" is a bit misleading as a concept. There are symptoms, they're just also symptoms of ten thousand other things so they get lost in the noise. Which is obviously still not good. We'll find out within the next week or so how serious this is gonna be outside of China.
 
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Your Weird Fetish said:
Even viruses with capsids usually die outside a host within a few hours on the outside. Proteins are pretty sensitive to temperature, ph, etc, and contact with oxygen and water dissolves nucleic acids rapidly. The capsid is more to protect the viral genome from nucleases and the immune system of the host than to make it survivable on the outside. Or it facilitates entry. There's a lot of diversity there.
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SARS being another corona virus has a 2 day lifespan outside of its host. Chances are nCoV2019 have a similar lifespan on surfaces

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SARS virus can last 2 days on surfaces and in feces

(CIDRAP News) Laboratory studies have shown that the SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) coronavirus can survive up to 2 days on plastic surfaces and at least that long in human feces, the World Health Organization (WHO) has announced.
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LolNoIPLeaksEvenLMFAO said:
That’s how long a cold takes to get over. You wanna know how to get rid of a cough with OTC meds? Mucinex, combined with pseudo, and a nasal saline. Shit will be reduced in a day, and gone in like 2-3 depending on how bad it is. Doctor told me that combo and I always do that and clear the fuck up.

take real medicine ffs you remind me of chicks that put tea bags on their eyes for some infection and it goes away at the rate it would with no treatment. Then they claim how amazing it is!
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Nasal saline rinse, N-acetyl-cysteine, High dose zinc and vitamin C taken as soon as I start getting any symptoms works wonders for me. I suffer from chronic sinusitis so in the case I get sniffles I must take antibiotics to prevent further aggravating of my problem, but if I do this combo I’m good in 3 days and avoid the need for antibiotics. NAC works like mucinex but it’s also an antioxidant and has many health benefits. I really recommend to fellow kiwis.
 
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Disheveled Human said:
SARS being another corona virus has a 2 day lifespan outside of its host. Chances are nCoV2019 have a similar lifespan on surfaces

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SARS virus can last 2 days on surfaces and in feces

(CIDRAP News) Laboratory studies have shown that the SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) coronavirus can survive up to 2 days on plastic surfaces and at least that long in human feces, the World Health Organization (WHO) has announced.
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Even in a worst case scenario you're still probably safe unless someone sneezed on the package and you had it express delivered.

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Nasal saline rinse, N-acetyl-cysteine, High dose zinc and vitamin C taken as soon as I start getting any symptoms works wonders for me. I suffer from chronic sinusitis so in the case I get sniffles I must take antibiotics to prevent further aggravating of my problem, but if I do this combo I’m good in 3 days and avoid the need for antibiotics. NAC works like mucinex but it’s also an antioxidant and has many health benefits. I really recommend to fellow kiwis.
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You're using woo and raising antibiotic resistance of bacteria for no reason at the same time. Good job. "Good in 3 days". So yeah, the normal course of a cold.
 
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I got a package directly from Wuhan district yesterday (some old ICs) I had no worries, neither had the postman. To be fair though that package was lying around at customs for weeks at least. If you order internationally, transit out of china and into your country is usually over in like 2-3 days. The rest is all customs processing, at least in my country.
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The entire thing puts a damper into my personal projects as it's probably pointless to order anything from china if everything is locked down and workers aren't allowed to go anywhere. Well beats dying I guess.
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
It's late on my end to do more than just skim through for any key words to pop out at me, but this picture--bruh.

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What are those fucking holes. That is not normal for a flu to do, is it? Is it?

Oh, since this has been on my mind, figured I'd bring it up. My mom's brought it up a couple times before, she just can't recall where she read it and I can't seem to find anything, but apparently there's a record of the American Indians during 1918 who didn't have as many casualties like in the cities and countryside (but smallpox blankets sure did the trick). The reason they managed to make it was because they'd crush and consume bits of aconite (known commonly as wolfs-bane), and the poison would make their immune systems go on high alert.

It's worth noting that a lot of homeopathic medicine uses it, which I know gets a bad rap because it seems a lot of folks pushing it have a disdain for modern medicine, but it's used to combat colds. I've taken some of the aconite before any time I'd get the sniffles and such, and within a few days it clears up. Coincidence or not, I just thought that'd be worth bringing up to see if it means anything. Been taking it again since this weekend, and while my cough hasn't gone away, it hasn't gotten worse, at least, and I don't cough as much throughout the day.

(Two-hour walk was normal today, there were no issues, so still in the green. Sure it doesn't mean much, but it's assuring to me.)
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What the fuck is it with women and poisoning themselves instead of accepting that once you have a virus you have a virus and there's nothing that can be done if there's no antiviral developed?

Please, no one in this thread eat fucking WOLFSBANE to cure yourselves.
 
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Your Weird Fetish said:
Even in a worst case scenario you're still probably safe unless someone sneezed on the package and you had it express delivered.


You're using woo and raising antibiotic resistance of bacteria for no reason at the same time. Good job. "Good in 3 days". So yeah, the normal course of a cold.
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Mang I said I have chronic sinusitis, you are not an ENT, are you? That’s under my dr supervision, I’ve even had to have laparoscopic surgery 2x, Colds last more than a week for me due to my problem because of sinus drainage causing the mucus to accumulate which causes infection. I talked about my personal experience and never suggested kiwis taking antibiotics but what I found works for me.
 
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Yeah doctors are also hugely responsible for the antibiotic resistant bacteria issue.

AmpleApricots said:
I got a package directly from Wuhan district yesterday (some old ICs) I had no worries, neither had the postman. To be fair though that package was lying around at customs for weeks at least. If you order internationally, transit out of china and into your country is usually over in like 2-3 days. The rest is all customs processing, at least in my country.
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The entire thing puts a damper into my personal projects as it's probably pointless to order anything from china if everything is locked down and workers aren't allowed to go anywhere. Well beats dying I guess.
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Alcohol probably still isn't a bad idea, just in case.
 
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Your Weird Fetish said:
What the fuck is it with women and poisoning themselves instead of accepting that once you have a virus you have a virus and there's nothing that can be done if there's no antiviral developed?

Please, no one in this thread eat fucking WOLFSBANE to cure yourselves.
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It's not like there's any active ingredient in any homeopathic medicine besides alcohol. Apart from the occasional industrial contaminant, the only risk is the sin involved.
 
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Daishouri said:
It's important to remember that coronavirus is basically pneumonia, maybe even less dangerous than that. If your country is not a complete shithole, you will be provided with proper help (mostly respiratory), and your immune system will do the rest. It's not like Ebola, which killed people in 4 days with internal fucking bleeding. Just be vigilant, and you'll be fine.
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Pneumonia is pretty dangerous.

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It's not like there's any active ingredient in any homeopathic medicine besides alcohol. Apart from the occasional industrial contaminant, the only risk is the sin involved.
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Yeah that's what the FDA thought but the quality control is shit and it's gonna be hard to control what dose of wolfsbane you're getting. Eating wolfsbane and snorting zinc aren't homeopathic anyway.
 
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