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China coronavirus: first health chief sacked as death toll climbs to 170

Communist Party authorities in Huanggang near heart of outbreak say health commission director dismissed.
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It's long, so here's some points, hope it's not too long:
  • The number of known coronavirus cases jumped by 1,737 to 7,771 in China, bringing the world total to almost 8,000, although by the time I made this summary the SCMP widget is saying that it's past 8,000 already. Deaths are now 171.
  • Huanggang health chief dismissed
  • Russia will close border with China
  • US is sending more flights to evacuate more US citizens, and Australia is in talks to do the same
  • 2 more cases in S. Korea, as well as the first human-to-human transmission case there
  • First case for India & Philippines
  • Taiwan wants to evacuate its citizens in Wuhan, China silent
  • China approved charter flights home to Wuhan for residents of the city who are abroad
  • The expert who claimed he was infected from the eye recovers
  • Chinese expert warns pet owners that virus could be transferred mammal-to-mammal, which WHO has no evidence for
  • Trump administration announced it had set up a coronavirus task force
  • CCP official says situation complicated and grave, advises local government agencies to let employees work from home after holiday is over
  • Ikea closed all of its 33 stores in mainland China
I'm not buying it, but imagine if mammal-to-mammal transmission was a thing for this virus.
 
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Crystal Golem said:
A week ago or so I was sifting through Thai twitter tags on the virus and they seemed like they really really hated both the Chinese for the outbreak and their PM for letting Chinese tourists in. I get the feeling there is definitely huge negative sentiment towards China from all surrounding countries. I mean they are probably predisposed to hate each other anyway.

WH press briefing Kellyanne is on the stage.

-Kelly Anne starts off by saying "we have good news!" she is talking about the opioid crisis and what Trump is doing to help you haven't missed anything on Corona-chan yet. Getting the feeling this might be the bread in the shit sandwich.

-Trumps drug Czar going over in more detail what he and Trump are doing to stop dangerous drugs more specifically opioids.
-He is talking about working with the Chinese to prosecute fentanyl production/distribution
-Now he's talking about stopping drugs coming over the southern border
-DOJ under Trump ramped up prosecutions domestically and internationally
-New HIDA(sp?) initiatives


-Admiral (jawa) Giroir talking about reducing opioid prescriptions
-everyone carry naxolone "everyone deserves a second chance at life"
-American longevity decrease have been stemmed and is turning around mortality rates continuing to drop
-When auto-plants close opioid dependence goes up we must consider those socio-economic issues

-Kellyanne again, talking about the multi-faceted approach to stopping opiod crisis including border control, stopping abuse of prescription drugs
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This seems off topic. whats this blonde bimbo got to do with the Coronavirus? (Other than the fact she always looks like she is infected). Let me assure you - I live in a state devastated by Opiods and it's gone from terrible 3 years ago to downright catastrophic now. We slam the Chinese for PR to make a crisis seem better, and we do the same.
 
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Your Weird Fetish said:
How the hell did China develop an AI that can tell Asian faces apart? Even human beings can't do that.
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They didn't. Most of their AI is paired with apps that identify you with the assistance of a mobile device.

The state of the art with the facial recognition features used to identify their own populace narrows positives down to a small group > 30% of the time. It might be 2, it might be 300. It's not facial recognition if it only works properly 7 out of 10 times, it's a facial recognition feature that works as part of a collection of other identifiers.

Don't get me wrong, they have effective systems to track individuals, but facial recognition features are not bulletproof. The systems they use for tracking you by gait are more effective.
 
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HTTP Error 404 said:
Responsible panic isn't unwarranted.

No one's going to die because they had an extra week's worth of food and some water saved up in the pantry. Worst case scenario, that N95 mask becomes useful later on when you redo your favorite coffee table or something. Knowing the symptoms and what to do in case of illness during a possible epidemic spread (read: stay out of the hospitals unless you have to) isn't bad.
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None of that is really panic though now, is it? Buying a mask is a small relative expense and though probably unneeded therefore isn't a costly response. Knowing the symptoms isn't panic - it's just educating yourself. Panic is reflex reaction based on perception of threat rather than assessment of threat. Panic is locking someone up because they sneezed or wiping billions off international stock markets and pension funds in anticipation of a pandemic. Panic is mass evacuations, shutting down of business. The line between rational response and over-reaction often isn't clear until later but that's not what I'm replying to. I'm replying to people who don't understand that responses have costs and think the more extreme the response the better it is. Like Mr. "anyone downplaying this disease should be infected with it" that I was replying to.

Fear is a natural instinct. It is useful, it is a good servant and a bad master. Panic is irrational by definition and does a lot of harm.

PS1gamenwatch said:
Chinese-phobia?
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Sinusophobia.

Daishouri said:
It's important to remember that coronavirus is basically pneumonia, maybe even less dangerous than that. If your country is not a complete shithole, you will be provided with proper help (mostly respiratory), and your immune system will do the rest. It's not like Ebola, which killed people in 4 days with internal fucking bleeding. Just be vigilant, and you'll be fine.
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I've had pneumonia. Absolutely fucking horrible with a long, drawn out recovery period. But yes, better than ebola I suppose.

Your Weird Fetish said:
Please, no one in this thread eat fucking WOLFSBANE to cure yourselves.
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I'm interested in the idea behind why the poster thought it would work though - as a means of artificially sending the immune system. I've often felt the onset of a cold or other virus and wished my body would just go to full on battle stations. The problem is my body is evolved to conserve energy, to stay in fighting condition... I would love a way to tell it: "Hey, it's the 21st Century I have a fridge full of food and I don't want to spend the next week feeling vaguely crappy. Throw everything you have at it." But no, no fever happens, no massive snuffly discharge of my lungs to get it all over and done with in a weekend. It just shuffles along slowly fighting it over the course of a week.
 
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Menotaur said:
This seems off topic. whats this blonde bimbo got to do with the Coronavirus? (Other than the fact she always looks like she is infected). Let me assure you - I live in a state devastated by Opiods and it's gone from terrible 3 years ago to downright catastrophic now. We slam the Chinese for PR to make a crisis seem better, and we do the same.
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At least now when you get coronavirus the doctors will only give you safe, healthy tylenol to relieve your pain instead of those evil effective pain killers. Daddy Trump always knows best.

Bunny Tracks said:
What an incredibly brave man. I hope he makes it.
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I hope when the CCP stooges come for him he infects them all. Preferably by biting something sensitive.
 
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Menotaur said:
This seems off topic. whats this blonde bimbo got to do with the Coronavirus? (Other than the fact she always looks like she is infected). Let me assure you - I live in a state devastated by Opiods and it's gone from terrible 3 years ago to downright catastrophic now. We slam the Chinese for PR to make a crisis seem better, and we do the same.
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Yeah they seem reluctant to talk about the virus but they do get to it eventually. They seemed way more eager to talk about the opioid stuff which while important doesn't seem as pressing as the outbreak since they seemed to only have good news about it.
 
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I'm interested in the idea behind why the poster thought it would work though - as a means of artificially sending the immune system. I've often felt the onset of a cold or other virus and wished my body would just go to full on battle stations. The problem is my body is evolved to conserve energy, to stay in fighting condition... I would love a way to tell it: "Hey, it's the 21st Century I have a fridge full of food and I don't want to spend the next week feeling vaguely crappy. Throw everything you have at it." But no, no fever happens, no massive snuffly discharge of my lungs to get it all over and done with in a weekend. It just shuffles along slowly fighting it over the course of a week.
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Poisons like that can have interesting and extremely unpredictable effects on the immune system, which is poorly understood. It's entirely possible someone at some point took some of this and it gave their system just the right shock that it was already primed when a virus came calling. But for the vast majority of people using it it'll do nothing, and for some small but nonzero percentage of them, it will put them in the hospital instead. You don't go around poking killer bee hives because of that one lady that got rheumatoid arthritis cured after nearly dying from thousands of stings, do you?

Ironically, most of the discomfort you feel from a viral infection is actually caused by your body's immune response so if you felt it it was probably already responding.
 
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