Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Crunchy Leaf]

Sigh...

This means the system is working. And yes with new ie "novel" diseases samples are generally sent to the CDC for testing. Testing kits are not widespread out to the remote hospitals yet. not even self proclaimed center of everything New York City. That's just how it works. That's how it always works. And it works quite well. Considering the huge Chinese population in and around NYC, and how much daily travel occurs, 1 potential case in a single traveler from Wuhan is a remarkably low number. We are now 12 days into the public knowledge of this. With it having an expected worst case incubation period of 14 days. People in China did not just begin to be infected with it on Jan 20th, nor did they only start moving about the world on that date. So the cases detected outside of China are actually remarkably low, with the vast majority of them being direct travelers from China, and the few examples were the patient had not been to China they were in extended close proximity and direct contact with one or more persons who had. Direct family members in the same residence or that one poor Japanese bus driver who was in a bus with an entire bus of Wuhan tourists for two weeks.

Can it gain a foothold and spread here? Yes. But it's strange that it has not done so yet in the places it would be most anticipated to do so. College Dorms with a high population of recently returned Chinese students. (a close contact living arrangement with extremely poor hygiene and disinfectant processes.) Day Care centers and elementary schools where kids freely mingle in close contact. And the Health care system itself. Which is probably the primary vector of spread in Wuhan.

The spread feels low. It feels like fairly substantial contact is needed to spread or the virus effectively. It probably spreads in saliva droplets and has a decent persistence on hard surfaces. But it doesn't seem to have a far or strong airborne range. Hand sanitizer and regularly wiping down all the common surfaces at work and home will probably do most of the job of keeping you safe.

I also wonder if there have been more cases in the US but they've been mild.

 

[Ahriman]

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

“NEW: China's National Health Commission says victims of coronavirus should be immediately cremated after death. Burial is not an option.”

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[Eryngium]

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BNO Newsroom on Twitter

“NEW: China's National Health Commission says victims of coronavirus should be immediately cremated after death. Burial is not an option.”

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ZOMBIES

 

[AmpleApricots]

The spread feels low. It feels like fairly substantial contact is needed to spread or the virus effectively. It probably spreads in saliva droplets and has a decent persistence on hard surfaces. But it doesn't seem to have a far or strong airborne range. Hand sanitizer and regularly wiping down all the common surfaces at work and home will probably do most of the job of keeping you safe.

I was just telling this to a friend who was panicking today. Knowing the communist mantra of "If I don't report it then it's not my fault" and seeing how shitty chinese healthcare seems to be, I'm sure this had chances to spread around in china probably at the very least since December, then it also probably took some time until the appropriate places finally admitted to themselves that something was odd and entered the proper channels. If it was very infectious I would assume that there would be clusters of this disease popping up all over the western world, especially with the hyper-sensibility to reporting people have to it now, but it doesn't seem to happen quite and almost all examples of it in the western world they seem to be able to trace back directly to China quite easily, instead of having complicated infection chains. If shit doesn't go down suddenly the next week in western countries, I don't think it's going to be on the scale of China in the west. I don't think people quite understand how interconnected the world these days is and how many people move from country to country every single day. If it's very infectious and robust against sanitary measures, it's everywhere at this point.

Then there's also the theory that asians might be intrinsically more vulnerable which is of course way too early to claim but I wouldn't outright reject it either at this point.

I really wonder if this will be Chinas Chernobyl.

 

[Coleslaw]

America has bats too. Do we have weird new bat diseases all the time? No. And it’s not from lack of contact, because every year there’s multiple cases of people needing post-exposure rabies prophylactic shots because they came in contact with bats.

Do major Chinese cities even have bats casually flying around like American cities do? I met Chinese students at my university who were fascinated by the squirrels and geese because you don’t see any wildlife at all on the streets of major Chinese cities. The bats they found that had a disease similar to the Wu Flu were in a cave in Yunnan, which is a long, long way from Wuhan, and also somewhere people might be going to catch game to sell to city slickers.

There are stray cats in my neighborhood. People from other towns sneak in at night to kill and eat them.

 

[dopy]

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“NEW: China's National Health Commission says victims of coronavirus should be immediately cremated after death. Burial is not an option.”

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kojima predicted this yet again

 

[Uncle Ted]

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“NEW: China's National Health Commission says victims of coronavirus should be immediately cremated after death. Burial is not an option.”

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This is too close to Plague, Inc. to feel real.

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

The Philippines reports 2nd case, 1st death outside of China.

 

[moocow]

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Global Times on Twitter

“Wenzhou in East China’s Zhejiang Province regulates that only one family member is allowed to step out of the door every other day for grocery shopping in the city from Saturday to Feb 8, amid efforts to contain the #nCoV2019 epidemic. (File Photo)”

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How does that actually help prevent spreading the disease? The picture even shows people randomly groping produce. Surely that's a vector too, right?

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

I was just telling this to a friend who was panicking today. Knowing the communist mantra of "If I don't report it then it's not my fault" and seeing how shitty chinese healthcare seems to be, I'm sure this had chances to spread around in china probably at the very least since December, then it also probably took some time until the appropriate places finally admitted to themselves that something was odd and entered the proper channels. If it was very infectious I would assume that there would be clusters of this disease popping up all over the western world, especially with the hyper-sensibility to reporting people have to it now, but it doesn't seem to happen quite and almost all examples of it in the western world they seem to be able to trace back directly to China quite easily, instead of having complicated infection chains. If shit doesn't go down suddenly the next week in western countries, I don't think it's going to be on the scale of China in the west. I don't think people quite understand how interconnected the world these days is and how many people move from country to country every single day. If it's very infectious and robust against sanitary measures, it's everywhere at this point.

Then there's also the theory that asians might be intrinsically more vulnerable which is of course way too early to claim but I wouldn't outright reject it either at this point.

I really wonder if this will be Chinas Chernobyl.

I’ve seen people claim the US government is covering up the number of cases so the Super Bowl goes on as normal. Thoughts?

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

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Can anyone tell us the significance of this? Is this something China needs to do because of their shitty sanitation systems or would it apply to civilized countries?

Academics, please respond.

 

[XYZpdq]

I’ve seen people claim the US government is covering up the number of cases so the Super Bowl goes on as normal. Thoughts?

there's enough randos in the food chain for "the US government" that it would have leaked bigtime legit from them warning their mom or something

I'm still of the idea that either
a) it's Bi-Annual Death Plague From Asia that ends up mostly hype when it hits civilzation
b) it's legit super death aids but it's already around enough that fuck it I can buy all the masks and shit I want it won't matter

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Can anyone tell us the significance of this? Is this something China needs to do because of their shitty sanitation systems or would it apply to civilized countries?

Academics, please respond.

Don't most people cremate their loved ones after death anyway? I don't see how this is any different then if they requested it themselves.

 

[SparklyFetuses]

Chile's ports are currently reinforcing measures, and the Ministry of Health requested the Army to use their military hospital to treat patients with Wu Flu (in case it arrives). Both articles are in spanish.

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Puertos y puntos de acceso a Chile refuerzan medidas ante posible llegada de coronavirus - PortalPortuario

Por Pablo Carrasco, Concepción. @PortalPortuario Las autoridades de salud chilenas decretaron una serie de medidas en los puertos y puntos

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Ministerio de Salud pide al Ejército usar el Hospital Militar para tr…

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[Exigent Circumcisions]

Don't most people cremate their loved ones after death anyway? I don't see how this is any different then if they requested it themselves.

Depends on where you live and the religious beliefs/cultural mores in the area. I think in India it's very common but the US and Canada less so.

Anyways, the fact that China is saying that it must be done indicates that there's a sizable number of people not being burned up.

 

[Autistic lurker]

The Philippines reports 2nd case, 1st death outside of China.

So does it mean Hotwheels is in danger?

 

[Ahriman]

This bears repeating:

Coronavirus - Cats and dogs ‘thrown from tower blocks’ in China after fake news rumours animals are causing spread

PANICKING pet owners are reportedly throwing cats and dogs out of towerblocks following bogus claims deadly coronavirus can be passed on by animals. Chilling pictures coming out of crisis-hit China…

www.the-sun.com

F to all those pets.

 

[JongleJingle]

This bears repeating:

Coronavirus - Cats and dogs ‘thrown from tower blocks’ in China after fake news rumours animals are causing spread

PANICKING pet owners are reportedly throwing cats and dogs out of towerblocks following bogus claims deadly coronavirus can be passed on by animals. Chilling pictures coming out of crisis-hit China…

www.the-sun.com

F to all those pets.

Soulless bastards. They deserve getting fucked by this uber-plague. I hope Winnie is having fun with his healthcare, cuz if this continues any further things are gonna get MESSY in his area. China CANNOT keep up the pace with this thing.

 

[Bob's Fries]

There's a morbid irony of a country that once hated being named "The Sick Man of Asia."