Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

Gay kids exist. All the evidence suggests that if it weren't for his mother, Jazz would have grown up to be gay. Trans kids might exist, but I certainly doubt it, and the troons don't even care about whether anybody's dysphoric or not - let alone so severely dysphoric that attempting to live as the other gender is the least worst solution. But gay kids do.

After all, there's no such thing as Rapid Onset Homosexuality.
kids with severe body dysphoria/dysmorphia exist, the idea that they are literally the opposite sex or need to live as the opposite sex is a modern invention. So trans kids exist if you interpret their symptoms to mean they are trans, rather than being simply mentally ill. There are disorders that don't manifest until adulthood, but dysphoria isn't one of them. It is incredibly rare for kids to have this issue.

I think gay kids exist too. the biggest study of cross gender play in childhood correlates that behavior with homosexuality. It isn't a guarantee, but a kid that plays better with the opposite sex (because of shared interests) they have a much higher chance of being gay. A lot of kids who grow up to be gay have exclusively same sex romantic interests in childhood ("crushes", fantasies about marrying someone of the same sex, etc). Lots of gay people don't know they are gay until puberty though too, so it is a mixed bag.
 
I think that sexuality is something that develops, sometimes as early as in utero. But there are many other factors at play, and sexuality is malleable in many cases, and falls on a spectrum.

My issue with the concept of "gay kids" is that some children's adult sexuality can be predicted (the boy who consistently chooses to play house with the neighborhood girls, rather than ride dirtbikes with the boys, the tomboy who tries to throw her dolls away) but it is not 100 percent.

So if Jonathan insists on wearing pink sparkly shoes in early childhood, parents can fall into the trap of assuming he is queer, and inadvertently pigeonhole him into this role, when maybe he is just eccentric or clueless ... (Sharon is the "caring" one, Robert is the "athletic" one, Jon is the "gay" one). And believe me, Sharon might grow to resent that she is always supposed to put everybody else first, as the caring one. Robert might actually despise being pressured by dad into being an athletic overachiever, and Jonathan actually would prefer not to be emasculated while he is trying to figure things out.

And not all gays and lesbians fit our stereotypes. Some are absolutely invisible as gays, as their sexual orientation has no noticeable impact on their demeanor, conduct or attire.

That is why I regard open speculation about a prepubescent child's sexuality to be off-limits. I also consider the use of slurs and labels around children to also be inappropriate, and if they come home discussing this stuff, it should be glossed over and shoved into a drawer. I am not sex-negative. I just think that we run into a fine line between awareness, and grooming when it comes to educating children about topics that they don't grasp, but have lifelong repercussions.
 
Eh, I don't care. He's happy and I'm glad.

Jazz could have been the same way if his mom had given him time to grow up and decide who he really was.

We actually have no idea who Jazz would have become. But he should have been allowed to become who he would have become. Not sure about any legal philosophy behind it, but think that people should have the right to grow and develop and decide for themselves who they become.

Gay, straight, transgender, asexual, trans, who knows ... the course of his life should have been his to navigate.
 
Gay kids exist. All the evidence suggests that if it weren't for his mother, Jazz would have grown up to be gay. Trans kids might exist, but I certainly doubt it, and the troons don't even care about whether anybody's dysphoric or not - let alone so severely dysphoric that attempting to live as the other gender is the least worst solution. But gay kids do.

After all, there's no such thing as Rapid Onset Homosexuality.
Gay kids definitely exist. Knew a family with a son that acted pretty gay from day one. They didn't react to it at all. Kid grew up and remained gay. Actually is a successful theater teacher now.

Yes, but those are traits, the actual behavior would have been developed later in life, not at three years old.

My point is, as much as we want to adorn it, homosexuality is and only is feeling sexual attraction for someone of your same sex. Someone who is as young as three, or even eight years old, doesn't yet have any sexual attraction for anyone. It's until puberty when your body just learns and acts the part. A boy who, for example, likes to play with dolls could be an indicator of homosexuality, but it's not on itself homosexuality and isn't even a 100% indicator of possible homosexuality. Hence, neither homosexual or heterosexual children exist: they are asexual.

Same with trans kids. Yes, the case of a young child who doesn't feel comfortable with their own gender can exist, but they're very, very rare: it's more likely there are any of many other factors making them act this way, including autism, mental illness, sexual abuse, and simply playing pretend. They haven't yet developed their sense of identity enough to realise something's wrong with it. For example, I once took one of my kids to the doctor for a diagnose and the doctor plainly told me it was yet too soon to tell because they needed my kid to keep growing. He was three and they told me to try again when he's about eight. Same shit, any doctor trying to push any conclusion on kids that young, it's not being honest.
 
A study of preschool-age kids (age 2.5 years to 4.5 years) found that engaging in behaviors typically associated with the opposite sex is predictive of homosexuality later in life. Of course not 100% of these kids end up gay or lesbian, but the likelihood that they will be is higher.

Another study that's really interesting followed kids from the beginning of their 6th grade school year to the end of the school year. The kids who were bullied during the first part of the school year for what the other kids considered acting gay were more likely to come out as transgender during the second part of the school year. So are those kids really transgender or are these kids just saying they are trans as a way to get the bullying to stop? (I'm not a boy, I'm really a girl so you have no reason to bully me for acting like a girl).

Both of these studies IMHO are huge red flags for transitioning kids or even just telling a kid they are transgender, or reinforcing/affirming the kid's belief they are transgender. The chances they might just be gay or lesbian are just too high. But it's cool and woke and trendy to have a trans kid and we might even get a TV show out of it, so let's ruin our kid's physical and mental health, take away any semblance of having a private life and a private body, and make sure he will never get to enjoy the pleasure of a sexual relationship as an adult. Yes let's do it.
 
Yes, but those are traits, the actual behavior would have been developed later in life, not at three years old.

Yes, the better way to phrase it is probably 'kids that will grow up to be gay', but even before puberty hits kids can know they're different in some way - usually due to not adhering to gender norms, especially in terms of socialisation. So while it doesn't have a sexual component, it can be something adults pick up on. Unfortunately, it also presents a vulnerability that predators can exploit as well, like any other point of difference.
 
Gay kids definitely exist. Knew a family with a son that acted pretty gay from day one. They didn't react to it at all. Kid grew up and remained gay. Actually is a successful theater teacher now.

Kids who act gay exist. And that's why you always tell a kid you love them unconditionally and, if they have to deal with bullying for "acting gay," try to help them stop it or deal with it. You don't send them to school in bondage gear with a bunch of dildos.
 
A study of preschool-age kids (age 2.5 years to 4.5 years) found that engaging in behaviors typically associated with the opposite sex is predictive of homosexuality later in life. Of course not 100% of these kids end up gay or lesbian, but the likelihood that they will be is higher.

I remembered to have read before that people are able to recognize someone to be gay just by interacting with them, that this explains the so called "gaydar"

Which is funny because a few liberals call gaydars homophobic.

It's like science loves to bitchslap these people once and again.
 
It's not only high, it's actually 100%. Transgenderism is a non-existent condition.
Transgenderism is a nonexistent condition= :agree:

The likelihood that “trans kids” are actually gay being 100% = :disagree:

I get where you’re coming from but there are a whole lot of straight, feminine women who are thanking their lucky stars that people weren’t trooning out kids back when they were tomboys who cut their hair & refused to wear dresses.
(And I’m sure that likewise, but perhaps to a lesser extent, there are normie masculine straight dudes who were sensitive, creative bookish nerds as kids & their parents might’ve feared they were gay & trooned them out had it been an option.)
 
It's not only high, it's actually 100%. Transgenderism is a non-existent condition.
I don't think transgenderism needs to be a nonexistent condition in order for us to criticize the current insane interpretations of who would benefit from transitioning. There's a tiny number of people who transition and are apparently better off psychologically living as their preferred gender. That's not an excuse for cutting off children's penises, though, because clinicians don't use the same tools and criteria for children as they do for adults.

TLDR It's possible that two things are true at once: there are real tranners and that Jeanette and her ilk are fucking crazy.
 

Imagine being a 20 year old guy, wanting to eat like a 20 year old guy, and fucking yourself over after years and years of hormones and blockers, reducing your natural body to that of a blob with no impulse control. My heart bleeds for Jazz. His body is sending every possible signal to him that something is seriously wrong/abnormal and Jeanette just brushes it off.
 
It'd be like trying to be with someone who had been victimized by the worst forms of FGM as a child. Except worse in some ways, because at least with an FGM victim you wouldn't be seen as an asshole for feeling pity and sadness over their mutilated crotch, while with Jazz you'd have to feel all the same pity and revulsion while taking pains to hide it, else risk being branded the cause of his inevitable suicide.
 

Imagine being a 20 year old guy, wanting to eat like a 20 year old guy, and fucking yourself over after years and years of hormones and blockers, reducing your natural body to that of a blob with no impulse control. My heart bleeds for Jazz. His body is sending every possible signal to him that something is seriously wrong/abnormal and Jeanette just brushes it off.

from the binge eating clip:
Jeannette: "you're not healthy...because you still binge every now and then. I don't think jazz will ever 100% get rid of the binge eating, which makes me really worry about her, becausethere are many times jazz has shown us that she has no impulse control"

Jeez, almost seems like what might happen to an adult without the mental maturation that comes from natal puberty. HMMM.
Jazz gets friendzoned by her lady pal


Yeah no shit. No real girl is gonna wanna eat out your fuckin' rottin crotch just like no real boy is going to want to put his wiener in there.

from the friendzone clip
jazz "I feel like after the surgery I am going to want to do things differently and really put myself out there" oh god, no. This poor fucking kid has always been waiting for the next step in transition to really live, and when the surgeries are over its going to be painful to realize that you're the same person you always were.

god he really looks at Victoria like a 12 year old who thinks the babysitter is pretty. She really seems to think she is being nice by going on these pity dates and pretending that she doesn't care about jazzs franksnatch. Its actually cruel.

"yes I have a girlfriend" says victoria. if you slow it down you can see the exact moment his heart breaks.
 
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