Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

Sounds like CBS is improving. STD season 2 had 22.
My quick and dirty review?

"It's the best we could hope of the love child of firefly and battlestar galactica raise by Logan that we could have hoped for."

2 things would have made this amazing for me:
1) if one of the romulans staying with Picard was shown staring up at the night sky. "What's wrong?" "Oh. Just looking at Romulus. " *points*

Well that didn't happen. So there's one other hope.

2) it's revealed near the end that Lore was behind it all and Brent Spiner goes full ham at the revelation.
 
My quick and dirty review?

"It's the best we could hope of the love child of firefly and battlestar galactica raise by Logan that we could have hoped for."
I actually see where you're coming from with that, your allusion makes sense even, but please don't compare STP to Firefly ever again, I don't think my heart can take it... @_@ Thankyou <3
 
Erm....niggas I dont know the veracity of this shit but I have seen this supposed leak pop up a few times and its just stupid enough to all be real
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I guess we shall see whether this coon be lyin in the runup to summer...
 
So I haven't seen this but I've seen the trailer. Why do the Romulans look human now? I mean Star Trek has always distinguished alien species solely by body paint or forehead texture, but even by that standard the Romulans now just look like humans. I'm wondering if there's an in-universe explanation for this or if it's just varying special effects budgets.

I thought the Romulans were the same species as the Vulcans but then in Nemesis they were Klingons with Beetles haircuts. Now they're back to looking like humans. I'm confused.
 
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I thought the Romulans were the same species as the Vulcans but then in Nemesis they were Klingons with Beetles haircuts. Now they're back to looking like humans. I'm confused.

There's a rumor that says that due to licensing issues between CBS and Paramount, the people making Trek right now need to make everything 25% different or pay fees. It's not being 100% confirmed because the people doing the show deny it, but it would explain a lot.

That and, supposedly, Bad Robot can only profit from merchandise with new designs, not the old ones. So J.J is pushing his weird designs while also trying to profit from nostalgia.

Basically Star Trek is a huge mess right now legally.
 
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Not even the promise of Romulans can get me interested in this. Now if Gul Dukat somehow (because canon means shit) snuck his way in...
*sigh* Somehow, Gul Dukat has returned

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Erm....niggas I dont know the veracity of this shit but I have seen this supposed leak pop up a few times and its just stupid enough to all be real
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I guess we shall see whether this coon be lyin in the runup to summer...
I think it's bullshit. They would never make a Pike spin-off, it's against their agenda.
There are always people on /tv/ saying crap about the future Star Trek shows (more now that Midnight's Edge made a video based on screenshots from 4chan).

So I haven't seen this but I've seen the trailer. Why do the Romulans look human now? I mean Star Trek has always distinguished alien species solely by body paint or forehead texture, but even by that standard the Romulans now just look like humans. I'm wondering if there's an in-universe explanation for this or if it's just varying special effects budgets.

I thought the Romulans were the same species as the Vulcans but then in Nemesis they were Klingons with Beetles haircuts. Now they're back to looking like humans. I'm confused.
The Remans aren't Romulans but they live on the same star system.
The Romulans in the Picard spin-off look like hipster elves because the people who make the show don't care. They're supposed to have a bump on the forehead and a different skin tone, yellow-ish or slightly green, like the Vulcans (who also have human skin tones in STD and Picard).
 
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The Remans aren't Romulans but they live on the same star system.
The Romulans in the Picard spin-off look like hipster elves because the people who make the show don't care. They're supposed to have a bump on the forehead and a different skin tone, yellow-ish or slightly green, like the Vulcans (who also have human skin tones in STD and Picard).

Oh, no - I know the Remans are the chalky ones who look like their mum had sex with a bat. But the Romulans in that film also looked different.
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It's weirdly inconsistent and I wondered if there's some in-universe explanation for it. Like they're supposed to be a different branch of the Romulans or something. I get how the Klingons went from this:
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to this:

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to this:

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Because special effects are improving over time and also, the early ones look like a bad attempt at Bedouin-face. Just like the Borg look a lot more convincing the in the later Star Trek movie than in their first TNG appearance. But in contrast the Romulans appear to be getting less alien with time. So there's no explanation for that, it's just something the audience ignores? That's mad.
 
Erm....niggas I dont know the veracity of this shit but I have seen this supposed leak pop up a few times and its just stupid enough to all be real
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I guess we shall see whether this coon be lyin in the runup to summer...
I swear to God if they make Avery Brooks, or even worse, some no-name alternative, dance like a Sisko puppet in front of me in a new level of desperation for ratings I will go put a bag of flaming poop on Kurtzman's front step.
 
Not even the promise of Romulans can get me interested in this. Now if Gul Dukat somehow (because canon means shit) snuck his way in...
Ira Behr lost his shit every time Dukat was shown to have even the slightest hint of a positive portrayal, what do you suppose would happen if the 17 or so producers attached to this shit were given the idea of putting him in the show? Marc Alaimo would never do it anyway. Bless the man, he's fully on the "Dukat did nothing wrong" train and I can't think of any younger actor who could be as big of a charming snake as him. Because if you don't show him like that, then he might as well be an original character and where's the fun in that.
 
I think it's bullshit. They would never make a Pike spin-off, it's against their agenda.
Are you sure about that? I can picture it in my head now, a show where the big dumb brash white male captain has to be saved every week by his hyper competent stronk womyn second in command, and poc crew. Also if Spock's there, he can talk about how great his sister is every 5 minutes.
 
It's weirdly inconsistent and I wondered if there's some in-universe explanation for it. Like they're supposed to be a different branch of the Romulans or something. I get how the Klingons went from this:
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to this:

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to this:

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Because special effects are improving over time and also, the early ones look like a bad attempt at Bedouin-face. Just like the Borg look a lot more convincing the in the later Star Trek movie than in their first TNG appearance. But in contrast the Romulans appear to be getting less alien with time. So there's no explanation for that, it's just something the audience ignores? That's mad.
The Picard Romuelfs are waaaaay less objectionable than the STD Klingorcs.
 
Because special effects are improving over time and also, the early ones look like a bad attempt at Bedouin-face. Just like the Borg look a lot more convincing the in the later Star Trek movie than in their first TNG appearance. But in contrast the Romulans appear to be getting less alien with time. So there's no explanation for that, it's just something the audience ignores? That's mad.
They also generally lose interesting character traits. Kurtzman-trek generally views the romulans as "the antagonist race" in Star Trek. When in reality they were more of a scheming race that would create elaborate plots and you'd have to stay 2 steps ahead of them. None of that is in Kurtzman trek they just make them thuggish space elves.

There's a common throughline with every creative difference Kurtzman trek did compared to old trek, which is none of it is meant to improve on anything from the previous show. It's all either changed because they think the audience is dumb, they just forgot a detail from a prior show or they just didn't care. Fans create elaborate canonical explanations to justify these differences despite it being so obvious the creators did not care at all about any of it. They didn't change the Klingons for a creative reason it was most likely done due to a license issue and they wanted to sell toys of them without cutting CBS in. The main issue I have is why call them Klingons? Why make direct sequel/prequel series's. Why not just make a series that takes place far into the future then you don't have to worry about most of this. It just screams of insecurity like they don't think the audience wants anything than Spock or Captain Picard.
 
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Than what? All of the TOS/TNG-era races featured in the video? Well, yeah, if that's what you're getting at, but in any event, I can't think that the Romulans losing their brow-ridges (which I've never liked anyway, because they ought to be physically indistinguishable from Vulcans) is all that horrifying, certainly not in comparison with STD turning the Klingons into blue-skinned space-orcs with four nostrils and gills on the sides of their heads. 🤔
 
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