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A few people have remarked on the lack of infected kiwis. I have a stat on that, which is that approximately 167k would have to be infected before it is likely that a kiwi would be. Obviously most of the cases are in China, with an assumed disproportionate lack of Chinese kiwis, so the real figure is likely to be far far higher. Hope that sets anyone's mind at rest :)
 
Lets have a bit of fun looking at the economic impacts of this so far.

1. Airlines are fucked. Virtually all mainland airlines have put their foreign pilots on mandatory unpaid leave until... who the fuck knows. HKs Cathay Pacific has done the same and is cancelling ~90% of their mainland flights over the next 2 months.

2. 174 Billion worth of liquidity has already been injected into the market . Expect a lot more in the coming weeks. Also companies have started issuing bonds to help them get through this.

3. Foxconn is saying production wont resume for at least a few weeks, and their sales growth estimates for the year have been cut by 2% to the 1-3% range. Apple is probably the best known foxconn contract, but they have also made shit for nintendo/microsoft/sony and pretty much every other big name consumer electronics brand. Analyist are estimating that the new iphone launch will be delayed by a few weeks - insert satania gif here-

4. There are also a couple big LCD makers in the wuhan area. Other phones might be delayed or have price increases.

5. Rail traffic is about 25% of what it normally is at this time. It's not just the airlines getting fucked.

6. Some bigwig chinese economist estimates that most small and medium firms can only handle about a month of this. Some just getting by are almost certainly toast already.

7. Oxford estimates 5.4% GDP growth for the year, while their prior estimate was 6%. Make a guess how low it will go if Wuhan is a ghost town come march.
Disney is anticipating that it’s Shanghai and Hong Kong parks and resorts will be closed until at least the end of March. And are expecting a $280 million write down from that alone.

I've seen that kind of gas/smoke being used here before during the Zika/Dengue outbreak. According to someone I know wh lived in a poor neighborhood, the government arrived early in the morning and made everybody leave their homes. Once everybody was outside, they gassed everything. They couldn't return home for about half an hour or so. It was meant to kill all bugs, especially mosquitos and such. I've never seen it being used to clean in this way in my life.

it’s a mosquito fogged. Basically spraying out an aerosol Deet or DDT mix to kill the carrier insects. I’m pretty certain that it won’t do shit against a virus directly unless said virus is within a very tight radius of the fogger. A disinfectant fog might work well in an enclosed space such as a sealed room or house. But in open air? It’s not doing shit.
 
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Add Detroit to the list.


Between uranium leaks in the water, industrial leaks on the highways, and the usual Detroit level of "safety" thanks to upstanding urban gentlemen, it can't get much worse (but it will)
 
Disney is anticipating that it’s Shanghai and Hong Kong parks and resorts will be closed until at least the end of March. And are expecting a $280 million write down from that alone.



it’s a mosquito fogged. Basically spraying out an aerosol Deet or DDT mix to kill the carrier insects. I’m pretty certain that it won’t do shit against a virus directly unless said virus is within a very tight radius of the fogger. A disinfectant fog might work well in an enclosed space such as a sealed room or house. But in open air? It’s not doing shit.
Good thing they have exceptional Star Wars movies making money hand over fist.
RIP profit margin.
 
A few people have remarked on the lack of infected kiwis. I have a stat on that, which is that approximately 167k would have to be infected before it is likely that a kiwi would be. Obviously most of the cases are in China, with an assumed disproportionate lack of Chinese kiwis, so the real figure is likely to be far far higher. Hope that sets anyone's mind at rest :)
How are you calculating that number? What distribution are you using? I think you're making a lot of assumptions in your model.

I've just been paranoid bc I work at a research lab w a considerable number of Chinese nationals & my closest colleague came back from Beijing a few weeks ago. My lungs are also damaged from of a bad case of pneumonia I've had in the past, so I'm on alert I guess. I think the chance of the typical person catching this thing in the West is very low for now, and the chance of that person also having complications will be even lower. People need to be careful about how they calculate stats about this virus though, because I've seen a lot of very incorrect models.
 
I think someone (or even myself) predicted this before, but this Wuhan coronavirus, if it doesn't ultimately cause the CCP-led Chinese state to outright collapse, will severely damage it for the foreseeable future.
 
I think someone (or even myself) predicted this before, but this Wuhan coronavirus, if it doesn't ultimately cause the CCP-led Chinese state to outright collapse, will severely damage it for the foreseeable future.

It may not bring down the CCP. But it just might end Xi’s lifetime appointment and cult of personality plans. The funny thing about plagues is it becomes very hard to use your army to enforce your political will, as they don’t want to get sick either.

Speaking of which, I wonder what the current state of China’s Army is? How many returned to barracks after a few days home with the family in Wuhan? What Chinese Military ships set sail between the first cases in December and the public announcement Jan 21? And God forbid this gets aboard a sub.
 
It may not bring down the CCP. But it just might end Xi’s lifetime appointment and cult of personality plans. The funny thing about plagues is it becomes very hard to use your army to enforce your political will, as they don’t want to get sick either.

Speaking of which, I wonder what the current state of China’s Army is? How many returned to barracks after a few days home with the family in Wuhan? What Chinese Military ships set sail between the first cases in December and the public announcement Jan 21? And God forbid this gets aboard a sub.
It's stated earlier in the thread, but allegedly a large chunk of the PLA has been infected from being used earlier. Atm PLA stopped all major group training drills, and non essential activity.
 
Add Detroit to the list.


Between uranium leaks in the water, industrial leaks on the highways, and the usual Detroit level of "safety" thanks to upstanding urban gentlemen, it can't get much worse (but it will)

let’s be honest with ourselves. An Outbreak of the Black Plague would only improve Detroit property values at this point.
 
Chen Qiushi's mother is claiming that she has lost contact with him after he said he was going to the Fangcang death camp. Qiushi is the amateur reporter who had been making videos out of a hotel room, talking about what doctors/patients had been telling him.

 
The fact that this forum which has a high concentration of autism with the combination of staying indoors. Means that this community is the Madagascar of infectious disease. Congrats, if shit hits the fan many of us can maybe get meaningful employment and own property. :optimistic:

Chen Qiushi's mother is claiming that she has lost contact with him after he said he was going to the Fangcang death camp. Qiushi is the amateur reporter who had been making videos out of a hotel room, talking about what doctors/patients had been telling him.


Chen Qiushi's already dead, your post should be about how his mom disappeared and this is the last known video of her.
 
A few people have remarked on the lack of infected kiwis. I have a stat on that, which is that approximately 167k would have to be infected before it is likely that a kiwi would be. Obviously most of the cases are in China, with an assumed disproportionate lack of Chinese kiwis, so the real figure is likely to be far far higher. Hope that sets anyone's mind at rest :)

Let’s be honest, the first one to get it will be Mr. Tickles.
 
The fact that this forum which has a high concentration of autism with the combination of staying indoors. Means that this community is the Madagascar of infectious disease. Congrats, if shit hits the fan many of us can maybe get meaningful employment and own property. :optimistic:
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Does Coronavirus is well known for killing people by symptoms that closely resemble being shot 2 times by a shotgun to the back of the head?
The hospital did 3 hours of CPR on his corpse so the party propaganda could "debunk" online rumors of his death, saying that he was still under emergency care. 3 hours of CPR can do that to your corpse.
 
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I don't think this was posted but it's a patient from a converted hotel "hospital". She is confirming what is already been said, no water, no bathrooms, no medicine.

















Chen Qiushi's mother is claiming that she has lost contact with him after he said he was going to the Fangcang death camp. Qiushi is the amateur reporter who had been making videos out of a hotel room, talking about what doctors/patients had been telling him.

 
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