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Is there a betting pool, because I'm putting my marker on 8-12% of the global population biting it.
That would be fairly grim - that is temporary social collapse levels.
1918 flu took out 3-5% depending on whose figures you believe. The Black Death took out about a third of Europe although it was patchy and some places had well over half die. Some of the introduced pathogens in the new world conquests killed 90% plus of certain tribes and groups. Further back, stuff like the plague of Athens etc we don't really know but it seems to have been bad. I’ve seen figures for the Justinian plague that are 40%, but really who knows? Certainly there are pathogens out there that are capable of reducing naive populations by roughly half.
Death rates are going to depend on infectivity, kill rate but also very much on how a country responds and how the world as a whole decides to drop the open borders stuff. If this does create significant infection in the third world in particular then I think it’s going to be a different story to if it’s predominantly contained in China
Edited to add: bad things will be new centres of infection taking off in multiple countries. Good things will be small clusters only stamped out fast. I honestly have no idea how all this will pan out. Most of these things get squelched but one day, one of them won’t. Let’s hope we have luck and decent actions from government on our side this time.
 
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Lolcow Styx vlogged about the first death caused by Corona-chan in the US.

Am I the only one who agree with this Youtuber who commented on his vlog?

I love Styx, but his Wuflu videos are pretty much the same format.

"We have yet another hundred cases from yesterday."
"I will now be doing daily WuFlu updates."
"I have a new influx of normies watching my videos now."
"Don't panic, but be prepared, because your small town, etc, etc "
"Get your idonize salt."
*Clinks spoon, pets cat*


Jim is better for the updates, just because he can post actual videos and sources and tweet endlessly about his love hate relationship with Eugene.
 
Lolcow Styx vlogged about the first death caused by Corona-chan in the US.

Am I the only one who agree with this Youtuber who commented on his vlog?
Both are fairly similar. Both are things we need scientists to prepare for and counter. Both are things western countries are writing laws and protocols to counter and which require cooperation from the civilian population as the situation worsens. And in both cases if our politicians would stop fucking around and start financing the labs that are trying to fix them and taking the measures necessary to thwart them (closing the frontiers for the virus, financing the infrastructure needed for reduction of CO2 be it through plants or GMOs for climate change) we probably wouldn't need to worry even half as much. Difference is the virus is more immediate, but we also have more known ways to counter it. Personally, I think both cases require the population to remain calm but informed to faccilitate remediation. But of course calm and informed is exactly how politicians DON'T want you to be. Fuck those bastards so hard.
 
The CCP doesn't seem to realize that they have no idea what they are doing. They are clustering people together. Mixing maybes, or just the sniffles with confirmed cases. This is 18th Century Plague Hospitals. The best thing they could have done is send Every one home. Quarantine in your home with your immediate family. Task some of the responders to act as well wrapped care providers and food delivery teams. Each home gets a wellness check morning and afternoon. Set of Vitals, etc. Access what if any meds are needed. Have delivery team drop them off, move on. Only those needing major intervention. High flow O2 or Ventilator or IV therapy get transported to the Hospital.

The way you get something like this to burn itself out is you stop feeding it bodies. Minimize peoples interactions. Not pile everyone up together in one big room.

Yes, but that would be common sense. Not gonna happen. Winnie the Pooh will be zen while his honey pot grows rotten amid forceful attempts at reestablishing feng shui.
 
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Funny how the MSM & PC LEFT Go Batshit Crazy About the Potential Danger to People via "Climate Change" and Yet a Virus KILLING People Now is No Big Deal ?
Am I the only one who agree with this Youtuber who commented on his vlog?
The answer is pretty simple. Climate Change is already well tuned to suit the needs of the party.
Corona-chan however is mainly dangerous to Democratic strongholds and the only way to fight against it goes hard against globalist truths.

So the only remaining alternative is to announce that everything is fine, it's an overstated threat and the real danger is orange man and his alt right goons going against poor China.
 
The answer is pretty simple. Climate Change is already well tuned to suit the needs of the party.
Corona-chan however is mainly dangerous to Democratic strongholds and the only way to fight against it goes hard against globalist truths.

So the only remaining alternative is to announce that everything is fine, it's an overstated threat and the real danger is orange man and his alt right goons going against poor China.
My nightmares are filled with eco-loons using bio weapons to 'fight polluters'.
The eco propaganda is reaching that point.
 
Indian here.
I work as a doctor(specifically a radiologist) and I heard some unsubstantiated rumors that we(India) might send some doctors and medical aid to Japan idk if thats true. Situation here is fine, we have no more confirmed cases apart the 3 cases in south india. Rice is selling at prices higher and higher now : ( Govt. is not playing games when it comes to this disease and all ships/planes coming from S.E Asia, Korea, Japan and Singapore will be screened. We are offering pakistan the oppurtunity to evacuate their citizens from wuhan, no word on that yet. I've seen some whatsapp vids of people lynching somone for eating dog meat. Nothing else to report on, those in East Asia stay safe.

Extra reading:
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ishankar-tells-rajya-sabha-1644278-2020-02-07



 
My nightmares are filled with eco-loons using bio weapons to 'fight polluters'.
The eco propaganda is reaching that point.
Won't happen. Eco-loons and left wing globalists have been blaming GMOs for everything and actively sabotaging biotech labs every chance they get, in great part because their pupeteers know damned well GMOs can fix climate change, and quickly too. And if climate changes thry don't get their propaganda tool. I assure you, no one hates them more than left wing biotechnologists, because once you learn enough about who is blocking power you realuze the so called lefties are your biggest roadblock. I even know two certain professors who have some really, REALLY radical left wing ideas, but precisely because of that, they keep bitching about how much they could do to help grow more resources and reduce pollution if the maintream left would just let them already. And I myself have admitted in the past that I was a god damned true and tried MARXIST when I was a teen, and I stopped being so because the more I learned about biology the more I realized how easily technology could fix the ills that ideology claims plague us, and who has been pulling the threads of this puppet. Eco-loons might try to go the neo-sanyasan rout of small attempts at plague dispersal, but if they had enough knowledge on how to make real bioweapons, they would stop being eco-loons, it really is that symple.
 
Now that it's out that China is attributing coronavirus deaths to everything else, do you think there'd be a reliable way to extrapolate how many deaths there are through the use of other numbers that China is reporting?

Like, considering most of the deaths from coronavirus has been from pneumonia; get a projected chart of pneumonia deaths in china, take out the projected numbers from the reported numbers, and then add some other esoteric value to take out whatever other extraneous variables then add it to the fatalities.

Then figure out how to quantify CCP censorship of the actual numbers as a multiplier and add it to the result.
 
Won't happen. Eco-loons and left wing globalists have been blaming GMOs for everything and actively sabotaging biotech labs every chance they get, in great part because their pupeteers know damned well GMOs can fix climate change, and quickly too. And if climate changes thry don't get their propaganda tool. I assure you, no one hates them more than left wing biotechnologists, because once you learn enough about who is blocking power you realuze the so called lefties are your biggest roadblock. I even know two certain professors who have some really, REALLY radical left wing ideas, but precisely because of that, they keep bitching about how much they could do to help grow more resources and reduce pollution if the maintream left would just let them already. And I myself have admitted in the past that I was a god damned true and tried MARXIST when I was a teen, and I stopped being so because the more I learned about biology the more I realized how easily technology could fix the ills that ideology claims plague us, and who has been pulling the threads of this puppet. Eco-loons might try to go the neo-sanyasan rout of small attempts at plague dispersal, but if they had enough knowledge on how to make real bioweapons, they would stop being eco-loons, it really is that symple.
True Believers avoid using rational thought when it comes to their religion and as it becomes easier to mod genes the bar to entry drops.

I mean there's no way a world class neurosurgeon would believe that humans and dinosaurs co-existed 6,000 years ago..........Right?
 
Now that it's out that China is attributing coronavirus deaths to everything else, do you think there'd be a reliable way to extrapolate how many deaths there are through the use of other numbers that China is reporting?

Like, considering most of the deaths from coronavirus has been from pneumonia; get a projected chart of pneumonia deaths in china, take out the projected numbers from the reported numbers, and then add some other esoteric value to take out whatever other extraneous variables then add it to the fatalities.

Then figure out how to quantify CCP censorship of the actual numbers as a multiplier and add it to the result.
General rule is to take the number of infected and deaths and multiply it by 15. Thats a true rough estimate.
 
In administrative news: The China Health Commission is temporarily calling this strain Novel Coronavirus Pneumonia (NCP/N.C.P.) -- we'll see how long it sticks.

Coronavirus Live Updates: An American in Wuhan Dies of the Virus

The death appeared to be the first of a U.S. citizen from the disease and prompted further questions about Beijing’s handling of the outbreak.



Medical workers on Friday at a convention center in Wuhan, China, that has been turned into a makeshift hospital.

Medical workers on Friday at a convention center in Wuhan, China, that has been turned into a makeshift hospital. via Reuters

An American in Wuhan has died from the coronavirus.
A United States citizen has died from the new coronavirus in Wuhan, China, in what appeared to be the first death of an American from the outbreak.
Few details about the American, who died on Thursday, were immediately available. The person was around 60 years old and died at Jinyintan Hospital in Wuhan, according to the United States Embassy in Beijing. Two people familiar with the matter said the person was a woman and had underlying health conditions.
“We offer our sincerest condolences to the family on their loss,” said a spokesman for the embassy. “Out of respect for the family’s privacy, we have no further comment.”
Japan said on Saturday that one of its citizens had died in a Wuhan hospital, from what was suspected to be a case of the coronavirus. But the Japanese Foreign Ministry said that based on information it had received from the Chinese authorities, it could not confirm whether the man, who was in his 60s, had been infected. The ministry said the cause of death was viral pneumonia.
Another Japanese citizen has also been diagnosed with the coronavirus, the authorities said on Saturday. A man in his 20s, among 198 people who returned from Wuhan by government-sponsored charter plane to Tokyo on Friday, was said to have tested positive for the virus and been hospitalized.
The Health Ministry said that the man had exhibited no symptoms when he boarded the flight in Wuhan, but was running a fever by the time he landed and had developed a mild case of pneumonia.

Lawyer who reported on conditions in Wuhan has gone missing, friends say.

A lawyer who had provided a rare glimpse into the dire conditions in Wuhan, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, has gone missing, his friends say, expressing fear for his safety.
The lawyer, Chen Qiushi, who is based in Beijing, had been reporting from Wuhan since the city went into lockdown last month as the authorities scrambled to contain the virus.
In a series of video blogs and footage posted on Twitter and sometimes on YouTube, which are both blocked in mainland China, Mr. Chen documented the plight of patients and the shortage of hospital supplies, and he warned of cross-infection in Wuhan’s mass quarantine sites.
A friend who is currently managing Mr. Chen’s Twitter account said contact had been lost with him on Thursday.
The friend, who requested anonymity to protect the account’s security, said Mr. Chen had recognized the risks that came with his journalistic work from the beginning and had shared his passwords with friends as a precaution, in case he would one day be detained.
Xu Xiaodong, a prominent mixed martial arts practitioner in China, also said on Friday that he had lost contact with Mr. Chen, his friend. In a video message on Friday, Mr. Xu said that Mr. Chen’s parents had been told that their son had been quarantined because he had visited several hospitals and risked contracting the virus.
“I’m announcing this because I’m scared! Because the next one could be me,” Mr. Xu tweeted on Friday.
Mr. Chen made headlines last summer when he visited Hong Kong to report on the city’s antigovernment demonstrations and challenged portrayals by Chinese state news media that the protesters were rioters.

The illness gets a name, temporarily.

The Chinese government has announced a temporary name for the illness caused by the coronavirus, ordering the local authorities and state news media to adopt it. In English, it will be called N.C.P., for novel coronavirus pneumonia, the national health commission said on Saturday.

The Coronavirus Outbreak
A final, official name will eventually be chosen by the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses. The organization has submitted a name to a scientific journal for publication and hopes to reveal it within days, the BBC reported.
 
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