Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

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Just like his western hero, Jordan Peterson, Chen went and fought a dystopian communist regime. His level of bravery is only matched by professor Jordan who told some trannies off under the threat of being fired or at most fined.

By the way, if you want to know where our intrepid Wuhan doctor is, I've got his location.

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The Petersons clearly have a boner for Russia. Mikhaila was named after Mikhail Gorbachev, and she married and had a kid with a Russian dude. (It looks like he's accompanied Jordan and Mikhaila on the trip to help navigate Moscow.) So anyway, I guess that boner extends to Russian detoxing methods. Who knows.

Their family seems weirdly chaotic, always teetering on the brink of disaster. It's either shit luck or a bit of attention-seeking melodrama.

And if Dooce is the poster child for this coma treatment, fuck no. She's an emotionally manipulative monster.
I do like her Lion Diet or whatever it's called and how wrong it is. An all meat or near all meat diet plays havoc with your intestinal track. Been over a year and I'm still trying to get my diet back on track and be able to eat red meat on a more regular bases without nearly killing over, or being dead by the time I'm 50.
 
I'm sad to see him in such a situation. I'm not going to engage in a dick-measuring contest of who can be the edgiest and coolest kid on the block by making fun of a guy who is obviously suffering.

I mean there is certainly plenty of bad things that you could accuse the guy of, but compared to the people on the other side of the aisle he looks like a fucking saint. I would much rather that disillusioned 20-somethings on the internet watch Jordan Peterson than whatever other political schlock youtube tries to recommend them. At least Peterson tells them to clean their rooms and not troon out like the basket of crazies over on the breadtube side of things. I would much prefer a world of people who took the advice of a quasi-religious frog and at least tried to take some responsibility for themselves to a world full of people that took the advice of ContraPoints and decided that the best course of action for their miserable lives was to chop their cocks off and become professional activists.
 
Failing to live up to ideals does not in itself make the ideals invalid. Some of the best philosophers in history used their own fucked up lives as the basis for explaining shit people should not do.
I think it exposes the unworkability of the ideals. There is certainly a lot to be said for using a shit life as a basis for what you shouldn’t do but I don’t think there’s much to be said for using a shit life to as the basis of what you should do.
 
As much as I disagree with a lot of what the guy says, kinda hits home for me. Got a brother who got addicted to Benzos, Xanax in particular and then Valium. Has major anxiety, triggered by some bad experience at a gig or some shit, nothing quite like seeing your brother having one of his attacks screaming and hyperventilating about having a heart attack to pull at heart strings. So to counter that barrel of bullshit, they stick him on benzos which now is a whole new barrel of fuckity fish, guy tried to go cold turkey only for me to find him having a seizure from the withdrawal, fun times.

Long winded point, guy might be whacko, but wouldn't wish drug hell on anyone. Drugs are bad mmkay?
 
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Hi everyone. It's been months since we've given an update on Jordan or my family's health and it's time for one so here it is. The last year has been extremely difficult for our family. Dad was put on a low dose of a benzodiazepine a few years ago for anxiety following an extremely severe autoimmune reaction to food. He took the medication as prescribed. Last April when my mom was diagnosed with terminal cancer, the dose of the medication was increased. It became apparent that he was suffering from both a physical dependency, and a paradoxical reaction to the medication. A paradoxical reaction means the drugs do the opposite of what they're supposed to. These reactions are rare, but not unheard of.

For the last eight months he's been an unbearable discomfort from this drug, made worse when trying to remove it, because of the additional withdrawal symptoms stemming from physical dependence. He experienced terrible akathisia, which is a condition where the person feels an incredible, endless, irresistible restlessness, bordering on panic, and an inability to sit still. The reaction made him suicidal. After several failed treatment attempts in North American hospitals, including attempts at tapering and micro tapering, we had to seek an emergency medical benzodiazepine detox, which we were only able to find in Russia. It was incredibly grueling, and was further complicated by severe pneumonia, which we've been told he developed in one of the previous hospitals. He's had to spend four weeks in the ICU in terrible shape, but with the help of some extremely competent and courageous doctors he survived.

The decision to bring him to Russia was made in extreme desperation when we couldn't find any better option. The uncertainty around his recovery has been one of the most difficult and scary experiences we've ever had. So, finally, dad is on the mend, even though there's a lot of physiological damage that he needs to recover from. He's improving and is off with the horrible medication. His sense of humor is back, he's smiling again for the first time in months, but he still has a long way to go to recover fully. It appears that we're going to get through this by the skin of our teeth.

So let me make a couple of things clear. Neither our family, nor the doctors here, believe that this is a case of psychological addiction. Benzodiazepine physical dependence, due to brain changes, can occur in a matter of weeks. It can be made even worse by paradoxical reactions that are difficult to diagnose and can be extremely dangerous. We've been told and hoped that Dad will recover fully, but it will take time, and he still has a ways to go. We're extremely lucky and grateful that he's alive. The next update will come from him directly. Thanks again for all the support.



Unrelated, but here's a song I like.
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Benzo-dependancy is something I wouldn't wish on anyone. It breaks my heart to hear that was his issue. Benzo-addiction is worse than heroin addiction. It's one of the worst addictions, period.
As much as I disagree with a lot of what the guy says, kinda hits home for me. Got a brother who got addicted to Benzos, Xanax in particular and then Valium. Has major anxiety, triggered by some bad experience at a gig or some shit, nothing quite like seeing your brother having one of his attacks screaming and hyperventilating about having a heart attack to pull at heart strings. So to counter that barrel of bullshit, they stick him on benzos which now is a whole new barrel of fuckity fish, guy tried to go cold turkey only for me to find him having a seizure from the withdrawal, fun times.

Long winded point, guy might be whacko, but wouldn't wish drug hell on anyone. Drugs are bad mmkay?
Same feelings. My heart breaks for your brother, as well. Benzos are terrible, and far to fucking overprescribed. We're going to get a benzo-crisis.
 
As close as I can tell it was Chapofags and other gay Berniebros
Chapocels and ironyleftists were seething about getting told to clean up their basement lodgings before LARPing the next communist revolution (entirely justified given for example the demographics of r/chapotraphouse) but unlike alt-righters who nicknamed him Juden Peterstein and called it a day they hide it all behind gay snark and even gayer irony.
They still do it too, essentially arguing that his daughter is a Munchie responsible for the current situation of her father.
 
I think it exposes the unworkability of the ideals. There is certainly a lot to be said for using a shit life as a basis for what you shouldn’t do but I don’t think there’s much to be said for using a shit life to as the basis of what you should do.

Was his live shit thou? He clearly couldn't handle it, but lots of people would kill for such "shitty life" that he had.

Question is also what caused these problems in the first place? Did he always struggle with his life? Or did it get out of control due to his over-working himself with all these speaking tours and debates?
 
The Benzo dependency which Peterson is experiencing I would have to say is rather common place, especially considering the aspect of his peak into the mainstream a few years back. It always seemed to me that Jordan had some quirks with his behavior, especially how he exhibited himself on certain livestreams I've watched him a couple of years back. Considering the amount of hate the man had received a crossed the board, especially with the unhinged on the extreme left and right sides of the spectrum politically.

It doesn't surprise me that he considered taking some type of prescribed medication to try to combat the stressful situation of being on blast 24/7. With the advent of his wife suffering with the inflection she is suffering with, probably was the thing that pushed him over the edge. Peterson has at least be honest about his experiences and probably should advocate against the use of these psychoactive substances to counter these type of issues. Maybe I don't agree with certain elements in his portfolio, but listening to his various lectures has helped me in a lot of ways. His bible series was interesting and I feel is a very refreshing perspective on Christianity as a whole.

Even though I disagree with the aspect of having to feverishly wash your gentiles as the quick fix for any and all problems in regards to the broken economic climate we are experiencing in modern day, with overly inflated cost of living expenses, and housing crisis. I do respect the notion of taking accountability, because it is a critical element in self-examination. Kinda makes me wish that he just stuck with being a professor and just lectured online periodically and didn't try to break into the mainstream with this "intellectual dark-web" sperg shit.

I hope that he makes a full recovery and uses his limited time with his wife out of the public limelight. If he does decide to return to public life, he should probably stick to his lectures, and try to avoid the whole trap of EXPOSING degenerate cross-dressers. Considering that anyone with a brain can see the rat-king nature of the alt-left and let them cannibalize themselves at this stage.
 
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Was his live shit thou? He clearly couldn't handle it, but lots of people would kill for such "shitty life" that he had.

I was speaking generally. Generally speaking I think the large amount of good in his life attests to the large amount of truth in his words and the bad in his life attests to what it is lacking.

Question is also what caused these problems in the first place? Did he always struggle with his life? Or did it get out of control due to his over-working himself with all these speaking tours and debates?

As I recall he claimed to have struggled deeply with substance abuse in his youth. The tours, fame, hatred, and family medical issues are also factors.

I think it would have taken a lot of strength of character for him to NOT have become addicted, especially as an atheist.
 
I think it would have taken a lot of strength of character for him to NOT have become addicted, especially as an atheist.
This isn't a "strength of character" thing. It's physical dependency. That's what makes it so fucking awful. Benzos hit the body in a way where it can't really function properly without them, after a certain point. It becomes literally necessary just for normal operation.
 
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I can't get over all the moral fagging over people making jokes and the other addicts that are coming to dump their personal stories here. Dealing with addicts fucking sucks and most people who have been around them have little sympathy left. They're black holes of negativity that drag everyone and everything down around them and I really believe that he's full of shit about what was actually going on. Addicts will always hide behind a prescription, if they have one, while leaving out that they're supplementing their supply from the streets because they ate their prescription in 3 days. I don't care how many neckbeards he got to wash their microdicks or tidy their rooms at mom's house. I can't be bothered to give a shit about yet another rich, preachy celebrity with drug problems. He's a shrink. He should fucking know better about benzos.

I do absolutely feel sorry for his family though.
 
I can't get over all the moral fagging over people making jokes and the other addicts that are coming to dump their personal stories here. Dealing with addicts fucking sucks and most people who have been around them have little sympathy left. They're black holes of negativity that drag everyone and everything down around them and I really believe that he's full of shit about what was actually going on. Addicts will always hide behind a prescription, if they have one, while leaving out that they're supplementing their supply from the streets because they ate their prescription in 3 days. I don't care how many neckbeards he got to wash their microdicks or tidy their rooms at mom's house. I can't be bothered to give a shit about yet another rich, preachy celebrity with drug problems. He's a shrink. He should fucking know better about benzos.

I do absolutely feel sorry for his family though.
Regardless of how anyone feels about his addiction, the whole Deciding to seek experimental russian treatment every doctor in the west/north america wouldn't do and winding up with brain damage is undeniably exceptional.
 
Codeine is a pretty weak opiate to be addicted to compared to the wacky american opiates they give out like oxys and percs
Considering the fucking amazing list we see, it's not unreasonable to think that she may have a street supply. Also, codeine is strong enough and an opiate. I don't know what the fuck she did to have it prescripted at such a young age for that's not a one off thing. I don't see her in any broken bone cast? Or perhaps it's for her "lower back pain"?
 
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