Manosphere Jordan Peterson - Internet Daddy Simulator, Post-modern Anti-postmodernist, Canadian Psychology Professor, Depressed, Got Hooked on Benzos

[Perspicacity]

He thought an all meat diet was a good idea.

It's clear his daughter didn't understand what she was reading. So what I take from this severe autoimmune response is that he went into anaphylaxis from a severe food allergy and developed severe anxiety because of it. The best treatment is to be proactive. Give the man an EpiPen and make sure he carried one around, benzos aren't going to help you if you another severe reaction anyway. I dunno is anyone familiar with this particular part of the story?

 

[Justtocheck]

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If I saw this without context I would assume she's a hypochondriac. Wouldn't surprise me if she learned it from her father. Then the whole "no rehab clinic in US is useful, let's go have a coma in Russia" would make sense. As their weird diet.

 

[Jeffrey Epstein]

While Benzo dependence and addiction are very real both physically and psychologically this story makes very little sense to me. Detox programs for benzos are neither rare nor experimental. It's generally suggested that you slowly taper down your dosage and gradually ease yourself off the drug. However cold turkey withdrawals though dangerous can be managed with proper medical supervision, it's fairly common with junkies who run out of the stuff. Usually some vomiting, sickness, and in more severe cases seizures. The hospital hopping and ending up in Russia for a treatment program is incredibly bizarre. A treatment program would also only be about 14 days too. There is obviously something else going here.

They're probably giving him those capsules that produce electric charges and stimulate your intestines. Only Russia uses those. Maybe he wants to try to be like Rasputin. Who knows.

 

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He even had his daughter be a patsy for him and make her roll out this bullshit story of extreme excuses.

Benzos are about the only thing she isn't on, so it's hardly out of character.

 

[Overly Serious]

This is actually really bad advice for the record. Updated information says while dealing with depression antidepressants should be a last resort. Lifestyle changes like change of diet, more outdoor activities, developing a better base of coping skills, talk or group therapy, etc. are better long term then starting off with medication. This is because many patients will rely purely on medication and not try further lifestyle changes and the risk of side effects can outweigh the benefits.

This doesn’t apply to things like schizophrenia or bipolar, etc. When it comes to pure depression many people experience situational depression rather then something like majot depressive disorder, which needs about two years of persistent symptoms to be diagnosed. It isn’t that he’s entirely wrong, it’s just a generalized statement with outdated information. Also when it comes to medication it’s generally psychiatric not psychological, so that can explain some of the miscommunication.

I don't know how outdated that information is but the video is from 2013 at the latest, possibly earlier. So it might be that he has revised his views since.

As to going to Russia, maybe they offer harsher treatments from which they are less easy to extract yourself. I can see to someone with a certain mindset that wanting to go the short, hard path would appeal. If you could say to someone: lock me in this room, here is the key, don't let me out for a month no backsies, you might have more faith in that than a softer approach. Yes, you anticpate agony, but if you believe it has a greater chance of success through taking away any choice but to get better, and if you're desperate, there's an appeal to that.

 

[Spatula]

I was reading about benzodiazepine side effects. This seems very alarming if this is the attempt in Russia they are after

The withdrawal symptoms of benzodiazepines include trouble sleeping, feelings of depression, and sweating.

If someone has become dependent on benzodiazepines, it is crucial that they do not suddenly stop therapy cold turkey.

Stopping cold turkey can result in tremors, muscle cramps, and life-threatening seizures. Therefore, it is important to taper off benzodiazepines slowly with professional help.

Benzodiazepines: Uses, types, side effects, and risks

Benzodiazepines are a class of drugs commonly prescribed to treat anxiety, insomnia, epilepsy, and alcohol dependence. However, benzodiazepines have considerable risks and can be fatal if abused. This article looks at the many types of these drugs, their beneficial uses, and the risks associated...

www.medicalnewstoday.com

 

[Judge Dredd]

The second reason I dislike him is his dismissive attitude towards struggling people (which is somewhat ironic now). He keeps telling young people to pull up their pants and clean house when he doesn't seem to realize generation z and the younger Millennials are actually quite put upon. They're facing a housing crisis with skyrocketing rent and wages that haven't moved in one decade. Neo-liberal policies (which have existed for quite sometime) which Jordan ''supports'' are further crippling social mobility. It is getting more and more impossible to move up classes on your own. Years ago a person born poor could work and put them selves through school eventually reaching the middle class. That is becoming impossible.

Any criticism of trickle down economics and the rising cost of living makes you a ''socialist'' in Kermit's books. ''Work harder''. He also focuses on the trannies as a sort of a deflection.

He's against the pull yourself up by your bootstraps types specifically because it doesn't work. He goes into it a bit when talking about IQ.

I don't know where you got his defense of trickle down economics from.

He mentions automation is wiping out the low end white collar jobs almost as fast as it's wiping out blue collar jobs, and mentions how self driving cars are going to put of lot of people out of work. In the lecture, he specifically says he doesn't know the answer to this, but someone is going to have to figure it out because it could become a huge problem.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Jordan Peterson built a career giving lots of advice about how one should live their life. The catch is lots of people expect the person preaching to follow their own advice.

Jordan was pushing a set of sensible life precepts people should follow, but decided for himself it was easier to deal with stress by gobbling lots of benzos instead.

He could man up, admit he fucked up and talk about how easy it is to become reliant on drugs in times of stress and difficulty...maybe even really do some good by facing his problem honestly. But he’s chosen this bizarre charade instead of honesty.

I really feel bad for his wife. While she’s facing dying of cancer her husband is traveling to Russia to find charlatans who will treat his addiction by not calling it addiction, while his daughter does her best PR spin. Meanwhile Tammy has to face cancer and dying. Does Jordan think she should call it bad cell overpopulation and pay doctors to tell her it can be treated with long naps in Romania and she will live another twenty years?

Who’s looking after the woman dying of cancer while Jordan and dear daughter pursue quack treatments that won’t hurt Jordan’s ego?

 

[Rekkington]

Sometimes it's not about actually getting it removed, it's about making a very public statement about the existence of the sites so he has something to point to when the media inevitably tries to use a deepfaked quote to libel him again.

As boomerbrained as it may be I do think there is a case to be made that hundreds of deepfake videos with a controversial public figure just saying "nigger nigger nigger gas the kikes race war now i fuck my daughter" with surprising realism could prove to be a problem later. Even as a regular square this whole deepfake shit seems troubling in the long term.

 

[THOTto]

I don't know how outdated that information is but the video is from 2013 at the latest, possibly earlier. So it might be that he has revised his views since

“Lifestyle medication” studies have been going on for years here’s something from 2014 while this focuses on using it alongside antidepressants I wanted to share it more for the citations which go back much further.

That being said this is only a few papers and it’s still being debated to this day. He’s entitled to his opinion, and a lot of it comes down on a patient by patient basis. I don’t know much about JP, just wanted to throw it out there since I know a lot of people respect his views. But going on these kinds of meds without absolute need to can really fuck up your brain chemistry.

All that aside regarding benzos, I’d be concerned about the potential insomnia risks. If you’ve been using them, opiates, and a few other ‘downers’ you get bounce back insomnia. This can really aggravate an already nasty withdrawal and potentially lead to psychosis, severe depressions or mania, etc. The side effects of withdrawal have their own risk factors that can cause long term distress. Regardless of how he chooses to go about it, I wouldn’t risk that shit on my worst enemy.

 

[Ningen]

You’re suggesting that Putin would go out of his way to kill a random American tourist. Not just that, but a well-off tourist bringing money because he needs medical aid, which is a relatively rare thing for Russia since the medical care there is usually ten miles away from top-notch, even for money.
I think Kermitson might be not the only one with a benzo dependency here.

The thing about Russian healthcare is that the authorities will allow you to do what you want as long as you have the money, this is why the first ever head transplant is going to take place in Russia and why drugs like Semax, Codeine (the drug used to make Krokodil) or Ephedrine (the drug used to make meth) are legal there.
That being said cantremembernothing's argument about Putin giving a fuck about Peterson is extremely retarded, why should Putin give a shit about an individual tourist no matter how well-off he is?
Putin manages stuff worth trillions of dollars, I doubt he gives a single flying fuck about the thousands of dollars Peterson is going to spend there, for him that money is like for you and me half a cent, come on. Get real.

 

[Never Scored]

Benzos are about the only thing she isn't on, so it's hardly out of character.
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Not surprising if true. I never met the child of an acedemic that wasn't a complete and total trainwreck.

 

[DarkestSydePhil]

self driving cars are going to put of lot of people out of work

It isn't important how many jobs it's going to get rid of, think of how many lives it'll save. Screw the unemployment rate, if this is the wrench that will tear the Automotive Insurance industry's cogs to shit, then I say go all in and deal with the mess later. It's worth it.

 

[RadicalCentrist]

At this point it would be more shocking if a shrink wasn't a complete wreck of a human bean

Let’s speak frankly

Holy shit you've been a junkie, drunk, and a degenerate gambler?

 

[murgatroid]

Fringe theory, I bet what actually happened was a toxic reaction to severe constipation from an extended purely meat diet. The Russians probably put him in an induced coma/anesthesia, gave him an enema and his ass exploded and when he wakes up they will give him a $20,000 bill.

 

[Blood Bath & Beyond]

Does this kill Peterson's career entirely? I can't decide. I feel like it could swing either way at this point, but there is a good chance that the people that formerly championed him might shy away because of all this and it gives ammo to the "regressive-left" to shit all over everything he has ever said and done, rationalizing it as "the drugs talking". For instance in my city there are quite a few weeble-wobblers that my friends and I have often referred to as mutants, people so zonked out on heroin or benzos that they neglect personal hygiene and fall asleep while standing up begging outside at traffic stops. Now that obviously isn't the case of every addicted individual, but it is probably what most people immediately think of when the discussion of addiction is brought up. Can't wait for the fan art.

 

[Absolutego]

As boomerbrained as it may be I do think there is a case to be made that hundreds of deepfake videos with a controversial public figure just saying "nigger nigger nigger gas the kikes race war now i fuck my daughter" with surprising realism could prove to be a problem later. Even as a regular square this whole deepfake shit seems troubling in the long term.

Exactly! Peterson's a lolcow but him not liking the vocaroos of copypasta we figuratively made him read isn't even in the top 10 reasons why. It's the dumbest thing to be upset with him over.

Does this kill Peterson's career entirely? I can't decide. I feel like it could swing either way at this point, but there is a good chance that the people that formerly championed him might shy away because of all this and it gives ammo to the "regressive-left" to shit all over everything he has ever said and done, rationalizing it as "the drugs talking". For instance in my city there are quite a few weeble-wobblers that my friends and I have often referred to as mutants, people so zonked out on heroin or benzos that they neglect personal hygiene and fall asleep while standing up begging outside at traffic stops. Now that obviously isn't the case of every addicted individual, but it is probably what most people immediately think of when the discussion of addiction is brought up. Can't wait for the fan art.

Isn't he tenured at U of Toronto? This might stop his celebrity but he'll always have his cult, and tenured professors are like roaches in terms of the long-term viability of their career.

 

[pwnest injun]

Can you expand on that? I'm not super well versed in him, I see frustration, but rage isn't the word I'd use.

Frustration is the echo of deep suppressed anger. When I see him get upset or even passionate, there's the surface thing, the trigger, but internally, there's the machinery of anger. After all, a trigger doesn't create an explosion, it merely sets off the charge. Either way, it probably won't matter what the root cause is if he wakes up tarded!

 

[Ashley Lynne Coulter]

Alright, so Jordan Peterson is Canadian. Is it still dangerous to travel to Russia?

 

[Marissa Moira]

JP is probably in a padded room bashing his face against a wall.

I can only imagine that he went to Russia of all places for a radical treatment.

I'd be careful badmouthing him while he's under temporary restraint.

Alright, so Jordan Peterson is Canadian. Is it still dangerous to travel to Russia?

You tell me