Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[BingBong]

Epidemiological and clinical characteristics of 99 cases of 2019 novel coronavirus pneumonia in Wuhan, China: a descriptive study

Coronavirus patient speaks out:

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Epidemiological and clinical characteristics of 99 cases of 2019 novel coronavirus pneumonia in Wuhan, China: a descriptive study

In terms of laboratory tests, the absolute value of lymphocytes in most patients was reduced. This result suggests that 2019-nCoV might mainly act on lymphocytes, especially T lymphocytes, as does SARS-CoV. Virus particles spread through the respiratory mucosa and infect other cells, induce a cytokine storm in the body, generate a series of immune responses, and cause changes in peripheral white blood cells and immune cells such as lymphocytes. Some patients progressed rapidly with ARDS and septic shock, which was eventually followed by multiple organ failure. Therefore, early identification and timely treatment of critical cases is of crucial importance. Use of intravenous immunoglobulin is recommended to enhance the ability of anti-infection for severely ill patients and steroids (methylprednisolone 1–2 mg/kg per day) are recommended for patients with ARDS, for as short a duration of treatment as possible. Some studies suggest that a substantial decrease in the total number of lymphocytes indicates that coronavirus consumes many immune cells and inhibits the body’s cellular immune function. Damage to T lymphocytes might be an important factor leading to exacerbations of patients. The low absolute value of lymphocytes could be used as a reference index in the diagnosis of new coronavirus infections in the clinic.

Oh, IVIg?

https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/chi...plasma-products-potentially-tainted-with-hiv/

 

[Traummaschine]

So for someone with a whole lot of international travel over the next few weeks is this still a worry? Because it feels like this whole thing is turning out to be not too scary outside of some countries getting a bit draconian with confining people. Or is it premature to conclude this isn't going to be Spanish Flu 2: Viral Boogaloo?

I think we'll see it start spreading more seriously outside china soon, and only then will we see how bad it really is. While it probably won't be spanish flu 2.0 (unless it mutates into something worse), it's clearly something to be taken seriously.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

You know what sucks about all this. I bought a trip to Asia and now I am fucked.

 

[pull over dat ass too fat]

Did pangolins spread the China coronavirus to people?

Genetic sequences of viruses isolated from the scaly animals are 99% similar to that of the circulating virus — but the work is yet to be formally published.

www.nature.com

Virus could actually have originated from pangolins. The "could" part is important to take with this because it's not published yet, but this particular article is from a very good source.

I really fucking hope it's from pangolins so people will stop eating these cute pinecones

please, please be pangolins.

 

[Not Really Here]

You know what sucks about all this. I bought a trip to Asia and now I am fucked.

"Travel insurance? That's just a way to jew you out of money".

 

[Return of the Freaker]

How Fear Distorts Our Thinking About the Coronavirus

The solution isn’t to try to think more carefully. It’s to trust the experts.

Opinion | How Fear Distorts Our Thinking About the Coronavirus

The solution isn’t to try to think more carefully. It’s to trust the experts.

www.nytimes.com

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I don't really give a shit about the article. I'm just in awe of subtitle: "Don't think, Trust your betters."

How Fear Distorts Our Thinking About Debt

The solution isn’t to try to budget more carefully. It’s to consume product and get excited for next products

 

[Mike Hunt]

I expect we'll hear in the coming week or two if this doesn't die down reports trickling in about how Wuhan is facing 'minor supply problems' but Winne the Pooh totally has everything under control but the west needs to donate supplies because reasons.

China won't be doing the begging. They'll have some toadie organization do that for them indirectly, so they can save face. WHO is already rattling the can for money. Pretty sure most of those will go straight to China with zero accountability on where that money goes.

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

"Travel insurance? That's just a way to jew you out of money".
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Read the small print. Pretty much everything is excluded. Tried to get insurance to pay out for my canceled flight to France some time ago - fuckers showed me the clause about strikes not being covered. I am 99% sure they'll try to file cancellation due to a pandemic as "force majeure" or some shit. So unless you paid for higher tier, that specifically includes it, you're out of luck.

 

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new cases in the UK, and this time it's hit the capital.

full news stream

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Well, Kung flu gets my vote. Also we can call the brave folks trying to contain the virus Kung Flu Fighters

Someone needs to make a parody film about how the heroine Corona-chan cleaned the streets of Wuhan of corrupt officials and animal torturing streetshitters titled "Kung Flury."

Xi warned officials that efforts to stop virus could hurt economy: sources

Chinese President Xi Jinping warned top officials last week that efforts to cont...

www.reuters.com

Lmao Xi the pooh shat his pants over the economy demands the officials to ease the sanction/ quarantine prepare for wu flu export plus xi summoned several officials in Beijing to be thrown under the buss i mean explain themselves.

Coronavirus case confirmed in California, takes U.S. total to 13

The 13th case of coronavirus in the United States was detected in California in ...

www.reuters.com

Btw California galaxy brain tested 4 patient turned negative all released then one turned out positive . Now CDC hunts down potentially diseased. I guess everyone wishes that California finally get diseased til every fag/ gift giver/ soy boy dies is going to come true . Get your pop corns boys .




The news that keep on coming are beyond parody . I don't know if i should laugh or cry .

Seems them Dems in cali have decided to make Xi look less awful by causing an outbreak in america. Pity they didn't realize they already look too bad for anyone to think Xi looks good compared with their sorry asses. Fucking hell. Trump 2020 people, even if you hate the guy, this is the alternative.

If facilitating communication is the WHO's job then they should be lined against the wall and shot for gross incompetence. The amount of intentional misinformation taken as gospel is beyond anything in the last half century (at the very least). It's been 3 weeks since the story broke out and we keep getting new information that were in all due likelihood known to the Chinese authorities a month ago. There is no excuse except economic reasons, and if that's the thing that keeps the WHO from functioning then the whole organization is obsolete and should be disbanded.

Oh I'm not saying they're any good at it all I'm daying that's why we pay them. I very much celebrated Trump taking an axe to the bastard's funding. Should've cut it entirely IMHO. Anything good they could do is already covered by the ISO, FDA and other far more reliable orgs. And the naming shit no one cares about nowadays 'cause whoever discovers the fucking pathogen already uses a name for it anyway so people just run with it. You know like nCoV-19. Its not a pretty name but it makes sense and follows the typical pattern for viri and proteins. COVID-19 on the other hand,I'm telling ya, it's HALL-9k with autism that's what that is. And you can't blame it on any pattern 'cause it follows none. The WHO really needs to just die already. Its needed it for a while now.

He's probably getting "algorithm'd" out, so he's trying something to get around it

And then the fuck did WHO ask for 675M dollaridoos for while youtube over here's already doing all the censoring for them?!

https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-n...0-intl-hnk/h_3e6957b38dd51cbb62b0d55c07b8a42a trump proposed 50 per cent cut to who basically telling them to suck chinas dick also to other health organizations that i had no idea were getting money or existing . Reddit is already losing their colective shit over it

BASED TRUMP! I swear he's been the best surprise I've gotten when it comed to politics. Who would fucking think he would turn out to be the only american president since WW2 to both keep his promises and actually take strong actions to fixed the damned country? God damn. I swear every time I hear about his next executive action its always something good.

A co-worker has a theory that WHO is sucking China's proverbial dick so the Chinks will allow their workers in, who will then have enough freedom to eventually reveal how bad things really are once they're out.

Yeah nah. WHO employees have already been in china many times. They never said anything about their horrid hygiene and healthcare, and they even praised their TCM. I'm not fucking kidding about that last part the WHO quite literally proclaimed TCM, the practice that crossed this outbreaks into humans to begin with, and which involves hunting down endangered species to eat concoctions made out of their cocks, is better than western medicine. They have no ulterior motive to suck chink cock they just like doing it.

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First US evacuee from China to have coronavirus is mistakenly released from hospital

The first US evacuee from China confirmed to have the coronavirus was mistakenly released from a San Diego hospital as a result of a botched test result that showed he was not infected.

nypost.com

Again, californian Dems doing Trump's campaigning for him.

Not even conspiracy theorists have theorized that the disease doesn't actually exist. That's heartening.

Yeah, yeah they have. They say its a racist western ploy to attack communism. Welcome to the internet no line is too low for some fucks.

How Fear Distorts Our Thinking About the Coronavirus

The solution isn’t to try to think more carefully. It’s to trust the experts.

Opinion | How Fear Distorts Our Thinking About the Coronavirus

The solution isn’t to try to think more carefully. It’s to trust the experts.

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | How Fear Distorts Our Thinking About the Coronavirus - The …

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I don't really give a shit about the article. I'm just in awe of subtitle: "Don't think, Trust your betters."

Well, well….. 2 new confirmed cases in Germany - again, the same cluster:

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany on Tuesday confirmed two more cases of coronavirus in the southern state of Bavaria, raising the overall number of known cases in Europe's most populous country to 16.
The two new cases of coronavirus are related to infections among staff at a company in the Starnberg district west of Munich, the Bavarian health ministry said.
Car supplier Webasto said last month a Chinese employee had tested positive for the virus upon returning to China following a visit to the headquarters near Munich. The employee apparently infected several German colleagues during the visit.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-02-11/germany-confirms-two-more-cases-of-coronavirus-raising-overall-number-to-16

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You know this line of thinking wouldn't be so bad... if the so called experts weren't so bad.

This happens a lot in other fields. One misconception people have is thinking conspiracy theorists are stupid. More often than not flat earthers and other looneys ard relatively intelligent, but they put that intelligence into concocting excuses for their beliefs as opposed to following the evidence where it leads you. Overthink it enough and you can make a sufficient web of bullshit to handle any ammount of stupidity so long as you ignore the evidence. Hence why science is EMPIRICAL, one thing they teach you eaely on is nature isn't fucking normal don't try to reason with it accept what the data shows then try to explain it, not against it. Or "don't overthink it, look at the data".

But the data over here is all fragrantly censored and filled with bullshit. People have ample reason to mistrust the "experts" since they KEEP PRAISING XI IN THE FACE OF OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO HIS FUCKUP. This shit doesn't apply here, at all, it's a god damned fallacy from authority and the authority is a god damned clown!

I've been saying from the start to trust the actual studies we have, prepare for that and remain calm. But these people and the WHO keep muddying the field. It's their god damned fault people cannot trust the experts to begin with. Fuck them. They reap what they sow. And what they reap is Trump's all american dick comming straight for their funds!

THIS. You've heard my yaps about the web of support services people depend on, and how little margin China has in providing food to the people.

People in China have been, frankly, abused by the CCP throughout this entire thing. Every time a video of the police locking a family in, or beating up someone without a mask, people futilely begging for help for a loved one, or showing conditions in the death houses comes out, that perception is reinforced.

For some reason, the thought just popped into my head that China is already asking certain countries for help with food via the backchannel, or at least making large purchases of food overseas, very quietly. Xi knows once food riots start he will have one hell of a mess, maybe even an existential threat to the CCP. No food! My child is hungry! Streets full of garbage! Rats all over! My family's sick and no one will help! Wonder what the straw will be that breaks the CCP's back.

Oh no the food's already in china. It's their national trade that broke not their international, which means no amount of outside help will fix it unless they're ready to let the EU airdrop grain like they do with africa. So really the chinks are so much more fucked than it seems. The entire country has already broken beyond the point of no return and only extreme third world rescue measures could keep it at an even close to acceptable state. Which XI will never agree to because Poobear's an idiot.

Have any of them caught onto this point and wrote a hit piece about "clown world" and similar ideas being a vast Russian/Koch/Neo-Nazi conspiracy to erode trust in the institutions so people start rejecting your reality and substituting their own.

They did that a lot back when the joker was coming out. Which funnily enough just drove the point of the film home for many people. Fucking idiots.

For the record I'm a leftie myself. Though that might be due to how many crazy right wing extremists I know (and I'm talking people who literally proclaim that spain should've remained a fascist dictatorship and franco's biggest mistake was he should've aided germany bomb the brits before the americans got involved kinda fucking looneybins.) But that's precisely why I hate the american left so fucking much. Because I know they're misusing the ideology to fit their horrifying purposes. God damned authoritarian, incompetent, corrupt, propagandistic nutjobs they are. I joined the left to help the poor. Not to turn the state into a massive homeless shelter where EMT's have to risk their lifes fighting drug addicts just to bring some Karen her fucking crazy pills so she can give them to the cat because she tooootally doesn't need them. If even after the complete collapse that is cali right now voters keep voting left there really is no fucking hope for them and america is better off cutting that shit and pushing it to the ocean. Even andalusians over here voted right for the first time since spain is a democracy last ellections. And good for them! I sure hate the spanish right for reasons stated above but the PSOE had driven the autonomous community into the ground, it was about damned time to clean house. And its the same in cali. No amount of ideology should trump common sense... but of course this is cali. They had none to begin with. Fucking hell. If I were trump I'd be asking mexico if it wants a new state to annex so I can build a wall around them.

 

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Not defending or attacking the position, but this isn't a single issue:

- PRC isn't "real communism" (objectively true)
- "real communism" isn't possible, and is at best a ludicrous pipe dream, making the above point moot

Not sure what's more annoying - communist shills selling a fantasy, or people arguing as though the fantasy is any kind of credible threat. It won't ever be.

"It wasn't real communism" means one thing and one thing only. "When I become a Marxist dictator, my enlightened dictatorship will be pure Marxism and will work, not like all those other times it's been tried before."

As for it being a credible threat, it doesn't matter if it is or isn't. It's the idiots trying to make it work that you have to watch out for. Whether or not it's "real communism" is irrelevant when the Antifa and DSA true believers start dropping pipe bombs because "Bernie was totally robbed, yo, bash the fash!!!"

 

[LetThemEatCake]

More on the new UK case:

First coronavirus case 'is confirmed in London'

The first case of the killer coronavirus has been confirmed in London, with a woman who flew into the capital from China currently being treated Guy's and St Thomas' hospital in south London.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The first case of the killer coronavirus has been confirmed in London.

The victim, a woman, was diagnosed this afternoon and is currently being treated for the illness at Guy's and St Thomas' hospital in south London.

She is thought to have flown into the UK from China a few days ago, with officials confirming she caught the virus in China.

Professor Chris Whitty, Chief Medical Officer for England confirmed the case: 'One further patient in England has tested positive for novel coronavirus (COVID-19), bringing the total number of cases in the UK to nine.

'This virus was passed on in China and the patient has now been transferred to a specialist NHS centre at Guy's and St Thomas' in London.'

The case could trigger panic in the capital, with public health officials expected to try and hunt down anyone the infected person may have been in contact with.

Earlier, two British prisoners including a 'drug dealer' who were sent home from Thailand were found not to have coronavirus.

Mark Rumble, 31, from Oxfordshire, was sent to HMP Bullingdon, close to Bicester, on January 27 and faces a series of charges of conspiracy to supply class A and B drugs. He is due in court later this month and is expected to deny the charges.

Thailand's ministry claimed Mr Rumble had no symptoms of the never-before-seen virus when he was tested before flying back to the UK.

And it said he passed all of the standard health checks prisoners go through before they are extradited, claiming he wouldn't have been allowed to travel had he failed.

Officials in Thailand, the first country outside of China to record a case on January 13, claim there have been no cases among the 300,000 prisoners in the country.

 

[RodgerDodger]

So what are the read between the lines takeaways so far?

- Britain is fucked. And is the uncontrolled breach into the Western World. Corona-Chan is already embedded in her Health Car industry and providers. Plus it was just injected into their prison population. Why the fuck would you extradite some twit from Thailand right now? The famed British NIH is about to be tested. Multiple Health Care workers in the UK are now the carriers/spreaders.

- We talk about the Bullshit coming out of China. Thailand is worse. They’ve been ignoring this for weeks and lying to everyone. The British guy was in a Thai prison. He caught it in a Thai prison. That means it’s everywhere. Thailand needs to be on the “accept no travelers, cancel all flights” list. It needed to be there a week ago. Figure Malaysia Indonesia and the Philippines are in a similar state. And in case nobody caught it, just traveling to or through Singapore seems to be a repeating vector.

- Japan is trying hard but may be losing control. The Health Official that caught it from inspecting the plague ship is worrying. More details of that need to be known. What protection if any was he using?

- Russian Women are both stupid and idiotically self centered, and surprisingly badass.

- California Health Officials will be the death of us all. But that’s something we’ve seen coming for years. I remind everyone, it’s not too late to blow up the Rocky Mountain tunnels passes and Bomb the West Coast airports. Failing that operation “Lex Luthor” remains a viable option.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Corona Chan still has no interest in Ohio. Don't blame her. Guess our strip clubs didn't pay enough.

 

[Rausch]

Always interesting to see the shill lines taken in normie comments sections.

Spoiler: China shilling

"Send gibs!"

This shill may be new to the job as he posted two variants of the same message twice, one after the other. Shamefur dispray.

"China is actually doing a great job!"

Looks like this shill has been stung by the "soulless" meme. Also uses the "China has a lot of people, unlike little Britain, and therefore you are wrong" China-sized brain argument.

"Only China has the true facts!"

Seems that the FT is not fake enough fake news for China.

"It's no worse than the flu!"

So they're still going with that one. The other shill underneath has the great take that you can plan to go to China without a vaccination, but you should get one before you visit the US.

"Here are some more stats about lots of people dying from things that are not the Coronavirus"

Interesting how embarrassing stats about Chinese dying in road accidents and immediately becoming /pol/ webms are now being promoted by shills to prove how not-serious the Coronavirus is.

 

[AMHOLIO]

China won't be doing the begging. They'll have some toadie organization do that for them indirectly, so they can save face. WHO is already rattling the can for money. Pretty sure most of those will go straight to China with zero accountability on where that money goes.

Im thinking if it isnt pocketed by party members itll go straight to propping up the economy so Xi and pals can delay the inevitable.

Edit: @RodgerDodger we should have closed off Cali assoon as it made purposely AIDS a misdemeanor tbh

 

[NyQuilninja]

Dis bitch

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Revolutions need hunger, that is true, but they also need guns. As long as PLA stands by the CCP, the chinese citizens have zero changes of succesful uprising. However, if the heads of the PLA start to think that the Mandate of Heaven has expired, it might indeed be time for some Warlord Era: Chinese Boogaloo once again.

That would make one hell of a strategy game. Balance propoganda, military and commerce with mega corps. The holy alliance of Intel will sweep the Nvidia heretics!

More seriously, in a sane country the army would have already had massive rebellions over the treatment of the populace (especially for soldiers from Wuhan), but this is China. The likely scenario for a citizen rebellion is the Chinese people zerg rushing an army base for supplies and beating every soldier to death. With the next likely scenario of China bombing the place and massacring the citizens.

 

[RodgerDodger]

That would make one hell of a strategy game. Balance propoganda, military and commerce with mega corps. The holy alliance of Intel will sweep the Nvidia heretics!

More seriously, in a sane country the army would have already had massive rebellions over the treatment of the populace (especially for soldiers from Wuhan), but this is China. The likely scenario for a citizen rebellion is the Chinese people zerg rushing an army base for supplies and beating every soldier to death. With the next likely scenario of China bombing the place and massacring the citizens.

The Chinese Rebellion or next revolution is happening in front of us, as each sub unit of China severs travel to the rest, and sets an us (here) vs them (there) dynamic. Even the Beijing Toadie Governor of Hong Kong has called for cutting off all connections to the mainland. Once those are cut and the municipality or region is functioning independently, restablishing the previous tight control will be difficult.