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Over 1,700 frontline medics infected with coronavirus in China, presenting new crisis for the government -CNN
Believe me, I don't like CNN any more than the rest of you, but this a decent summary of many of the problems facing Chinese medical staff, even if the narrative is closely controlled and aligned with state media reporting.

(CNN)Ning Zhu, a nurse in Wuhan, the central Chinese city at the heart of a deadly coronavirus outbreak, is restless.
Instead of helping on the frontlines, she has been under self-quarantine at home for weeks, after a chest scan on January 26 revealed that she had a suspected case of the novel Coronavirus.

Zhu was told to wait for a nucleic acid test that would provide the final verdict, but it never came.
"Right now, it's really a problem. Our hospital already has more than 100 people who are quarantined at home," she told CNN over the phone. An additional 30 medical workers have been confirmed to have the virus, she said.


"If the tests are fine, we can go back to work. I actually don't have any symptoms, there's just a slight problem with my CT scan, it seems there's a bit of infection," she said.
Zhu estimates that of the 500 medical staff at the hospital, more than 130 may have been stricken by the virus, which has so far infected more than 60,000 globally. She declined to publicize the name of her hospital and asked to use a pseudonym as she was not authorized to speak to the media.

A doctor puts on the isolation outfit before entering the negative-pressure isolation ward in Jinyintan Hospital in Wuhan.

The situation at her hospital is not unique. A nurse from the Wuhan Central Hospital said on Weibo, China's Twitter-like platform, that around 150 colleagues at her hospital have been confirmed or suspected to be infected -- including herself.

The nurse, who had been under self-quarantine at home since being infected last month, was finally admitted into the hospital she works at for treatment on Tuesday.
"The (in-patient) floor I live on is basically filled with colleagues from my hospital," she wrote in a post on Wednesday. "These are mostly double or triple rooms, with my colleagues' names and bed numbers clearly written in black and white on the doors."

Every time fellow medics came to check on her, she said, she would hold her breath. "I'm afraid the virus inside my body will come out and infect these colleagues who are still standing fast on the frontline," she wrote.

On Friday, it was revealed that 1,716 healthcare workers nationwide had been infected by the virus, six of whom had died, according to China's National Health Commission (NHC). Nearly 90% (87.5%) of those medics came from Hubei province, of which Wuhan is the capital.

More than a thousand infected in Wuhan

Health care workers have long faced a high risk of infection during major outbreaks, including the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) epidemic that swept China from late 2002 to 2003. In Wuhan, the epicenter of the noval corronavirus outbreak, however, that risk is now exacerbated by a dire shortage of medical resources to cope with the
influx of patients, as well as the government's belated warning of the high-infection rate.

In Wuhan alone, 1,102 medical workers have been infected, accounting for 73% of infections in the province and 64% nationwide.

The city of 11 million people has 398 hospitals and nearly 6,000 community clinics. However, the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission has designated nine hospitals to treat coronavirus cases, as well as an additional 61 hospitals whose outpatient clinics will receive patients with fever -- believed to be a common symptom of the pneumonia-like illness.

In some of these designated hospitals, medical staff have made up a significant percentage of infected patients.

For example, at Zhongnan Hospital, one of the 61 hospitals dealing with cases, 40 health care workers had been infected, accounting for nearly 30% of the 138 coronavirus patients admitted by the hospital from January 1 to 28, according to a research paper published in the Journal of the American Medical Association last week.

Peng Zhiyong, director of acute medicine at the Zhongnan Hospital who co-authored the paper, told Chinese investigative news magazine Caixin that "the ratio is already very small compared with other hospitals."

At the Wuhan No.7 Hospital, another of the 61 facilities, two thirds of the ICU staff were infected due to shortage of medical resources, Peng said, citing his deputy director who was sent to assist that hospital, according to the report.

The Wuhan government has acknowledged the shortage of medical supplies, such as specialist N95 respiratory masks, goggles and protective suits. Hospitals across Wuhan have pleaded for help repeatedly on social media, calling for more donations of the protective gear, which are vital in protecting frontline staff from catching the virus from patients.

On Weibo, a post by the state-run People's Daily showed medical personnel in a Wuhan hospital creating protective gear out of plastic trash bags.

Apart from the lack of masks, gloves and protective suits, medical workers have also been stretched to their limits by the crushing workload. Cross-infections among hospital staff are thought to have taken place in tea rooms and meeting areas, after long grueling shifts, according to David Hui Shu-cheong, a respiratory expert at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, citing doctors who were sent to assist hospitals in Wuhan from Beijing.

On Friday, the NHC vowed to "tangibly improve the work conditions of frontline medical workers" and better protect their rights and interests.
"I am full with respect and gratitude towards all medical workers at the frontlines, but what we really need to do is to give them more care and solicitude," said the commission's deputy director Zeng Yixin.

Human-to-human transmission

The seed of the problem, however, had been sown early in the crisis -- even before medical resources started running out.

The government's initial delay in releasing information about the outbreak meant medical staff were unaware of the potential dangers during its early stages. Wuhan Mayor Zhou Xianwang admitted on CCTV late last month that his government did not disclose information on the coronavirus "in a timely fashion."

Chinese authorities repeatedly stressed in the early days of the outbreak that no health care workers were infected -- an important sign for possible person-to-person transmission used to suggest that the virus was not that contagious.

Li Wenliang, a Wuhan doctor who died from the coronavirus, had tried to warn others early on in the outbreak but was silenced and punished by police for "spreading rumors." The suppression of Li, along with other medics who tried to sound the alarm on the virus, has likely led to unnecessary cross-infections inside hospitals, as well as in families and communities.

China's Supreme Court said in a commentary on January 28 that had people listened to Li's warnings they could have "adopted measures such as wearing masks, strict disinfection and avoiding going to the wildlife market."

Instead unaware of the health risks, many doctors and nurses were only wearing disposable masks when treating potential coronavirus patients at the beginning of the outbreak. Ivan Hung, chief of the Infectious Diseases Division at Hong Kong University, said those masks alone are "definitely inadequate" in fending off the virus.

"Basically, medical staff should be wearing N95 masks, goggles or face shields, and protective suits not only in isolation wards, but also at emergency departments and medical wards -- basically anywhere that one might get in touch with coronavirus patients," he said.

Li, 34, was an ophthalmologist at the Wuhan Central Hospital. He later died after contracting the virus unwittingly from a patient on January 10, sparking an outpouring of grief and outrage, as well as calls for freedom of speech. "I was wondering why (the government's) official notices were still saying there was no human-to-human transmission, and there were no healthcare workers infected," Li said in a post on Weibo.

Li Wenliang, a doctor who was punished by police for trying to warn others of the coronavirus early on in the outbreak, has died from the virus he contracted from a patient.
According to a study of the first 425 confirmed cases of the coronavirus in Wuhan published in the New England Journal of Medicine last month, seven health care workers in Wuhan had already shown symptoms of infection between January 1 and 10.

But on January 11, the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission was still insisting that "as of now, no infection among medical staff has been found," reiterating that there had been "no clear evidence for human-to-human transmission."

The World Health Organization also said in its statements on January 14 and 17 that China had not reported any cases of infection among health care workers.
https://www.cnn.com/specials/asia/coronavirus-outbreak-intl-hnk
It was not until January 20, when Zhong Nanshan, a government-appointed respiratory expert, declared on state broadcaster CCTV that the new coronavirus could spread from person-to-person, that the infection of medical workers was revealed.

As evidence for human transmission, Zhong, an 83-year-old doctor known for fighting the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) outbreak 17 years ago, disclosed that 14 medical workers in a hospital had been infected by one patient.

The next day, the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission admitted in a statement that as of January 21, "a total of 15 health care workers have been diagnosed with the new coronavirus," and another one was suspected to have been infected, too. One of them was in serious condition, the statement added.

Since then, however, the commission has not announced any updates on the number of confirmed or suspected cases among the city's hospital staff, even as Chinese media have published multiple reports offering a glimpse into the true scale of infections in hospitals.

Spread of the problem

The infection of medical workers is not only happening at the designated Wuhan hospitals, but is also being seen at other facilities and cities across China.

In the Wuhan Mental Health Center, the largest psychiatric hospital in Hubei province which is not supposed to treat coronavirus patients, 50 patients and 30 medical staff have been diagnosed with the novel coronavirus after being cross-infected inside the hospital, the state-run China Newsweek announced last week, citing multiple sources at the hospital.

When reached for comment on the cases, the hospital's director told China Newsweek: "We now have discipline requirements and cannot accept phone interviews anymore," the report said.

Meanwhile, the virus has spread to every region in mainland China, including the far western frontier of Xinjiang and the remote region of Tibet. Authorities in Beijing and the provinces of Guangxi, Jiangxi and Hainan have all reported individual cases of infection among hospital staff, amounting to two dozens people.

By Tuesday, a fund set up by ByteDance, the Beijing-based startup behind popular short video platform TikTok, to help health care workers stricken by the coronavirus had already sponsored 190 infected medics, including five who have died, the company said in a statement to CNN.

Before Friday, the NHC had not provided a tally of infected medical workers. It finally released the numbers more than two months into the outbreak, at an inter-agency briefing arranged by the State Council on the safety of medical workers.

During SARS, the Chinese authorities appeared to become more forthright about the infection of medical staff following an initial attempt to cover-up the outbreak. By mid February 2003, the Guangdong provincial government had announced that 105 of the 305 SARS cases found in the province were medical workers. The Ministry of Health, the predecessor of the National Health Commission, also included the number of health care workers in its briefings of infection numbers, with breakdowns by provinces.

By May 30, 2003, a total of 966 medical workers had been infected, accounting for 18% of the 5328 cases across China, according to the ministry.

For now, the infection rate of health care workers appears to be much lower than during SARS. The 1,716 infected medical staff as of Tuesday only account for 3.8% of all confirmed cases, the NHC said.

Hung, the professor at Hong Kong University, said he was confident that frontline medical workers are now equipped with better protective gear than those produced 17 years ago during the SARS epidemic. He also believed that they are being churned out in factories to meet the demand.

"The main problem is what happened early on in the outbreak, which had repercussions that have lasted till today," he said, referring to the cross-infections in ill-prepared hospitals."

"When you have no idea what you're facing, there's bound to be negligence," he said.

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So, you know how North Korea was totally going to do a "Christmas Surprise?" There are some high level South Korean Intelligence and Think-Tank officials that think that its cancellation was due to the Coronavirus.

Make of that what you will.
If that is true, then Thank you Corona-Chan, and very cool Dr. Purr.!

Thanks. Interesting article. Would guess the actual numbers of infected/dead are at least twice what the CCP admits. Things still out of control in China. There was never even a chance of getting things under control in North Korea. The CCP fucked themselves in China. Maybe early detection plus common sense plus aggressive action would have given China a better chance to control the outbreak. But we're talking CCP, of course.

Wonder what the numbers of sick and dead are in NK. Like in China, the only people with access to even semi-decent medical care in NK are the top leadership and their families.
 
Thanks. Interesting article. Would guess the actual numbers of infected/dead are at least twice what the CCP admits. Things still out of control in China. There was never even a chance of getting things under control in North Korea. The CCP fucked themselves in China. Maybe early detection plus common sense plus aggressive action would have given China a better chance to control the outbreak. But we're talking CCP, of course.

Wonder what the numbers of sick and dead are in NK. Like in China, the only people with access to even semi-decent medical care in NK are the top leadership and their families.

The problem both in NK and in China is it showed up at the doorstep of their healthcare system without any warning. This meant the first thing compromised, and likely the greatest source of spread was the healthcare facilities themselves. And that is always the real danger with epidemic. That it infects and spreads via the healthcare providers before being detected identified and warnings and protocols established. The rest of the world had enough time to sound the alert and instill an extra layer of paranoia and watchfulness in the health providers.

While NK admits to nothing we have gotten reports that it first showed up in 2 NK hospitals near the Chinese border. With a number of staff infected. It’s not like anybody in China was gonna give Kim a heads up.
 
Welp prob fine because I’m white, but still out in the country anyways. I like my get away place anyways and the SO takes care of the vegetables and I take care of stockpiling/freezing deer. Already have a big ass gate that even leads up here so if we see someone boom headshot. I know it isn’t an issue yet but fuck it. Didn’t buy btc for silkroad and cash out to not buy a Shit load of land and make the boomers that live close to me think I’m a drug dealer.

also got the still running(can be used for water) and an actual dedicated water purification system that can make 5 gallons a day. Plenty of powdered bleach and about 10k rounds for each gun and I’ve got a lot of fucking guns.
Picked up a shockwave for cheap and mini slugs.Have my dedicated slug gun for hunting, reload station, shitloads of powder and bullets. Honestly not really doing too much different than when we come out here just decided fuck it let’s get out of the city before shit might get bad and we’ve been itching from the country. And have tons of precursors growing/stockpiled for emergency meds (that are legal). Worse case I can throw some poppies in the shine and make some landrum and get fucked up before going back to the city. Fuck I love the country air.

now if only my BFF had the same luxury of coming up early. Oh well. Got the backup coms tested so we’re fine.I really don’t expect anything except for a nice vacation from already being loaded lmfao. Also, anyone looking to reload 6.5 is an amazing round and the fucking box has the reload instructions on it. Seriously better than 300win, 308, and various other rounds. Do have the two 50BMGs just incase, but I wish I got my 500blackout upper sooner.

Call it a prepper bunker but it isn’t it’s fucking paradise being in the country IMO. Even not expecting shit to get bad around here but might as well start everything up. Also I fucking love making all different types of shine. Even have an e100 engine that I run in my truck up here. Welp time to get day drunk and go shooting. thankgod for burger land.

Edit: just bomb China already and do them a favor.
Sounds like you got shit covered, but I'm gonna leave this here just in case anyone else out in the country needs a spare set of hands.

I have tons of experience homesteading, including 2 years entirely off the grid, I'm experienced in cob building and building and running a still, can build a rocket stove, cook some bad ass meals on open fires/hearths/wood stoves, excellent gardener/wild food forager/seed saver. Great at food preservation and general household shit (I can sew/weave/knit/crochet). I have beeking experience, including building kenyan top bar hives. I admittedly am not so great hunting with a gun but do ok with a bow or snares and make some good fish traps. So HMU if anyone would like some help out in your country abode, I'm real chill.

I also I make some killer mead.
 
Women doctors and nurses are having to resort to cling wrap as Wuhan has run out of tampons. Male officials refused to let donated tampons past the barrier into the city.
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They also outright refused them once they had been delivered on site at another hospital.
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Women doctors and nurses are having to resort to cling wrap as Wuhan has run out of tampons. Male officials refused to let donated tampons past the barrier into the city.
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They also outright refused them once they had been delivered on site at another hospital.
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What's the point of that? Masks I can understand others hoarding, but tampons seems like they're being petty as hell or that they're being really ignorant.
 
What's the point of that? Masks I can understand others hoarding, but tampons seems like they're being petty as hell or that they're being really ignorant.
Also, cling wrap? Use rags you dumb bitches.

It's weird because the Chinese are like one generation away from being peasant dirt farmers and they have somehow forgotten this.
 
You are operating from a very bad piece of data. Or rather one of the few good pieces of data, that you are looking at the wrong way. That 2.9-4.1% Mortality Rate is for Patients that develop a severe pneumonia and require hospitalization and advanced treatment. For most people catching it you have a mild to bad flu. Those that get it bad enough to require advanced medical care are less than 20% of the infected. Probably closer to 10-15%. The 2.9-4.1% Mortality rate is 4.15 of that 10-15% of serious cases. And those 10-15% serious cases so far seem to be 80%+ already compromised patients. The Elderly and Infirm. Etc.

The 2.9-4.1% is a good number. It's a solid well based study of two of the Wuhan Hospitals done by outside people with boots on the ground. So no chinese bullshit. But they were just looking at the most serious cases. Typically those that required an ICU. 2.9-4.15 of those died. Once advanced pneumonia sets in, thats when you are looking at the ~ 4% death rate. It's not a general mortality rate against all infected.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what's called "survivot bias". Here's two bits of trivia for you to explain why this is a thing:

First the one Lindibeige used: in ww1 armies started introducing helmets. The Brodie helmet was what the british set up for. What many don't know is thay when the brodie was first implemented there were multiple british officers, specially amongst medical staff, that became convinced that it was in fact harming the soldiers. How could this be? Well, these officers noticed a sharp spike in the number of head injuries, specially concussions, the soldiers were suffering. These doubts however were quickly quashed by the command as the statistics made the issue apparent. You see, quite simply, the reason for the spike in head injuries was due to the fact that the soldiers wearing the brodie were SURVIVING head trauma that was previously lethal to them. Quite literally, survivor bias.

Now for the one application everyone mentions, planes! Back on the early days of plane warfare people weren't sure what parts of the plane to armor. As the planes did a lot of close air support so the question became where to reinforce to ensure maximum safety without adding so much weight that the plane crashes. Well, engineers came up with a sollution, they looked at the planes that had gone to war, looked where they had been hit, made a statistical analysis, and proceeded to add plating to the parts that DIDN'T have any bullet holes. Why? Well simple. Planes tend to get hit everywhere since soldiers don't know where to shoot. So they figured if the plane came back filled with holes those angles didn't result in lethal damage to the plane, and the areas that hadn't been hit weren't so because in fact the planes that got hit there quite simply never came back.

This phenomenom matters a lot in science, it's one of the most common sources of bias. So learn this shit, it'll help you in life.

What's the point of that? Masks I can understand others hoarding, but tampons seems like they're being petty as hell or that they're being really ignorant.

Wouldn't surprise me if they thought putting one up each nostril works as a mask. I've seen idiots try that over here for priming miniatures. For the record, it doesn't work.
 
What's the point of that? Masks I can understand others hoarding, but tampons seems like they're being petty as hell or that they're being really ignorant.
Probably some weird TCM belief who the fuck knows
The problem both in NK and in China is it showed up at the doorstep of their healthcare system without any warning. This meant the first thing compromised, and likely the greatest source of spread was the healthcare facilities themselves. And that is always the real danger with epidemic. That it infects and spreads via the healthcare providers before being detected identified and warnings and protocols established. The rest of the world had enough time to sound the alert and instill an extra layer of paranoia and watchfulness in the health providers.
They were warned, they simply decided to throw the doctor doing the warning in jail (which likely killed him).
 
Women doctors and nurses are having to resort to cling wrap as Wuhan has run out of tampons. Male officials refused to let donated tampons past the barrier into the city.
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They also outright refused them once they had been delivered on site at another hospital.
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I mean it's China. Seems like they could just do it in a bowl, and serve it as an "exotic soup."
 
I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt over the clingwrap thing and say they're using rags/wadded up toilet paper etc with clingfilm underneath wrapped around the crotch of the underwear to protect it. That's the only confguration I can think of that would make sense, kind of imitating a modern sanitary pad. Clingfilm alone on underwear would just mean the menstrual fluid would pool and leak out of the underwear and just feel revolting and chafe to hell with all the fluid hanging about on the skin as well as the sweat being unable to be wicked away from the skin normally; now if they're clingfilming their actual bodies to try to stop fluid leaking out I don't know what to say except they're going to get themselves some infections they won't like and it probably won't work anyway given clingwrap isn't made for moving human bodies and skin.

Anyway:

Dr. Campbell is starting to get a bit critical of the handling of the cruise ship in Yokohama. Thinks the ongoing infection rates show it's time to start get the passengers off the ship and quarantined away from each other as he suspects the disease is just spreading through the shp's aircon by now.

 
What's the point of that? Masks I can understand others hoarding, but tampons seems like they're being petty as hell or that they're being really ignorant.
The only explanation I can think of is that they no longer have the facilities to deal with used tampons and don't want them being left in the open to rot. I don't know how cling wrap or rags or whatever negate the issue, apart from rags theoretically being washable.
 
If you go back and read carefully you will see I recommended exactly that for exactly those reasons. It's basic FEMA disaster preparedness shit. You aren't some super-special autist for knowing that.



The reason I'm coming on so strong is because before I spoke up we a bunch of innawoods prepper survivalist-type sperging and nobody really challenging it. Here's a sample.

I had to google it to make sure it wasn't some obscure copypasta. No, it's real.
Just because I’m loaded and have a cabin you think I’m freaking out? I’m posting from a hot tub getting tipsy off some good whiskey. I come from a rural place, got lucky more or less, and was able to buy a bunch of land/cabin not far from my main house. Also, since I don’t spend all the time up here have to preserve food from freezing, to canning, and making spirits.

also, if you’re not into guns 10k rounds per gun isn’t that much. There’s a reason they sell ammo by 10k amount. When you find it on a good deal? Yank that shit up never know when a random shortage might happen. Between plinking (so and myself), practicing really long distance sniping, hunting, and reloading it’s not an insane amount of ammo.

Hell, my old boss had a sim setup except he was insane rich. He kept a min of 100k rounds for his guns and owned legal full auto weapons that he loved to shoot.I’m going on a tangent. Anyways, the so and I “vacation” up here regardless. Just figured fuck it nothing will probably happen, but if it does I’d rather be up here.

Worse case (with nothing happening) We’re the outdoors types (hence this property) and had a good time. It isn’t likewe’re unibomber levels secluded. Just ya know try to be as self sufficient as possible. Also love shooting guns. Didn’t think I was really stirring fear by starting with nothing will probably happen. Anyways, thanks for setting the record straight and prices low on e100 engines.
 
Just because I’m loaded and have a cabin you think I’m freaking out? I’m posting from a hot tub getting tipsy off some good whiskey. I come from a rural place, got lucky more or less, and was able to buy a bunch of land/cabin not far from my main house. Also, since I don’t spend all the time up here have to preserve food from freezing, to canning, and making spirits.

also, if you’re not into guns 10k rounds per gun isn’t that much. There’s a reason they sell ammo by 10k amount. When you find it on a good deal? Yank that shit up never know when a random shortage might happen. Between plinking (so and myself), practicing really long distance sniping, hunting, and reloading it’s not an insane amount of ammo.

Hell, my old boss had a sim setup except he was insane rich. He kept a min of 100k rounds for his guns and owned legal full auto weapons that he loved to shoot.I’m going on a tangent. Anyways, the so and I “vacation” up here regardless. Just figured fuck it nothing will probably happen, but if it does I’d rather be up here.

Worse case (with nothing happening) We’re the outdoors types (hence this property) and had a good time. It isn’t likewe’re unibomber levels secluded. Just ya know try to be as self sufficient as possible. Also love shooting guns. Didn’t think I was really stirring fear by starting with nothing will probably happen. Anyways, thanks for setting the record straight and prices low on e100 engines.
people ITT should be quarantined for sneezing, coughing, fever, and boomerposting
 
It could be worse:
This could have taken off instead:

And you could be riding this out in one of these stacked twenty to an apartment. Complete with kitchen toilet:
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The only explanation I can think of is that they no longer have the facilities to deal with used tampons and don't want them being left in the open to rot. I don't know how cling wrap or rags or whatever negate the issue, apart from rags theoretically being washable.
I think we can be fairly certain the medical centers have incinerators for biological wastes.

It's all likely because some bean-counter hasn't applied his rubber stamp. Navigating Chinese bureaucracies has been hell for thousands of years.
 
It could be worse:
This could have taken off instead:
It potentially still could. If municipal sanitation services aren't functioning, garbage heaped on city streets or in apartment courtyards won't just bring crows and gulls, but rats as well.
 
It could be worse:
This could have taken off instead:

And you could be riding this out in one of these stacked twenty to an apartment. Complete with kitchen toilet:
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OK, the tiny living space I can just about deal with. Keep possessions low, spend lots of time outside the house.

The fucking toilet in the kitchen on the other hand? Triggered. Especially with the lid up. Imagine, every time it flushes, that lovely spray of faecal particles and germy spray coating everything.

HK really has some appalling conditions still for the lowest income people, eh? Even in Japan there'd be regs against putting that toilet there and your average Japanese would faint looking at that set-up - they live in tiny spaces a lot of the time, but they're clean and not retarded. There would be a shared toilet out in the corridor or something in Japan and for places with no showers/bath, a nearby sento or bathhouse. HK clearly gives no fucks though. Filth reigns, all hygiene lessons ignored. Must be the Chinaman in them.
 
1% of 1.4 billion is still 14 million plague carriers going to your airports and spitting on your country's elevator buttons. You don't have to be especially low on the socio-economic ladder to come into contact with a plague in China when you see their public transit system and how they treat their public properties (i.e. spitting, shitting, and pissing all over public property)

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Can somebody seriously explain this to me? Like anyone who actually is Chinese or understands DEY CULCHA?

I mean does someone who does this think it's a wacky prank? A way to get back at the CCP or strike at the masses of teeming millions that you feel like a dot in? Is it like an Ass Pennies method of exerting influence and control over an uncontrollable world?



The thumbnails on the channel tell me everything i need to ignore all of their content

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The Fed created AOC! Trust my opinion on things because!!!!

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Can somebody seriously explain this to me? Like anyone who actually is Chinese or understands DEY CULCHA?

I've already said this a few times, but general consensus is: Floridachink.

The people reviewing the tape are recording it because they cannot fathom this dude's autism, either. Spitting on elevator buttons is not general Chinaman behavior. If the dude had let an angry old Chinese grandma or overworked Chinaman hillbilly seen him do this, he'd likely have gotten a bamboo stick across the face. Shit like this happens all the time in the US, too.
 
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