Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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You know what it is...common sense and proper medicine are taking a back seat to politics. Wonder how many innocent men, women, and children will pay with their lives because of politics' triumph. Just as fucked up as a football bat.
They're not trying to save them, they just want them to die where they won't infect anyone else.
 
In Chile, people already deal with problems related to H1N1 and even pneumonia during autumn and winter days every year. If the virus arrives in Huasoland (especially in March, when upcoming protests will start and people who'll come back from China), the whole country might be horribly fucked.


Also:
Corona-chan fucked 95% of Juan Fernández Island's lobster exports up. Article is in spanish: https://www.publimetro.cl/cl/notici...izo-exportacion-langostas-juan-fernandez.html

Archive: http://archive.li/E5UQQ
Whoa! Know we get blueberries from Chile these days. Had Chilean cherries last month - very good. Wonder if the exporters could do a deal with Costco (major US warehouse store chain) and have them flown up here. I know Costco sells frozen lobster tails and sometimes claws. May not be that hard to sell live lobsters.
 
I still believe this is more a issue because of how the Chinese Government handled it and how fucking corrupt and incompetent there local officials are.

I mean if it hits Europe hard then people will die, but i don't think it will be the same kind of disaster like it is in China.
I think it's less incompetence and more of a "the messenger doesn't want be shot."

The Central Communist Party holds all the real power in China. Local officials are puppets. If they fall out of favor with the CCP then they lose their jobs and positions of power. The reason the virus spread is because no one wanted to be the bearer of bad news (considering this was near elections and no one wanted the virus to impact their good standings and their accomplishments). The local officials were also gag orders from the CCP 100% to suppress news about the virus during it's early stages to preserve that sweet sweet socialist "Social Harmony"
 
Not quite correct as to the timing of the bombs' readiness. First test of weapon in July 1945. President Truman got the word during the Potsdam Conference. But if that bomb had been ready in January 45, sure as shit Hitler would have gotten the instant sunshine.

On another thing, still cannot understand why the Chinese are placing all those beds in gyms, etc., as they are. Didn't work real well for us in 1918/early 1919 and WILL! NOT! WORK! NOW! Once again, the local CCP is showing the CCP at higher levels how hard they have been working. But if you just make things worse then what have you done? Even putting people head-to-feet would help a little. Easy to do. I still want to know the conditions in the existing death houses. Believe they are already close to charnel houses. Just can't see the powers that be making sure there is water, toilets, clean linen on beds (here in the USA would expect to see that linen changed daily), enough food and medicine.

You know what it is...common sense and proper medicine are taking a back seat to politics. Wonder how many innocent men, women, and children will pay with their lives because of politics' triumph. Just as fucked up as a football bat.
The problem with China is that they never had a industrial revolution. There are a lot growing pains that other nations had to suffer through to get the rules and safety regulations that we have today. China got rich and starting buying things they felt they deserved as a developed country but have no idea what the fuck they are doing. It's like watching problems the west had in the 1800's.
 
Saw a chink wearing an allergen mask (one of those cotton ones with filters in it) at the store today. They're low-key freaking out island-wide lmao.
warm weather makes it harder for the virus to survive but considering that hawaii gets so much vacation traffic from east asia, it's probably already taken a small foothold there at least in honolulu, you know, where all those japanese people have their weddings near the royal hawaiian. most of you will be fine but i wonder if south oahu might look a little ghost-town-y in a few weeks' time as i'm sure it'll be somewhat of a vector of international spread. it'll be interesting to see. i hope your income isn't fixed to the east asian tourism industry.
 
Should've dropped them anyway. Would've been much cheaper than cutting the damned city in two like they did. Plus fucking krauts tried to take over the world twice and as soon as they got their independence back they've started round 3. Really at this rate would've been better to make the point beforehand. But don't worry both us spaniards are going independent again and their italian friends are sure to change sides as soon as shit gets real, and I'm quite certain france has already prepped the white flag, so really, ww3 won't last long. Fucking idiots have yet to master the art of choosing a single god damned ally that is even close to being competent. Fucking turkey is their least awful warbuddy, and man is that a low bar.

As enjoyable as listening to the sizzle of Nazis circa 1945 in Berlin would have been, I honestly believe after Hitler Final Solution'd himself in the mouth that we should have rounded up whatever remained of the Wehrmacht and rolled with them towards Moscow before making Red Square have record high temperatures.

Nah fam don't worry didn't you hear they sent TCM experts to those "hospitals" I'm sure that'll totally change things around and save everyone, China's got this one perfectly, superpower 2020.

I fucking know TCM stands for "Traditional Chinese Medicine", but fuck me if I can't stop reading "Turner Classic Movies" every time somebody here says it.

Would probably be more effective sending them a bunch of old James Stewart films to watch than sending a bunch of old cooks peddling pangolin penises or whatever it is they're doing.
 
warm weather makes it harder for the virus to survive but considering that hawaii gets so much vacation traffic from east asia, it's probably already taken a small foothold there at least in honolulu, you know, where all those japanese people have their weddings near the royal hawaiian. most of you will be fine but i wonder if south oahu might look a little ghost-town-y in a few weeks' time as i'm sure it'll be somewhat of a vector of international spread. it'll be interesting to see. i hope your income isn't fixed to the east asian tourism industry.
According to the CDC, the virus can live on inorganic materials for weeks. I remember Waikiki being crowded all year round when I was living there for a time. A drink here, a handshake there, wipe your mouth with a napkin, bus boy picks up napkin, wipes eyes, etc etc. As you pointed out, tourist volume might keep this thing kicking there.
 
The World Health Organization is telling people to LEAVE CHINA ALONE.

Don't close borders, all those Chinese students spend a lot each year going from place to place.

Automotive superstud Andrew Coley says, if you're not eating in Chinatown, you're missing out!

Ah, the CCP propaganda is thick tonight. Makes me feel like press can be bought cheap. Meanwhile, we got a runner.
don't forget about about Corbyn and the labour party in the UK telling people to eat chinese food
 
If you listen to lefties they claim the only reason the bombs were dropped was to intimidate Russia.

That’s one of those persistent myths. Most often voiced as “If we hadn’t nuked Japan Russia would have invaded the Northern Japanese home islands. In 1945 Russia had no capacity to project it’s army over water to perform a heavily opposed invasion landing. For much the same reason that Hitler did not invade Britain. He lacked the capacity to do so. The ability to conduct a successful opposed amphibious landing was at the time pretty much wholly unique to the Americans and Brits. And few ever realize just how good they were at it. Everyone remembers D-Day as this singular event. And somehow misses that it wasn’t in fact singular. That the Americans, Brits and Aussies did it again, 9 days later on the opposite side of the world. In a battle that was even more important to the end of the war. Saipan.

Yeah. If we had the bomb ready in January 1945 Germany would have gotten a couple.

Dropping the atomic bomb saved maybe millions of lives, both Allied and Japanese. We were preparing for invasions of the Japanese home islands. Very heavy casualties expected. So many Purple Heart medals were prepared in advance that we are still using them today.

Would say this about Imperial Japan. Earlier in the 20th Century they treated POWs quite well. They captured Russians during the 1905 Russo-Japanese War. Japan was on our side in WWI. Captured Germans when they overran German possessions in Asia. Those men were taken to Japan and treated almost as honored guests.

Couple of very interesting articles..

https://www.nippon.com/en/in-depth/...i-life-for-german-pows-in-japanese-camps.html



It was in the 1930's, as the "Bushido" movement grew, that the Japanese attitude toward POWs and conquered people changed so radically.

Even most Japanese historians will admit that while the atomic bombs were truly horrific. Their use did forestall what was about to become one of history’s worst famines. Nimitz and MacArthur had been heavily seeding the Western Pacific with massive stockpiles of food and supplies to support the planned invasion. The day the first US advance teams landed in Japan they were confronted with the looming disaster. Those stockpiled food supplies were immediately dispatched into Japan to attempt to stave off the collapse of the food system.
 
It is so tough to gauge severity here. With the Chinese government being a bunch of incompetent heavy-handed liars and the Chinese people, knowing this, panicking and resorting to goofy alternative measures. Then the government adopts them because it makes it look like they are doing something. Which increases severity. Then the cycle continues.

This is the place where they had a famine caused by forcing peasant farmers to smelt pig iron instead of growing food and their response was to kill all the sparrows because they "are public animals of capitalism". Then the locusts came. It got really stupid.
Seven of my grandmother's relatives starved to death during the great famine.
 
So I just got off the phone with my suppliers for my research. I work with clinical stuff and human fluid that can become aersolized and my work involves vulnerable populations. All masks, respirators and cartridges are on back-order until mid fucking march. And this is a supplier which you can't buy from unless you're: a big university or a research lab. 3M is having a massively hard time keeping up with demand even in professional industries that need this shit. Get this: Even fucking basic protective lab goggles aren't available until the first week of march. Which means I'm going to have a hard time keeping my people in the field doing sample collection protected. I hope our paperwork gets delayed so I can give them the proper PPE.

Whatever the case, NCovid is scaring the ever living shit out of everyone in the US.
 
So I just got off the phone with my suppliers for my research. I work with clinical stuff and human fluid that can become aersolized and my work involves vulnerable populations. All masks, respirators and cartridges are on back-order until mid fucking march. And this is a supplier which you can't buy from unless you're: a big university or a research lab. 3M is having a massively hard time keeping up with demand even in professional industries that need this shit. Get this: Even fucking basic protective lab goggles aren't available until the first week of march. Which means I'm going to have a hard time keeping my people in the field doing sample collection protected. I hope our paperwork gets delayed so I can give them the proper PPE.

Whatever the case, NCovid is scaring the ever living shit out of everyone in the US.
Yes, this situation is also present in India. I work as a Radiologist but several of my coworkers who work as pharmacists or ICU doctors have been told that there is a lack of 3M masks and latex gloves. Considering I work at a big hospital I can only imagine how smaller private clinics are faring in India. PPE is desperately needed. Ironically we can make them we just don't have the resources(guess where they come from)
 
As enjoyable as listening to the sizzle of Nazis circa 1945 in Berlin would have been, I honestly believe after Hitler Final Solution'd himself in the mouth that we should have rounded up whatever remained of the Wehrmacht and rolled with them towards Moscow before making Red Square have record high temperatures.



I fucking know TCM stands for "Traditional Chinese Medicine", but fuck me if I can't stop reading "Turner Classic Movies" every time somebody here says it.

Would probably be more effective sending them a bunch of old James Stewart films to watch than sending a bunch of old cooks peddling pangolin penises or whatever it is they're doing.
Same short circuit here. There are moments where I still wonder why the Bureau of Land Management was protesting and the British Broadcast Corporation became a fetish.
 
The World Health Organization is telling people to LEAVE CHINA ALONE.

Don't close borders, all those Chinese students spend a lot each year going from place to place.

Automotive superstud Andrew Coley says, if you're not eating in Chinatown, you're missing out!

Ah, the CCP propaganda is thick tonight. Makes me feel like press can be bought cheap. Meanwhile, we got a runner.

The WHO focusing on muh racism instead of ending this pandemic is one of the most shameful and cowardly acts we’ve seen in this whole debacle. Incapable of actually doing anything other than kissing ass and hectoring people for racism, WHO has no real reason to exist in 2020.
 
Yes, this situation is also present in India. I work as a Radiologist but several of my coworkers who work as pharmacists or ICU doctors have been told that there is a lack of 3M masks and latex gloves. Considering I work at a big hospital I can only imagine how smaller private clinics are faring in India. PPE is desperately needed. Ironically we can make them we just don't have the resources(guess where they come from)

I'm also under suspicion that a lot of people are using the climate to use POs for their labs and unis and then just flipping them on amazon or ebay for exorbitant prices, which is just exacerbating the situation. I'm kind of lucky in that I've got a shitty respirator that kind of fits and like 3 boxes of surgical masks left over. I can't even imagine what its like in India and other countries where supplies are tight. I'm also lucky that my research protocols aren't yet optimized so I can afford to wait a little bit. But once they are actually optimized, I have to get on trucking and I need PPE. I'm just going to devote my budget for the next two weeks for PPE so I can at least reserve some stuff before everything disappears again. The glove situation is also worrying, I haven't yet checked my nitrile supply. I might just have to stock up there too.

And 3M is the best. I considered using Honeywell, but even they're out of everything.
 
The WHO focusing on muh racism instead of ending this pandemic is one of the most shameful and cowardly acts we’ve seen in this whole debacle. Incapable of actually doing anything other than kissing ass and hectoring people for racism, WHO has no real reason to exist in 2020.
what really floors me is how obvious they are about it, they aren't even trying to hide that they are bought and owned by china. at least pretend to be neutral instead of constantly promoting and complementing china over literally anything.
 
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