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[JosephStalin]

This is quite incredible.

(PDF) The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus

PDF | The 2019-nCoV has caused an epidemic of 28,060 laboratory-confirmed infections in human including 564 deaths in China by February 6, 2020. Two... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

web.archive.org

Paper out of a Chinese institute, or am I reading that wrong? They are basically saying it’s from the lab near the market. Interesting that it’s from within China - I assume that CCP has control over such publications? So CCP has allowed this to be published...

If it's Chinese, take it with a bushel of salt. The CCP's on an offensive to demonstrate to the world that they haven't fucked this up beyond all recall. Saw a thing on Yahoo this morning where the WHO was sucking the CCP's dick.

Sorry, CCP, the scales have come off the eyes of many, many people all over the world. Emperor Xi STILL has no clothes, and he never will.

Read a short, but interesting book earlier this afternoon. Titled Xi Jinping: The Backlash, a Lowy Institute Paper. Started by talking about Xi's hard-nosed actions once taking office, actions intended to ensure he would have no real opposition. One very notable point - for every high-level CCP person kicked out of the CCP and incarcerated due to corruption, there are many family members and associates also affected. Makes Xi a lot of enemies. Also covered the insinuation of the CCP into Chinese-owned and foreign-owned private companies in China. Talked about most Southeast Asian countries, except Vietnam, having to lean toward China. Australia and NZ's relationship with China was also discussed. Bottom line on the whole thing - the only country that can effectively counter China is the USA, which has woken up to China.

This was written before the WuFlu, of course. Will be interesting to read a revised version of this later this year. The CCP's utterly inept handling of the WuFlu has certainly given a lot of food for thought about China in a whole bunch of national capitals. They now realize that not only is China not ten feet tall, but China is more of a paper tiger than could have been imagined.

The only real weapon here is Chinese stupidity.

And it's a weapon China has used very effectively against itself as of late. You have to make a very concerted effort to fuck this up more than the CCP has. And I fear the worst is yet to come.

RodgerDodger said:
I think that means Beijing is gearing up for a wholesale scapegoating of the locals.

Coleslaw: When shit like this happens in China, all you can do is be relieved it didn't happen where you or your family live.

JS: Any scapegoating is for local use, and the use of the CCP's "useful idiots". If blame were to be honestly taken, the first one to be thrown out on his ass would be Xi. He knew, early on. He tolerated the arrest of the brave doctors in Wuhan. Nope, that horse has long since left the barn.

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

This is when government should get involved and limit the purchase by individuals (a thirty day supply) as well a strictly control foreign export of medically necessary protective equipment. I'm sure the clowns on Twitter would scream racism if China didn't get the lion's share even if people in downtown LA were literally dropping dead in the streets from bat flu.

There actually isn't any need for government regulation when it comes to bulk purchases by providers or distributors. 3M already has its own in-house means of ensuring that their distributors get only what they need and each individual distributor, such as Medline and Cardinal Health, have their own as well to prevent a Chinese corporation or a daigou in the states from purchasing a couple million masks at the drop of the hat. A lot of these safeguards started going into force a few years back when diabetic test strips started going on backorder with a lot of distributors due to scalpers purchasing them in bulk and then reselling them to diabetic patients under the table.

I'm sure daigou, like that one guy in Seattle who bought out an entire Home Depot, and preppers purchasing multiple boxes for no discernable reason, are having some affect on stocks. I don't think they're the true reason why we're seeing distributors running on backorder. I surmise that major institutions and government entities are purchasing in bulk to prepare in the eventuality that the single-digit number of new cases hitting the United States and Canada start getting into the dozens or hundreds.

Mainline distributors, like Cardinal Health, who share the largest bulk of medical supply distribution in the US (and the west) are extremely cautious in how they distribute. Supply managers at hospitals are fickle beasts and have zero brand or name loyalty and will drop you like a bad habit if they think they can get a more reasonable supply from someone else because you sold all your stock to Ting Xao'bat in Seattle or Uncle Ted out in Kansas.


In other news, I now have streptococcus. If NCOVID-19 could just stay on the other side of the Pacific for the next ten days while I run through this amoxicillin course, I would appreciate it.

 

[JosephStalin]

There actually isn't any need for government regulation when it comes to bulk purchases by providers or distributors. 3M already has its own in-house means of ensuring that their distributors get only what they need and each individual distributor, such as Medline and Cardinal Health, have their own as well to prevent a Chinese corporation or a daigou in the states from purchasing a couple million masks at the drop of the hat. A lot of these safeguards started going into force a few years back when diabetic test strips started going on backorder with a lot of distributors due to scalpers purchasing them in bulk and then reselling them to diabetic patients under the table.

I'm sure daigou, like that one guy in Seattle who bought out an entire Home Depot, and preppers purchasing multiple boxes for no discernable reason, are having some affect on stocks. I don't think they're the true reason why we're seeing distributors running on backorder. I surmise that major institutions and government entities are purchasing in bulk to prepare in the eventuality that the single-digit number of new cases hitting the United States and Canada start getting into the dozens or hundreds.

Mainline distributors, like Cardinal Health, who share the largest bulk of medical supply distribution in the US (and the west) are extremely cautious in how they distribute. Supply managers at hospitals are fickle beasts and have zero brand or name loyalty and will drop you like a bad habit if they think they can get a more reasonable supply from someone else because you sold all your stock to Ting Xao'bat in Seattle or Uncle Ted out in Kansas.


In other news, I now have streptococcus. If NCOVID-19 could just stay on the other side of the Pacific for the next ten days while I run through this amoxicillin course, I would appreciate it.

Well put.

Funny, last week saw some signs downtown asking to buy diabetes test strips. First time in a while.

Would also hazard a guess that the same organizations in the USA buying masks in bulk are also buying other supplies in bulk, for the same reason. Also suspect we have stockpiles of certain medications/medication ingredients normally sourced from China. Like to think we have contingency contracts with certain US pharmaceutical companies to produce at least some of these meds should Chinese supplies falter. Remember, China needs to get their factories, etc, back producing ASAP. My guess - each day of Chinese national and export production lost costs China a billion dollars, not to mention the psychological effects within and without China.

 

[AlexJonesGotMePregnant]

All of this reasonable discussion makes me sicker than the corona virus, why aren't you people yelling about jews and niggers? according to the rest of this website, I must have wandered off of A&H and into the venerable halls of the beauty parlor or weeb wars.

seriously tho, thanks to all who are contributing and especially to those scouring chinanet and providing reference/translations. I've shared a few posts with some friendly chinks to confirm @AltisticRight 's translation summaries and they've always confirmed he's sharing an honest portrayal of the content.

 

[LazyLizard]

S.E. Asians have an appetites for all kinds of weird shit. This channel covers some of it. This one is quite gross but there are even grosser things being eaten with gusto on there.

what is it with non white countries and eating weird shit constantly? sure we have some weird shit in specific countries in Europe like rotten fish being eaten during Christmas up here in Scandinavia but we don't make shit like that a regular thing yet in all these other countries they eat dogs, cats, bugs etc. what's wrong with pig and cow farms?

I don't know, if the Seattle AAAS science congress results have been posted already.
The Munich Merkur (german news outlet) yesterday: US-scientist (genetics-researcher) Trevor Bedford, as part of an international group of researchers claims, the virus isn't artificially made.

According to Bedford, the genetic analysis has proven beyond any doubt that the new corona virus is not only related to the SARS virus, but that the two also have the same strain. Almost 20 to 70 years ago, the two types would have developed apart. According to Bedford, this means that the virus can not be produced in the laboratory.
The researcher also gives new figures on the infected: In his opinion, regardless of the official figures, one must assume that 200,000 people are currently infected with the corona virus.

source:

Coronavirus in China: Präsident Xi bezeichnet das Virus als größte Gesundheitskrise seit Staatsgründung

Das Coronavirus fordert in China über 2400 Todesopfer. 77.000 Menschen haben sich mit SARS-CoV-2 infiziert. Nun fand der chinesische Staatspräsident Xi drastische Worte für die Krise.

www.merkur.de

relevant snippet (in German):
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if it was not man made and not been manipulated by scientists then why can aids medicine work on it? why did China freak out so insanely if to them this was just a slightly more lethal cold and not some unleashed bioweapon? you don't lock down 760 million people and cripple your entire economy doing permanent damage to your reputation and your nations survival over a flu.

 

[Ashley Lynne Coulter]

China is our future, isn't it? God, I hope they don't invade us.

I hope corona virus doesn't come to my state and area. I get a little paranoid sometimes.

 

[JosephStalin]

China is our future, isn't it? God, I hope they don't invade us.

I hope corona virus doesn't come to my state and area. I get a little paranoid sometimes.

No, China isn't our future. And if China isn't careful about this virus, they may not even be their own future.

The only Chinese "invasion" we are likely to see is numbers of people with money coming to buy houses and assimilate into the USA.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

FFS i am sick and the world cant stop being retarded . Britain WTF edition :

Schools has been told to stay open even if they suspect coronavirus cases .
Current year britain .

Schools told to stay open even if there's a suspected case of coronavirus

There have been more than 3,000 tests carried out in the UK with six people testing positive.

metro.co.uk

Senior managment at NHS has been told to stop testing for the virus after they hit 100th case

‘Millions’ with flu symptoms may need to ‘self-isolate’ due to coronavirus

“Millions” of Britons with flu-like symptoms could be told by authorities to “self-isolate” by staying at home for a fortnight if the UK’s number of coronavirus cases rises passed 100. The Sunday Telegraph said senior NHS managers have been told that the service will stop testing for the strain...

www.itv.com

At the same time
CORONAVIRUS?: medics in protective suits spotted in Cowley

CORONAVIRUS 'fears' as paramedics seen in protective suits in Cowley

THERE was panic among shoppers in Cowley yesterday evening as paramedics dressed in protective suits and facemasks were spotted…

www.oxfordmail.co.uk

Singapoure already posted honest report about gdp growth cutting it from 1.5 per cent to -0.5 per cent due to the virus

Twitter

China first potential pneumococcal drug "Favavivir" approved for marketing . Shitty google translate only tells me this any mandarin speakers can comfirm?

https://news.sina.com.cn/c/2020-02-16/doc-iimxxstf1948251.shtml

Japan already issues already advisory to avoid crowds . Tell that to tokyo commuters pops they are packed like sardines at peak hours .

Avoid crowds and non-essential gatherings, health minister urges

Japan's health minister on Sunday urged the public to avoid crowds and "non-essential gatherings", including notoriously packed commuter trains, to prevent the new coronavirus from spreading in the country. Katsunobu Kato warned the nation was "entering a new phase" in the outbreak of the virus...

japantoday.com

Some decent discussion about Ncov by virologists was recomended to me havent listened to it but i am posting the link for the autists in here

TWiV 586: Coronavirus update: wash your hands | This Week in Virology

In this week's coverage of the coronavirus epidemic, the TWiV team discusses the fatality rate, China's initial reaction to the outbreak, conspiracy theories, how long the virus remains infectious on surfaces, and evidence for virus in the intestinal tract.

www.microbe.tv

Apparently every factory not working causes polution to drop to levels not seen since the turn of the century , anyone can tell me what this picture means and confirms it ?

Low pollution in china

1591 views on Imgur

imgur.com

People panicking about base materials/textiles/polymers /parts not coming

r/China_Flu - MASSIVE Delay in Products

1,378 votes and 667 comments so far on Reddit

www.reddit.com

So far isn't official but after automotive industry shut down i am guessing furniture next?

Another terrible goggle translate can people comfirm ?
Close contact for more than 30 days before the diagnosis of two unconventional cases in Xinyang, Henan

密切接触30多天才确诊 河南信阳出现两例超常规病例

第一财经官方网站，7X24小时提供股市行情、经济大势、金融政策、行业动态、专家分析等财经资讯；全网独家直播谈股论金、今日股市、公司与行业、解码财商、头脑风暴等第一财经电视节目。

www.yicai.com

A decent fancy tracker if some of you wanna see the cases outside of china tick up

Metabiota - Epidemic Tracker

Monitor infectious disease threats and current outbreaks around the globe

www.epidemictracker.com

 

[Feline Supremacist]

what is it with non white countries and eating weird shit constantly? sure we have some weird shit in specific countries in Europe like rotten fish being eaten during Christmas up here in Scandinavia but we don't make shit like that a regular thing yet in all these other countries they eat dogs, cats, bugs etc. what's wrong with big and cow farms?



if it was not man made and not been manipulated by scientists then why can aids medicine work on it? why did China freak out so insanely if to them this was just a slightly more lethal cold and not some unleashed bioweapon? you don't lock down 760 million people and cripple your entire economy doing permanent damage to your reputation and your nations survival over a flu.

The lethality and increasing lock down is what's freaking everyone out. Along with the refusal to be honest about the death/infection numbers. Something's not right.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

This is quite incredible.

(PDF) The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus

PDF | The 2019-nCoV has caused an epidemic of 28,060 laboratory-confirmed infections in human including 564 deaths in China by February 6, 2020. Two... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

web.archive.org

Paper out of a Chinese institute, or am I reading that wrong? They are basically saying it’s from the lab near the market. Interesting that it’s from within China - I assume that CCP has control over such publications? So CCP has allowed this to be published...

They're saying it with no more proof than we've already established. That there are labs that could have had a virus in the area has been known for awhile. It's not like they found an identical sample in the lab or a specific incident near to the time of the outbreak.

 

[LazyLizard]

The lethality and increasing lock down is what's freaking everyone out. Along with the refusal to be honest about the death/infection numbers. Something's not right.

less than 2k deaths yet they quarantine 760 million? yea something is definitely up.

 

[feral cat #6385]

When I get corona virus I'm just going to skip the first two months of China's mistakes and go straight to drinking wild animal piss and rubbing batshit into an open wound. Tiger baum is for oral ingestion, right?

Not sure how the Tiger will react but yea just watch out for the spines.

 

[Coleslaw]

Any scapegoating is for local use, and the use of the CCP's "useful idiots".

I don't have the file, but I have seen a video people who are not wearing masks being tied together with ropes and paraded down the street in single file like prisoners. It's sickening and disgusting.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

So, are all the cases Han Chinese? Or can the virus jump between phenotypes/ethnicities/whatever you want to call them?

 

[Without A Gout]

Nothing to see here, folks. Just China silencing all dissidents and reinforcing the Streisand Effect.

Spoiler: CCP GONNA CCP

‘This may be the last piece I write’: prominent Xi critic has internet cut after house arrest

Spoiler: CCP GONNA CCP

The Chinese professor Xu Zhangrun, who published a rare public critique of President Xi Jinping over China’s coronavirus crisis, was placed under house arrest for days, barred from social media and is now cut off from the internet, his friends have told the Guardian.


Xu’s passionate attack on the government’s system of controls and censorship, Viral Alarm: When Fury Overcomes Fear, was published this month – a rare, bold expression of dissent from the liberal camp under Xi’s rule.


A friend of Xu’s who spoke on Sunday on the condition of anonymity to avoid reprisals said police placed Xu under house arrest soon after he returned to Beijing from his lunar new year break at his home town in Anhui province.


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“They confined him at home under the pretext that he had to be quarantined after the trip,” the friend said. “He was in fact under de facto house arrest and his movements were restricted.”


During those days, at least two people stood guard in front of his house around the clock and a car with a signal box was parked in front of his residence. Security agents also went into his house to issue warnings to him, the friend said.


Those restrictions were lifted late last week, but his internet connection has been cut off since Friday, the friend added.


“He tried to get it mended but found out that his IP [internet protocol address] has been blocked. He lives on the outskirts of Beijing and is far away from shops and other services. Under the current [coronavirus] situation, things are very difficult for him.”


Friends say that since publication, Xu’s account has been suspended on WeChat, a Chinese messaging app, and many have been unable to get in touch with him for days. His name has been scrubbed from Weibo, a Twitter-like microblog, with only articles from official websites several years ago showing up on the country’s biggest search engine, Baidu. Calls to his mobile phone went unanswered on Sunday.


Phone calls to the Ministry of Public Security also went unanswered on Sunday. The staff member who answered the phone at Changping branch of Beijing Public Security Bureau said she had no knowledge of Xu.


Another friend who also spoke on the condition of anonymity had managed to correspond with him through text messages but said his situation was worrying. “I fear he might be under surveillance,” said this friend. “He has not directly responded (to my queries) but just told me not to worry.”


When Xu published his essay, he warned that he was likely to be punished. He said he had already been suspended from teaching and had “freedoms curtailed” over critiques published nearly a year earlier.


“I can now all too easily predict that I will be subjected to new punishments; indeed, this may well even be the last piece I write,” he wrote at the end of his latest essay.


Xu’s criticism of the country’s leadership came shortly before a widespread debate on freedom of speech convulsed the country. The death on 7 February of whistleblowing doctor Li Wenliang, who had tried to warn colleagues about the virus but was reprimanded and silenced by security forces, triggered an outpouring of grief and anger and an unusual public discussion about censorship.


“Li’s death has thoroughly exposed the ills of the party’s governance and control; this has a huge impact on people’s minds,” said Hong Zhenkuai, an independent historian who is currently working outside China, as a visiting scholar at Tokyo University.


The mechanisms that normally constrain Chinese journalists have also eased slightly, with some of the most powerful stories about life in quarantined Wuhan and the latest news about the evolution of the outbreak coming from mainland newsrooms like that of magazine Caixin.


But public anger over censorship, and the particular circumstances of a national emergency, should not be mistaken for any fundamental change within the Chinese Communist party, which has been honing its ability to control the national conversation for decades, activists and intellectuals say.


In a further reminder of the government’s strict controls, two citizen journalists who were reporting from the epicentre of China’s coronavirus outbreak have vanished this week, apparently detained.


The Chinese military surgeon who exposed the government’s cover-up of the Sars outbreak in 2002-2003 has been under de facto house arrest since last year, the Guardian revealed this month. Detention came after he wrote to the top leadership asking for a reassessment of the 1989 Tiananmen Square pro-democracy movement.


“There is no space for speech freedom in China now,” said Hong. “The impacts on the individuals are multi-faceted. Economically, they would cut off your livelihood [academics get fired, writers can’t publish and no one dares hire you]. You would get sidelined by mainstream society, you’d lose friends and, worse than that, you might lose your personal freedoms, so a number of intellectual elites have chosen to leave China.”



Since he took power in late 2012, Xi has tightened ideological control and suppressed civil freedoms across the nation, reversing a trend under his predecessor to give Chinese media some limited scope to expose and report regional corruption and lower-level officials’ misdeeds.


Even within the Communist party, cadres are threatened with disciplinary action for expressing opinions that differ from the leadership.


Under Xi’s crackdown on speech and academic freedoms, a number of prominent liberal intellectuals, journalists, rights lawyers and NGO workers have either been silenced, jailed or escaped abroad.

 

[LazyLizard]

So, are all the cases Han Chinese? Or can the virus jump between phenotypes/ethnicities/whatever you want to call them?

there have been white people who have gotten the virus but so far they have all recovered or are still in isolation.

 

[Fat Is Divinity]

If this video is anything to go by then it looks like the hospitals/crematoriums in Wuhan have continued to degrade to the point where they're now just leaving bodies on the sidewalk

PULKIT GOEL on Twitter

“Dead Bodies kept on sidewalk... painful #Coronavirus #CoronavirusWho #coronavirus #COVID19 #COVID2019 https://t.co/4Dmw9hyN9f”

twitter.com

Happy year of the rat folks

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

less than 2k deaths yet they quarantine 760 million? yea something is definitely up.

Communists are lolcows.

 

[Ectotherm]

If this video is anything to go by then it looks like the hospitals/crematoriums in Wuhan have continued to degrade to the point where they're now just leaving bodies on the sidewalk

PULKIT GOEL on Twitter

“Dead Bodies kept on sidewalk... painful #Coronavirus #CoronavirusWho #coronavirus #COVID19 #COVID2019 https://t.co/4Dmw9hyN9f”

twitter.com

Happy year of the rat folks

Did some light twitter digging, those aren't dead bodies.
"The video is true!But it should be in Wenzhou,not Wuhan!You can tell from those red lanterns,it’s Chinese New Year!People went back to work in Wenzhou,but the new laws don’t allow landlords to rent the apartments to anyone who is not local residents,so people had to sleep outside" @YingAnderson88

"This is in Shenzhen several days ago. As the city don't accept the workers from Hubei province. Local landlord don't lease the house to them anymore. Some even have the house there but the communities don't accept them as worring about the virus they may bring." @eddyshaw810

https://twitter.com/freethinkbird/status/1229097388431704065 twitter thread

 

[Bat Soup Reviews]

I don't have the file, but I have seen a video people who are not wearing masks being tied together with ropes and paraded down the street in single file like prisoners. It's sickening and disgusting.

Is this the one?