Are there any RPGs with elves in them that AREN'T insufferable stuck-up assholes?

[Peasant]

Always seemed odd to me that by its very nature the fantasy genre allows you to create any world and beings you want, but it always stick to ridgid stereotypes.

If you bend over backwards trying to make the most original fantasy setting ever, then autists will come out of the woodworks to insinuate that you ripped off some other IP you never even heard of, so fuck it.

 

[Marissa Moira]

If you bend over backwards trying to make the most original fantasy setting ever, then autists will come out of the woodworks to insinuate that you ripped off some other IP you never even heard of, so fuck it.

No it just winds up being some flavor of Dark Urban fantasy with every Diversity Checkbox checked.

There's no such thing as originality because every idea has already been done.

Also why the fuck would you get into sci-fi or fantasy if you're afraid of autists criticizing you? That's like going into detroit with a suitcase full of money and expecting to not be shot.

Goddamn why are people so afraid of some bigbrain hurting their feefees? Writing a book means you have to deal with editors, and editors will be the first to question your logic and such for a story, it's part of the process.

 

[Reverend]

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Spire is a mile-high impossible city, older than anyone can remember. Two hundred years ago, the high elves – or aelfir, strange and beautiful masked creatures from the far north – took it from the dark elves by force. Now, they graciously allow dark elves, or drow, to live in the city if they perform four years of service to an aelfir lord once they come of age.

Nothing like making the Elves the bad guys for once.

 

[Pizza Time]

The best elves are the ones made to be #orc'd and forcefully impregnated.

 

[Overcast]

Would the Githzerai from Planescape count? They look rather elvish.

Based on my experiences with Dakkon and his stories of his people, they seem badass. Building fortresses with their minds and shit and breaking themselves out of slavery.

 

[Haramburger]

Elder scrolls has a bunch of different elves, all of them are faggots except dark elves.

Where my n'wahs at?

Morrowind is the San Andreas of Elder Scrolls.

 

[Randall Fragg]

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Nothing like making the Elves the bad guys for once.

So the Elves are basically the Jews and the Drow is Hezbollah. Cool. I need to play that and make a character who's that Palestinian Micky Mouse knock-off.

 

[Sir Wesley Tailpipe]

South Park;The Stick of Truth is the only one I can think of!

 

[Shield Breaker]

No it just winds up being some flavor of Dark Urban fantasy with every Diversity Checkbox checked.

There's no such thing as originality because every idea has already been done.

Also why the fuck would you get into sci-fi or fantasy if you're afraid of autists criticizing you? That's like going into detroit with a suitcase full of money and expecting to not be shot.

Goddamn why are people so afraid of some bigbrain hurting their feefees? Writing a book means you have to deal with editors, and editors will be the first to question your logic and such for a story, it's part of the process.

Speculative Fiction is almost as pozzed as YA. The fear isn't about being accused of ripping off another story, but another culture. Look up 'sensitivity readers.'

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

Speculative Fiction is almost as pozzed as YA. The fear isn't about being accused of ripping off another story, but another culture. Look up 'sensitivity readers.'

Speculative Fiction also has the issue where people will accuse you of racism/islamophobia if you dare make it seem like an oppressed group isn't 100% perfect.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Speculative Fiction also has the issue where people will accuse you of racism/islamophobia if you dare make it seem like an oppressed group isn't 100% perfect.

How can people write good stories if they're that restrained creatively?

 

[Shield Breaker]

How can people write good stories if they're that restrained creatively?

They can't.

 

[Namesarehardtocomeupwith]

The elves in monster girl quest are pretty okay, mainly because the angels took their main shtick

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Look, the elves are only uppity because they are clearly the superior species and rightful owners of all things which exist. All other races are simply beneath them and that's something that you narrow minded barbarians just need to accept.

 

[Francis E. Dec Esc.]

In the first Suikoden game, the elf village gets massacred and burned to the ground by the Empire.

 

[augment]

They ruined the Horde.

World of Warcraft is not Warcraft, it's an addiction sim with clicker elements.

Look, the elves are only uppity because they are clearly the superior species and rightful owners of all things which exist. All other races are simply beneath them and that's something that you narrow minded barbarians just need to accept.

The elves are the communist party of China ?

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Always seemed odd to me that by its very nature the fantasy genre allows you to create any world and beings you want, but it always stick to ridgid stereotypes.

As long as we're on the subject of alternative fantasy, I've been thinking about the idea of what high fantasy, constructed from the ground-up from an American perspective, would look like. Like, high fantasy pretty much all draws directly from European mythology and history. There's almost always an Empire that collapsed in the distant past and was superseded by a bunch of kingdoms. There's almost always elves, dwarves, dragons, and the like.

After all, Tolkien created Middle-Earth in large part because he wanted to create a mythology for a country that didn't have a distinct national mythology (England).

So what does the American fantasy look like, where instead of the Medieval historical setting being merged with magic, otherworldly creatures, and the like, it's the Western? Some authors have tried, but I don't know as any of them were committed to just being "the American Tolkien." The closest it seems to get is Deadlands, which is an alternate history set in the West which has magic (mostly in the sense of Native American magic, and magic involving Faustian deals and gambling; the travelling gambler archetype is merged with the wizard archetype) and monsters (horror creatures and folklore).

I think somebody could make something interesting by taking inspiration from Tolkien and Deadlands and creating a high fantasy which is set in a world analogous to the US, where instead of kings it's dictators and republics, a march of industrializing civilization against the savages, and the creatures and magic draw from Native American and American folkloric ideas. Breaking fantasy's addiction to elves and dwarves (but the Indian equivalents would be fine, if they exist). A fantasy version of the South could also be just as interesting for that sort of thing (going for more of a gothic feeling).

 

[Francis E. Dec Esc.]

As long as we're on the subject of alternative fantasy, I've been thinking about the idea of what high fantasy, constructed from the ground-up from an American perspective, would look like. Like, high fantasy pretty much all draws directly from European mythology and history. There's almost always an Empire that collapsed in the distant past and was superseded by a bunch of kingdoms. There's almost always elves, dwarves, dragons, and the like.

After all, Tolkien created Middle-Earth in large part because he wanted to create a mythology for a country that didn't have a distinct national mythology (England).

So what does the American fantasy look like, where instead of the Medieval historical setting being merged with magic, otherworldly creatures, and the like, it's the Western? Some authors have tried, but I don't know as any of them were committed to just being "the American Tolkien." The closest it seems to get is Deadlands, which is an alternate history set in the West which has magic (mostly in the sense of Native American magic, and magic involving Faustian deals and gambling; the travelling gambler archetype is merged with the wizard archetype) and monsters (horror creatures and folklore).

I think somebody could make something interesting by taking inspiration from Tolkien and Deadlands and creating a high fantasy which is set in a world analogous to the US, where instead of kings it's dictators and republics, a march of industrializing civilization against the savages, and the creatures and magic draw from Native American and American folkloric ideas. Breaking fantasy's addiction to elves and dwarves (but the Indian equivalents would be fine, if they exist). A fantasy version of the South could also be just as interesting for that sort of thing (going for more of a gothic feeling).

Harry Turtledove wrote a trilogy of books about a high fantasy version of the American Civil War, called the 'War Between the Provinces'.
There's also Manly Wellman's 'Silver John' books and short stories.

 

[Baku69]

As long as we're on the subject of alternative fantasy, I've been thinking about the idea of what high fantasy, constructed from the ground-up from an American perspective, would look like. Like, high fantasy pretty much all draws directly from European mythology and history. There's almost always an Empire that collapsed in the distant past and was superseded by a bunch of kingdoms. There's almost always elves, dwarves, dragons, and the like.

After all, Tolkien created Middle-Earth in large part because he wanted to create a mythology for a country that didn't have a distinct national mythology (England).

So what does the American fantasy look like, where instead of the Medieval historical setting being merged with magic, otherworldly creatures, and the like, it's the Western? Some authors have tried, but I don't know as any of them were committed to just being "the American Tolkien." The closest it seems to get is Deadlands, which is an alternate history set in the West which has magic (mostly in the sense of Native American magic, and magic involving Faustian deals and gambling; the travelling gambler archetype is merged with the wizard archetype) and monsters (horror creatures and folklore).

I think somebody could make something interesting by taking inspiration from Tolkien and Deadlands and creating a high fantasy which is set in a world analogous to the US, where instead of kings it's dictators and republics, a march of industrializing civilization against the savages, and the creatures and magic draw from Native American and American folkloric ideas. Breaking fantasy's addiction to elves and dwarves (but the Indian equivalents would be fine, if they exist). A fantasy version of the South could also be just as interesting for that sort of thing (going for more of a gothic feeling).

Pillars of Eternity kinda did this with the Dyrwood being a post-colonial society that declared it's independence and entered the world stage in a big way by nuking a god. There's still elves and dwarves but race seems less important than national origin.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Look, all I want to do is round up all of the humans, dwarves, and any other non-elven creature other than the Gith and put them in forced labor camps whereupon I can slaughter them en mass. Is that so wrong?