Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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After I heard about what happened in Milan and the empty shelves, it makes me worried about Corona hitting the US. This is some apocalyptic shit.

And people are really playing the "don't be racist" card because others don't want to get sick. Unbelievable.
good thing is that these people claiming "it's a nothingburger, don't be racist!" are the ones who won't prep and who will be fucked over first once shipments stop coming.

I don't know if anyone else has posted this yet but here is a piece from the New York Times exploring why men and women are affected differently by the Wu-Flu
Why the Coronavirus Seems to Hit Men Harder than Women
a fucking plague that kills everyone except women and soyboys, what the fuck.
 
After I heard about what happened in Milan and the empty shelves, it makes me worried about Corona hitting the US. This is some apocalyptic shit.

And people are really playing the "don't be racist" card because others don't want to get sick. Unbelievable.
I'm surprised we haven't gotten into people calling each other selfish for not wanting to share in the agony others have no choice in suffering.
 
Did they only test 11 people?

No. Part of it is the ever changing criteria. The other part is them forcing people into full on don't leave your house or gather in groups quarantine. Realistically? China wants to get back on track, it's already elsewhere in the world, the population they have is large enough that 90% of workers can be replaced so they're probably just saying fuck it.

You should treat an outbreak by starving it of bodies and it will not be able to get spread around. However it's too little too late so at this point I guess Xi and his cohorts have decided what's a few 100,000 dead as long as the economy keeps going.
 
Did they only test 11 people?
This is what is probably happening:

>Xi and co. realized their measures are fucking over the economy.
>But they have declared a "people's war" on the virus, so admitting that they cannot contain this virus is out of the question
>especially that people know how late they were in responding to the crisis
>So Xi sends orders downword to beat this virus ASAP or you will be destroyed
>But provincial, county, etc. leaders realize they cannot do this
>so they do as they always have and lie out of their asses
>Henceforth, no infections!
 
I don't know why they're not looking for bigger areas to house them in the desert. At least the desert towns are more isolated which would at least make it easier to do a quarantine. None of Orange County is decent for a quarantined area. It's way too populated.
The crazy part to me is that they wanted to move a large number of people in and they didn't even check to see if the building is up to code or good enough. But no- lets just stick them all in a place that's run down.
I'm sure the military has some temporary housing stuff laying somewhere. Ship it to Twentynine Palms and set it up out in the desert. The combat engineers get to build a base and the POL guys get to haul fuel to the generator farm. Who doesn't love training?
 
I don't know if anyone else has posted this yet but here is a piece from the New York Times exploring why men and women are affected differently by the Wu-Flu
Why the Coronavirus Seems to Hit Men Harder than Women

Another factor is a lot more simple - Chinese men generally smoke, and smoke heavily. Chinese women don't. Cultural thing. I see it even in the diaspora one here - rarely see the men without a ciggie in hand, rarely ever see a Chinese woman smoking. I would take a bet even the male doctors who died in China smoked.

A 2004 study conducted among 3,500 Chinese physicians found that 23% were regular smokers. There was a significant gender difference, with 41% of male physicians reporting to be smokers but only 1% of female physicians. More than one third of current smokers had smoked in front of their patients and nearly all had smoked during their work shift.[30]

Male surgeons were found to smoke more than any other specialty.[30] A study conducted among 800 Chinese male surgeons in 2004 found that 45.2% were smokers and 42.5% had smoked in front of their patients.[31]

The smoking rates from these independent studies are lower than those reported by China's state-run newspaper. An article published in 2009 interviewed a source who claimed that 60% of Chinese male doctors were smokers, a percentage higher than any other country's doctors in the world.[32]

Comparison to other populations
Smoking rates among Chinese male physicians are comparable to the country's general population, although overall physician rates are lower. Chinese physicians have a substantially higher smoking prevalence than doctors in the United States (3.3%) or United Kingdom (6.8%). They have a slightly higher rate than Japanese physicians (20.2%) and Japanese physicians have a smaller gender discrepancy with 27% male and 7% of female doctors smoking.[30]

Causes and influences
High tobacco use among physicians may be attributed to several factors. In Chinese culture, smoking is connected to masculine identity as a social activity that is practiced among men to promote feelings of acceptance and brotherhood, which explains why more Chinese male doctors smoke than females. Furthermore, physicians in particular may resort to tobacco as a coping mechanism to deal with the day-to-day stress that is associated with long work hours and difficult patient interactions.[33]


If you smoke, when push comes to shove and you suffer a disease or injury that impairs your lungs, you find out the hard way how heavily damaged and less able to fight off any infection or damage your lungs already are than a non-smoker and how much less survivable whatever happened to you - because you cannot get enough oxygen into your blood due to even more lung tissue than normal being out of action - is than for someone with lungs that haven't had carcinogenic, tar-ridden crap pumped into them daily for years. It's the difference in a person who can swim well falling into water and being able to stay afloat until helps arrives and a person who can swim well trying to survive drowning after falling into deep water with concrete blocks tied to their legs and their arms tied behind their backs.
 
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Another factor is a lot more simple - Chinese men generally smoke, and smoke heavily. Chinese women don't. Cultural thing. I see it even in the diaspora one here - rarely see the men without a ciggie in hand, rarely ever see a Chinese woman smoking. I would take a bet even the male doctors who died in China smoked.




If you smoke, when push comes to shove and you suffer a disease or injury that impairs your lungs, you find out the hard way how heavily damaged and less able to fight off any infection or damage your lungs already are than a non-smoker and how much less survivable whatever happened to you - because you cannot get enough oxygen into your blood due to even more lung tissue than normal being out of action - than someone with lungs that haven't had carcinogenic, tar-ridden crap pumped into them daily for years. It's the difference in a person who can swim well falling into water and being able to stay afloat until helps arrives and a person who can swim well trying to survive drowning after falling into deep water with concrete blocks tied to their legs and their arms tied behind their backs.
China is also pretty male biased demographically thanks to the one child policy too. Might help explain the disproportionate death toll in that country.
 
Another tidbit that explains how entrenched smoking is even among doctors:

"One surgeon in Kunming (Yunnan province) described smoking as a phenomenon that is an integral part of Chinese medical culture and one that improves job performance:

Smoking is such a big part of being a doctor here. The director of our hospital smokes. The party-secretary smokes. The chair of my department smokes. And whenever I walk into the duty office, most of my colleagues are smoking. And to tell you the truth, with such a pressure-filled job, smoking is extremely helpful, at times soothing, at times energizing, at times helping me focus my attention when preparing for a complex surgery or facing a stack of paperwork 10:30 at night.[33] "

Also:

"As of 2014, two thirds of Chinese men smoked. Women smoked much less. In 2010, smoking caused nearly 1 million (840 000 male, 130 000 female) deaths in China.[35]

China remains one of the three leading countries (along with India and Indonesia) in total number of male smokers, accounted for 51.4% of the world's male smokers in 2015.[36] "



Place is fucked, really.
 
I, too, wonder about if since I had a possible fever and head symptoms that fizzled and lingered and weren't abysmal but were indeed strange, along with another person who went through the same thing, if there have been less severe strains or inoculations already abound somehow. Wonder if I would be able to get a blood test to just see, but it's probably a long shot that any of this is on point. I wonder if this thing is just erratic in it's behavior within different places/people.

Also, to bio/med kiwis, would constantly intaking diuretics help people get "better" faster? I mean, in a rudimentary sense, that seems solid to me, but I could be thinking of such things in a far too simplified manner.

You know it's still cold/flu season, right? Not every case of the sniffles is a visit from Winnie the Flu.

A stew of biological factors may be responsible, including the female sex hormone estrogen, which appears to play a role in immunity

MFW troons inherit the Earth

MFW when the world population declines by 41% again for unknown reasons.
 
If you smoke, when push comes to shove and you suffer a disease or injury that impairs your lungs, you find out the hard way how heavily damaged and less able to fight off any infection or damage your lungs already are than a non-smoker and how much less survivable whatever happened to you - because you cannot get enough oxygen into your blood due to even more lung tissue than normal being out of action - is than for someone with lungs that haven't had carcinogenic, tar-ridden crap pumped into them daily for years. It's the difference in a person who can swim well falling into water and being able to stay afloat until helps arrives and a person who can swim well trying to survive drowning after falling into deep water with concrete blocks tied to their legs and their arms tied behind their backs.
I feel sorry for the old (and every year increasingly older) folks who were fed bullshit studies in the 50s and 60s but almost get schadenfreude from the young smokers facing this. Nobody but you put those cigarettes in your mouth, but yourself, Nick. Enjoy your reckoning...
 
I feel sorry for the old (and every year increasingly older) folks who were fed bullshit studies in the 50s and 60s but almost get schadenfreude from the young smokers facing this. Nobody but you put those cigarettes in your mouth, but yourself, Nick. Enjoy your reckoning...
They made their choices but that doesn't really mean they deserve to die. Life is a series of calculated risks of immediate satisfaction vs. long term gains and where one person draws their own line isn't necessarily better or worse than anyone else's. Although I suppose in a command economy where at least allegedly the burden of medical treatment is shifted to the whole of society you could argue it's immoral.
 
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