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Yeah, just the flu. No football, no pasta, no mass.


And sometimes there can be good side effects.
 
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Rhys is kind of right but wrong. The "regular flu" has a lower fatality rate but a much higher case infection rate (more people die from it yearly but because more people get it). The fatality rate of COVID-19 is much, much higher than the flu (2-3% vs 0.01% [although fatality rate can only be measure after an epidemic ends]) although it has as of yet infected fewer people.
The danger of this virus doesn't necessarily come from the bug itself (although that 20% of cases are reported as severe is very bad), it mostly comes from overloading the medical infrastructure. What do you think is going to happen if a hospital suddenly has to take in a dozen or two severely ill Corona-chan patients per day in addition to all the normal traffic? Maybe they'd be fine for a week or so, but what about a month of that? Two months? Six months? Now expand that out to every hospital in your city. Hospitals will run out of beds, run out of meds, and run out of oxygen, meaning people who become seriously sick are way more likely to die. Not just from Corona, but from any significant illness or injury.
 
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Rhys is kind of right but wrong. The "regular flu" has a lower fatality rate but a much higher case infection rate (more people die from it yearly but because more people get it). The fatality rate of COVID-19 is much, much higher than the flu (2-3% vs 0.01% [although fatality rate can only be measure after an epidemic ends]) although it has as of yet infected fewer people.
it's like these people don't understand how time works. they think a flu killing X amount of people yearly shows that because the wuflu has only killed Y amount in 2 months that it's not that bad and "it's not as bad as the flu bro". not to mention the flu is global while the wuflu is still spreading, it hasn't even (officially anyway) infected more than 80 000 people.
 

Yeah, just the flu. No football, no pasta, no mass.


And sometimes there can be good side effects.

Rate me MOTI but this whole 'oh they're taking logical proactive measures' being met with people saying 'it's just a flu' sarcastically is a bit overplayed in the thread at this point.

You can't quarantine people or areas and then allow mass group events to still happen. 🤔
 
Yes and the media haven't helped at all. Italian journalists are a nasty breed of incompetence, ignorance, borderline illiteracy and exceptionalism.

ETA. Personally I'm more worried about being quarantined and the long term economical consequences. The North is the industrial and financial heart of the country. If we stop, the whole country is fucked and believe me it's already been fucked senseless enough, it doesn't need anymore of it. Also: in Milan alone there are 1.4 million people. This is not China, you cannot quarantine a city like this and expect people to cooperate immediately in the name of The Nation. Even if they did it people would either completely panic or would try to keep living their normal lives in defiance of the decrees because "Fuck the government, nobody can tell me what to do" is essentially the motto of every Italian. I hope that the situation will calm down in a couple of weeks time max but you never know with this shit.
that brings up a really interesting thing i just thought off, how will the migrants react? they are violent morons that just wander around and demand free shit from every country they come to without ever following the law. what would they do during a quarantine? probably either rob people or escape it.
 
You'll find Norinco firearms are cheap and very reliable for a Chinese product; their military industry doesn't skimp out on quality

Norinco builds decent quality replicas of Western and Russian arms. Their domestically produced military hardware is garbage. Unless you're already being cucked by the long arm of Belt and Road, you purchase your expensive and good shit from NATO and your cheap and okay stuff from Russia.

China is shit at producing domestic anything. I bought a Chinese motorcycle that is a rip-off of an 80s Honda design. Great quality, but the quality of it has nothing to do with the Chinese. The design and the tooling are all taken from Honda. Their CCP-sponsored culture of nobody taking responsibility for fear of being dragged to prison or shot has pretty much cucked their domestic entrepreneurial nature.
 
The hearing for the transfer to that shithole housing area in Costa Mesa was held today.

The judge pointed out that California doesn't have veto power and knowing how reckless they've been about transferring people against Trump's wishes, the federal agents are probably going to ignore any complaints and move them there anyhow.
If this happens, it's going to piss off most of the people who live there.


A California federal judge on Monday ordered warring sides in a dispute over where to locate coronavirus-exposed patients to hammer out their differences before they return to her courtroom next week to resolve a lawsuit that underscores the growing anxiety among U.S. communities about housing people exposed to the fast-moving virus.
Federal District Judge Josephine Staton cautioned Costa Mesa, Calif., officials that they do not have veto power over state and federal quarantine decisions and face an uphill battle trying to block the transfer of several coronavirus-infected patients to a closed mental- health facility in the city.
But she was also critical of state and federal officials, saying she wanted them to provide answers to the city’s questions about who would care for the quarantined, how many of them might be moved to Costa Mesa and what would happen if their conditions worsened and they required hospitalization.
“When decisions are made in a hurry, mistakes are made,” she said.
Officials in Costa Mesa as well as Anniston, Ala., have sought to block plans to transfer Americans repatriated from Asia and now in federal quarantine because they have tested positive for the novel coronavirus or may have been exposed to it.
Costa Mesa won a preliminary injunction Friday to temporarily block the transfer of infected patients from Travis Air Force Base to the Fairview Developmental Center, which they described as a “dilapidated” complex unable to handle infectious-disease patients.
On Sunday, officials representing the city of Anniston, Ala., appealed directly to President Trump to back off plans to transfer repatriated citizens from Asia in federal quarantine to a Federal Emergency Management Agency building on a former Army base. Several high-ranking state officials took their case to Trump, including Gov. Kay Ivey (R), Rep. Mike D. Rogers (R-Ala.) and Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.), and said Trump assured them the administration would not move forward with its plans.
The efforts by Costa Mesa and Anniston reflect growing anxiety about the risk of the growing coronavirus outbreak for local communities, and suggest the difficulty federal officials may have in housing a growing number of quarantined people. Officials in both cities said that they have compassion for people exposed to or infected with the virus, but argued local facilities were not appropriate places for them and might pose risks to residents of their communities. Local officials also said they did not receive clear communication or guidance from the federal government that their facilities could be used to aid in the response.
“We felt blindsided,” Costa Mesa City Council member Andrea Marr said in an interview. “A huge part of our role is communicating with the public about what’s going on. People have an expectation that they at least get some answers, that they know what the plan is.”
Costa Mesa officials said they had received conflicting information from state health officials about the medical status of the patients, the amount of time they would need to be quarantined and how various scenarios would be handled. That convinced them there was not a clear plan to protect city residents, they said.
In its response to Costa Mesa’s lawsuit, the state of California said the suit was “frivolous” and that its quarantine laws enabled it to identify state properties that could house quarantined residents.
Legal experts said it was unlikely Costa Mesa’s lawsuit would succeed because cities typically cannot override the decisions of a state government.
“The question in the court is can a city object to what a state government does,” said Polly Price, professor of law and global health at Emory University. “Federal courts are pretty clear you can’t sue a state government in court. There isn’t really a federal order to challenge here because the key fact was that California’s state public health department . . . they’re in complete control.”
Before Friday, the United States had 15 confirmed cases of coronavirus. But that number has grown to more than 50 after the State Department and a top health official overruled the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and brought back 14 passengers from the Diamond Princess luxury liner in Japan who tested positive for the virus on the same flights as noninfected passengers. Those who were passengers on that ship are among those at the highest risk of contracting the virus because of their exposure in a confined space to those who may have been infected.
On Monday, the CDC said the number of confirmed coronavirus cases from the more than 300 Americans who were repatriated from the Diamond Princess had doubled to 36 since Friday.
In its response to the lawsuit, the federal government argued that Costa Mesa’s lawsuit was based on “speculation and unfounded internet fear — not science, facts, or accepted health practice.”
“Time is of the essence in this response to the public health emergency presented by COVID-19: this public health response requires action in hours and days, not days and weeks,” the government wrote. “Any act that hinders the ability of federal and state public health authorities to implement these effective, time-tested measures endangers the public health — and, thus, the safety and well-being of the American people.”
Yet local Costa Mesa officials and residents argued that the Fairview Developmental Center was in the middle of residential neighborhoods, and that children often use its fields for soccer practices, games and other events.
Haverly Horton, a city resident whose 10-year-old son has a primary immunodeficiency, said she worries that Fairview is not a secure facility and the virus could easily spread to vulnerable people like her son.
“I’d love for them to show us a plan and how they’re going to enforce it,” Horton said. “I don’t want to be a NIMBY, but I don’t want to be someone who’s super liberal and say let’s bring everybody in here and then my own son dies because I’m foolish.”
 
Kiwis - is it too early to start planning a Farms safe zone? Or maybe pick several locations to gather when things get hot, reduce reliance on public services.

With proper planning, we could have our own quarantine camp, stock it with rations / ammo / medicine, establish protocols for detection and containment of the infected. We could set up HAM radios for communications between the safe zones, maybe even solar panels to ensure continuous electric service. This could come together fast.

Local officials where I live are a bunch of Communists who are already blaming white males for valuing profit over disease. Pretty sure it will be time to skip town if there's a single confirmed case. Would rather be shitposting from a secluded mountain retreat with an autistic militia than take my chances with society.
1. it isn't going to HABBENING in your lifetime. ever.
2. even if it does, you aren't gunna do shit about it because you're lazy and fat and don't even have a plan, and you'll just have your privileges stripped away one by one while you sit on your fat ass and watch. and if you think about doing anything about it, we'll get you. and if you act on it, we'll kill you.
3. you will sit in your own filth in the Global Favela of Love And Tolerance(TM) and you will be a good boy while we call you a racist for not wanting to coof yourself to death.
 
Norinco builds decent quality replicas of Western and Russian arms. Their domestically produced military hardware is garbage. Unless you're already being cucked by the long arm of Belt and Road, you purchase your expensive and good shit from NATO and your cheap and okay stuff from Russia.

China is shit at producing domestic anything. I bought a Chinese motorcycle that is a rip-off of an 80s Honda design. Great quality, but the quality of it has nothing to do with the Chinese. The design and the tooling are all taken from Honda. Their CCP-sponsored culture of nobody taking responsibility for fear of being dragged to prison or shot has pretty much cucked their domestic entrepreneurial nature.

Norinco is DOG SHIT. Period. Again this is all about quality control. If it is not done right in the factory it is the quality of raw materials that they use. There is no check and balanced system to say the quality of any said product. Personally when I did import export I had to check the quality of that product in question myself before buying in bulk.

It is really bad in China because it is fully ingrained to lie... to cheat.... to steal... to scam in any way possible. From the Whinnie the Poo to the urban peasant...to the rural peasant. It is fine to lie.... to cheat... to steal... to get ahead.

From the Chinese powered milk scandal.

Chinese Drywall

Chinese pet food

Chinese Steel Note: I posted previously about the Oakland Bay Bridge using flawed steel as of course it was shit steel covered up as what is to be used on that bridge. Here is another example of the bullshit of the quality of steel being used.

With Norinco it is the luck of the draw, which downgrades everything, which means it gets my DOG SHIT rating because of the lack of quality control from all aspects of production.
 
In case the EU's treatment of spanish exports didn't get you the clue. This is the issue with government tyranny. They can force you to lower the price but no one can force the components to EXIST. So if the prize is too low to make it, the product simply stops existing. In the case of our veggies they get thrown at the cattle and floofers around our farms. Because trying to transport it to buyers is too expensive to bother, in the case of the masks, the imports of textiles simply never happen.
This right here is why you don't want a global superpower like the EU, they will push around nations both in and out of their gay party.
 
I don't think I have seen this here yet: There are news about missing citizen reporter Chen Quishi, who had been forced into quarantine on Feb 7th.

TL;DW: His quarantine will last 24 instead of 14 days, he is alive, healthy, not infected and no contact is allowed. He might be released on March 2nd, but that remains to be seen.


The NYT did a piece about media censorship and the movement for free speech, interviewed a few people.

 
The hearing for the transfer to that shithole housing area in Costa Mesa was held today.

The judge pointed out that California doesn't have veto power and knowing how reckless they've been about transferring people against Trump's wishes, the federal agents are probably going to ignore any complaints and move them there anyhow.
If this happens, it's going to piss off most of the people who live there.


The Federal Judge is actually wrong in every way possible. There is no Federal Powers governing Quarantine and Public Health. Those are and always have been exclusively reserved to States and Localities. This is a Pure 10th Amendment issue. Powers specifically left to the Locals.
 
Norinco is DOG SHIT. Period. Again this is all about quality control. If it is not done right in the factory it is the quality of raw materials that they use. There is no check and balanced system to say the quality of any said product. Personally when I did import export I had to check the quality of that product in question myself before buying in bulk.

It is really bad in China because it is fully ingrained to lie... to cheat.... to steal... to scam in any way possible. From the Whinnie the Poo to the urban peasant...to the rural peasant. It is fine to lie.... to cheat... to steal... to get ahead.

From the Chinese powered tard cum scandal.

Chinese Drywall

Chinese pet food

Chinese Steel Note: I posted previously about the Oakland Bay Bridge using flawed steel as of course it was shit steel covered up as what is to be used on that bridge. Here is another example of the bullshit of the quality of steel being used.

With Norinco it is the luck of the draw, which downgrades everything, which means it gets my DOG SHIT rating because of the lack of quality control from all aspects of production.

They also make the banned aluminum cladding that turns skyscrapers into sparklers.
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I think this was the one in Dubai started by a man smoking on the balcony.
 
Holy shit.
This right here? This is autism. Not 4chan "lel autistic XDD" autism, no. This is legitimate, medical grade autism. This is what mothers everywhere fear when they find out they're pregnant. This is what gets put up for adoption because parents "aren't ready for this type of responsibility". This is what Midwest American idiots think comes as a result of vaccination. This is what kills families. This is what kids think of when they hear "slow". This is fucking autism. You are so fucking reported. I can't believe you bring this shit in here again and again and again. You listen here you underaged shitdicked little cumguzzler: THIS. ISN'T. FUNNY. It's not cute or charming or something that gives people a smile, it's a waste of time, a waste of space, and an eyesore. You make me worry, really really worry about the state of my generation where the hell is our world gonna go if it's run by shit-stained cuntminds like you that have NO originality and NO creative drive AT ALL. You contribute nothing at all to this board, nothing at all to your fellow peers. You are worse than a dumbass my asinine little friend, you are a black hole of faggotry and stupidity. You suck in the people around you and corrupt them with your cancerous posts. Your very existence is robbing this world of all things good. Leave this place, sell your computer, give the money to someone with brains who can wisely use it. These threads are pure cancer, happening fags. Nothing will happen
Random TXT this plz.
 
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