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Myanmar and laos on that list, Indonesia not. Interesting how they are sticking to the whole 0 cases narrative after all this time.
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Are you serious? Like, are all of you people talking about stocking up on guns so delusional that you think that societal order is going to collapse because of this? How fucking exceptional you are? Are you even adults?
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Considering how basically all of them have shitty health, anyone wanna bet on how many cows we're gonna lose to Corona-Chan?
I know Tommy Tooter's definitely going down, maybe Yaniv too
I know Tommy Tooter's definitely going down, maybe Yaniv too
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Have you ever been in an area after a hurricane or other natural disaster? Looting is common. If some people will freak out and drop all ideas of law and order over a temporary situation that they know will improve in a week or two, imagine how they will react when the length of the emergency is unknown.
Could be reverse psychology here. No other way to get commifornia cities riled up and take this seriously. People will remember if corona-chan breaks containment and becomes pandemic, but only a few far-leftists will remember a stupid tweet by Trump.
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But that is my point, it wont help to stockpile masks unless you have protocols to disinfect yourself.
Yeah, my bad for taking people seriously. I would hope that not everyone was at zombie apocalypse levels of prep but I wasn't sure because of all the people going over how fucked we are.
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It seems like medical personnel are on the younger side when dying but that's probably because they're interacting with the very sick, the ones who need hospital care, on a constant basis.
If you add them being understaffed, upping their stress level and lack of sleep and lacking proper facilities because their system just isn't up to par then you've got a setup for unfortunate deaths. That's without accounting for a mild health issue or being a smoker.
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Lmao Canada's news agency has said to stock up on shit while it's still on shelves.
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re: all around gun talk
Adding to all the great answers from previous posters and reiterating some points.
If you've never shot a gun before, DON'T buy one and hope that you'll manage to work it safely and accurately. Based on my own firearm experience (both as a learner AND a teacher), you need at least two hour-long(*) training sessions to overcome the inherent twitching and eye-closing instinct. After that, it's about an hour per gun type (meaning: pistol, revolver, shotgun [esp. pump-action], bolt-action rifle, semi-auto rifle &c.) to get accustomed to stuff like: safety, general handling (loading, unloading), proper stance (this is very important!), resolving basic malfunctions. This does not cover firearm maintenance, which is not so important to be considered at this point, as you probably don't have a gun yet.
As for the choice of a gun, well, it depends. They all have their pros and cons.
Pistols. Easy to carry, easy to hide, easy to shoot, hard to actually hit something. Get to the range, set a target 10m away from you, shoot. Now move the target to 15m, then 25m. Notice how the spread rises. That's basic trigonometry working - you've got a fairly short distance from the rear sight to the front sight. Each millimeter off on these and you'll get many centimeters off target. Now imagine you're trying to shoot a moving target, while the adrenaline makes your body literally shake (no pun intended) because you're in a fight-of-flight situation. This shit is really hard to pull off and requires a lot of training.
If you want to get a pistol, get a 9mm due to ammo availability. I'd suggest a XDM (a.k.a. HS 2000), CZ or a good old Glock. Get frangible ammo (JHP - jacketed hollow point) to reduce chance of ricocheting and penetrating walls. Train with FMJ ammo (full metal jacket) to reduce cost. Get spare mags. Don't load them to the brim to reduce chance of malfunction. For example, if you get a 19 round mag, load 15 rounds. Don't get .45 cal. The ammo is a lot bigger and heavier, meaning you can carry less of it. And the recoil is harder on you and you don't want it to degrade your accuracy even further.
Very important: train shooting with one hand. Especially your not-dominant hand (meaning: if you're right handed, don't skip training shooting with your left hand only and vice versa).
Shotguns. Great for home defense. If you're going to buy one, get a pump-action with a stock and pistol grip. Stock will keep you from breaking your nose and smashing your teeth so that you'll be able to actually fire more than once. Spend some time on the range to train proper posture or else you'll be thrown off-balance after a shot. Semi-auto shotguns are nice, but if you chamber them with low-power ammo (such as a rubber bullet), chance is they won't reload properly and you'll be in for a surprise. The only sound worse than BLAM when you want a click is hearing a click when you want a BLAM.
Rifles. In rural setting where distances might be a kind of longer than a corridor of an urban dwelling, get an AR-15 chambered in .223. In urban setting I'd go with a 9mm. In such cases, short-barreled AR-15 (chambered in 9mm) are nice, though if you're a n00b then MP5 clones with fixed stock (MP5A2 clones) are the best. They will be larger (longer) than the AR-15 but they are a Wunderwaffe for a mildly trained individual. I had total newbies on the range that could easily operate and shoot very accurately with these. Don't get the MP5K/SP5K variants (K stands for Kurz, meaning "short"). Definitely don't get the UMP - it's shite, at least compared to MP5.
As with the pistols - get spare mags, don't load them to the brim.
Revolvers. As much as I like recreation shooting with a revolver, in this case I'd skip them completely. Low capacity and hard to reload fast.
(*) This is important: not ONE two-hour session, but TWO one-hour sessions. Spaced at least a few days apart - similar to weightlifting where you don't train day after day.
Adding to all the great answers from previous posters and reiterating some points.
If you've never shot a gun before, DON'T buy one and hope that you'll manage to work it safely and accurately. Based on my own firearm experience (both as a learner AND a teacher), you need at least two hour-long(*) training sessions to overcome the inherent twitching and eye-closing instinct. After that, it's about an hour per gun type (meaning: pistol, revolver, shotgun [esp. pump-action], bolt-action rifle, semi-auto rifle &c.) to get accustomed to stuff like: safety, general handling (loading, unloading), proper stance (this is very important!), resolving basic malfunctions. This does not cover firearm maintenance, which is not so important to be considered at this point, as you probably don't have a gun yet.
As for the choice of a gun, well, it depends. They all have their pros and cons.
Pistols. Easy to carry, easy to hide, easy to shoot, hard to actually hit something. Get to the range, set a target 10m away from you, shoot. Now move the target to 15m, then 25m. Notice how the spread rises. That's basic trigonometry working - you've got a fairly short distance from the rear sight to the front sight. Each millimeter off on these and you'll get many centimeters off target. Now imagine you're trying to shoot a moving target, while the adrenaline makes your body literally shake (no pun intended) because you're in a fight-of-flight situation. This shit is really hard to pull off and requires a lot of training.
If you want to get a pistol, get a 9mm due to ammo availability. I'd suggest a XDM (a.k.a. HS 2000), CZ or a good old Glock. Get frangible ammo (JHP - jacketed hollow point) to reduce chance of ricocheting and penetrating walls. Train with FMJ ammo (full metal jacket) to reduce cost. Get spare mags. Don't load them to the brim to reduce chance of malfunction. For example, if you get a 19 round mag, load 15 rounds. Don't get .45 cal. The ammo is a lot bigger and heavier, meaning you can carry less of it. And the recoil is harder on you and you don't want it to degrade your accuracy even further.
Very important: train shooting with one hand. Especially your not-dominant hand (meaning: if you're right handed, don't skip training shooting with your left hand only and vice versa).
Shotguns. Great for home defense. If you're going to buy one, get a pump-action with a stock and pistol grip. Stock will keep you from breaking your nose and smashing your teeth so that you'll be able to actually fire more than once. Spend some time on the range to train proper posture or else you'll be thrown off-balance after a shot. Semi-auto shotguns are nice, but if you chamber them with low-power ammo (such as a rubber bullet), chance is they won't reload properly and you'll be in for a surprise. The only sound worse than BLAM when you want a click is hearing a click when you want a BLAM.
Rifles. In rural setting where distances might be a kind of longer than a corridor of an urban dwelling, get an AR-15 chambered in .223. In urban setting I'd go with a 9mm. In such cases, short-barreled AR-15 (chambered in 9mm) are nice, though if you're a n00b then MP5 clones with fixed stock (MP5A2 clones) are the best. They will be larger (longer) than the AR-15 but they are a Wunderwaffe for a mildly trained individual. I had total newbies on the range that could easily operate and shoot very accurately with these. Don't get the MP5K/SP5K variants (K stands for Kurz, meaning "short"). Definitely don't get the UMP - it's shite, at least compared to MP5.
As with the pistols - get spare mags, don't load them to the brim.
Revolvers. As much as I like recreation shooting with a revolver, in this case I'd skip them completely. Low capacity and hard to reload fast.
(*) This is important: not ONE two-hour session, but TWO one-hour sessions. Spaced at least a few days apart - similar to weightlifting where you don't train day after day.
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I doubt that we'll get to the doomers' prognostications, but I've been wrong about our little Corona-chan before. That and human nature; a desperate and terrified person is a dangerous thing indeed.
The old wisdom is that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I wouldn't tell anybody in an affluent Western nation to start prepping for the end times. Getting a means of defense, learning skills that reduce the need for premade goods, and returning to a stockpiling mentality for consumable supplies is merely hedging against calamity. If Corona-chan passes your town by then you can laugh at yourself later while still having a supply base in case of other natural disasters. I'd rather look foolish than be dead from social unrest/supply line disruptions caused by Red Lung.
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My main worry would be supermarkets getting emptied by panic buyers, and other supply chain issues leading to shortages of essentials and medicines. I have a family and I don’t want us to be hungry or unable to sort out basic hygiene. I wouldn’t know how to use a gun safely and I don’t think society is going down the apocalypse route just yet, but I can certainly make sure we aren’t out of loo roll and the kids are fed. I think it’s sensible to stock up a bit on the essentials, that stuff is always handy. Illness or local issues like bad weather can easily lead to you being unable to get to the shops/ pharmacy for a week or so. We should all have enough supplies to see us through a couple of weeks. One place I lived years back had to have stuff dropped by chopper one winter it was that bad.
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this is the same country that had their deputy health minister get infected with the corona virus while he was making TV interviews and holding public speeches along with the rest of the political elites.
they are morons, don't take them as an example of what the rest of the world will look like.
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Based on my limited understanding of biology and chemistry:
The virus essentially has to match and successfully connect with the receptor - this will be based both on shape and chemistry of a given receptor.
If you take an analogy of jigsaw puzzle pieces, some kinda fit in the wrong place, but others ft much better. The ones that kinda fit need a little bit more force than the pieces that actually match - but it will still go in.
However, this doesn't mean it's ten times more catchy as there are other factors that would effect this. For instance, maybe one sheds more Virus' than the other etc.
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This just confirms that it is a bunch of cityfags freaking out.
Dear, do you not have children? When I see a great deal on canned goods, etc. I always buy a lot. We'll eat them eventually and I don't have to keep buying them when I go to the store. I also have a chest/storage freezer I could fit in.
If this happens, I will be taking care of them, since I won't be working most likely in such a situation.
If you Doom bots get your wish, you're not flying out of anywhere. Or do you mean escape to the countryside? On behalf of country fags everywhere, allow me to ask you to stay in your contaminated petri dish. We aren’t going to be taking in city tards who are not kin to us. The nicer of us will tell you to fuck off, we're full. The less hospital ones will just shoot your ass if society has collapsed.
Dear, do you not have children? When I see a great deal on canned goods, etc. I always buy a lot. We'll eat them eventually and I don't have to keep buying them when I go to the store. I also have a chest/storage freezer I could fit in.
If this happens, I will be taking care of them, since I won't be working most likely in such a situation.
If you Doom bots get your wish, you're not flying out of anywhere. Or do you mean escape to the countryside? On behalf of country fags everywhere, allow me to ask you to stay in your contaminated petri dish. We aren’t going to be taking in city tards who are not kin to us. The nicer of us will tell you to fuck off, we're full. The less hospital ones will just shoot your ass if society has collapsed.
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People will take advantage in a societal breakdown. When I was in a country during a civil war it wasn't the war itself that worried everyone, it was the people who decided to take someone out because of a personal grudge or bad business deal. Add a couple of bodies to the overall death count during that time and no one was going to look too closely. You stayed in, shuttered the windows, barricaded the doors and let no one in until it was over.
Look at New Orleans. Shit went bad in a couple of days.
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She looks quite gaunt in that picture. Poor girl, 25 is so young.
Chinese men smoke like it’s going out of fashion. the big tobacco companies aggressively pushed their wares in China after being booted out of the west. No idea what rates are in Iran.
Couple of interesting papers out on the ACE2 receptors.
Take home messages are:
1. Number increases with age
2. Number increases with smoking
Tobacco-Use Disparity in Gene Expression of ACE2, the Receptor of 2019-nCov
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Prepping is a series of steps, starting with being ready to shelter in place. Realistically, in a disaster, most people will be trapped at home for a short period. If you are stuck without basic necessities, you won't be able to do much afterwards. Prepping for anything beyond that is probably a waste of time and money.
And yet, some of us feel compelled to go beyond the basics.
Once you have a good setup where you live, the next step is to have the means to travel. I have 3 go bags buried in the vicinity of where I live, each has enough supplies to get me through a couple weeks at 1000 calories a day. Have been maintaining them for the last 15 years, some stuff happened earlier in life so being ready to go is important to me. They're just something I check in on every 6 months, test / rotate supplies, make sure nothing has expired.
Being able to travel means you need a place to go. I have an A list, B list and C list of places, depending on what happens I have options. For each location, I know the route to get there hiking and driving. There's a hand-held low-light Garmin device along with solar charger in each bag so I don't get lost. I've been to every place on my list within the last 2 years to check what's changed, and I know the buildings I'd use to hole up if necessary.
One of the things I keep on a map is junkyards, it's usually possible to find a junker that can be made to drive again if necessary. They're also a great source of materials for improvised tools, slingshots are more effective for hunting when you are firing lug nuts. Another thing I keep on a map is a list of breweries, there's research showing bars / restaurants / sources of booze are natural locations for people to congregate during emergencies. Depending on the situation, I can make a decision on whether to approach or avoid. Another map I keep is a list of food distribution centers for supermarket chains, the warehouses where they keep canned food. Not that many people are going to know where those are located, the odds of scavenging are better in a place like that.
Where I live, it would be stupid to build a bunker. If supplies were seriously interrupted, the city would be out of food in about 5 days. No one prepares, there's a lot of condos and high density housing that would put serious strains on existing stocks. Looters don't concern me much because it's mostly liberal faggots, it's more what kind of restrictions they would want to impose after a disaster occurs. Everyone would be safer if I just left town, and I'm fine with that.
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A good thorough documentary from the Aussie/Chinese perspective, some insight into life in Wuhan.
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This shit will hit Los Angeles hard, the homeless camps will be the source of clogged hospitals and most of the deaths from the disease.
What will happen when the homies hear from the local news that a bunch of people are sick and dying? They aren't going to think it through and say "I'm sure it's just the homeless I'll be fine".
Shit can go sideways very quickly in L.A. and the next thing you know the city is burning and the Roof Koreans have zero fucks to give.
I will be giggling from my rural home.
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