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Shit. If true that is the youngest death I have seen yet.
Now that you mention it, something seems kinda odd about China's reported numbers. Normally old people and infants die from disease, yet I haven't heard any reports about infants dying. Just seems somewhat suspicious.
there was a video floating around a week or two ago of 3 little dead kids being carted out of a hospital in China supposedly died from the Corona virus
 
Fwiw the #8 most searched term on Amazon in the past two weeks has been "n95 mask". It was #3 in early February and #1 in late January, but it's been replaced with Apple products in the last two weeks.
My company has suspended travel to and from basically everywhere in Asia.
 
I’m starting to get really worried after the CDC briefing yesterdayand especially that we have Trump as president who only seems to care keeping the market going up to improve his election chances. The US is completely unprepared and we have morons in charge in addition to eliminating key resources at the CDC and NIH.

I’m going to go buy some supplies today and a respirator.
 
Dear god. Okay, first off, don't buy a fucking rifle for home defense. We're trying to avoid over-penetration here, not emphasize it. Don't get a huge-ass shotgun slug either, same deal. Yeah, you can Dirty Harry a fist-sized hole in someone, but that fist-sized hole will continue through your dog, the wall behind your dog, your neighbor's window, and your neighbor's kid. If you absolutely must have a shotgun for trying to shoot a person from fifteen feet away inside your house, go with birdshot or a less-lethal rubber load. Don't let the name fool you, "less-lethal" is still going to shatter somebody's ribcage at point blank range, cops manage to kill people with that ammo on a pretty regular basis. But at least it won't blow through three rooms of your house when you pull the trigger.

A 5.56 with the right bullet is going to overpenetrate bad guys and interior walls LESS than a pistol, this has been proven many times in many simulated tests:



Contrary to popular perception pistols readily blow through walls and meatbags alike even with jhp. (Theres also this cool phenomenon where the large hollowpoint cavity on a pistol bullet can scoop up material like thick clothing or drywall dust and pack it full, thus failing to expand and becoming a massive overpenetration hazard. You see it all the time in tests that place a few layers of denim over calibrated ballistic gel blocks.) Sure, if you're using Wolf .223 fmj with it's hard-ass jacket and steel core you're gonna see massive overpenetration but just... don't? Fire FMJ out of a pistol and it'll overpenetrate like crazy too. Like I said, research a good 5.56 expanding or frangible round like a light V-Max load and it'll have the best charicteristics in terms of putting down bad guys AND the highest probability of not leaving your house to take a stroll down the block.

As for slugs calm down my dude, I clearly noted they were an option for medium-long range shots which doesn't describe home defense. I wouldn't trust #7 or #8 birdshot for defense beyond the obvious psychological effect of being shot, because not only does it blow through walls as seen above but test after test shows that at 10-15 feet most pellets only penetrate ~4" in calibrated gel. (That usually translates to even less penetration in the real world when soft tissue isn't the only thing in a body.) The minimum the FBI recommends in that medium is 12" penetration, so at average defensive ranges it's going to create very nasty-looking but very shallow wounds while also poking holes through several walls should you miss. Kinda the worst of all worlds, tbqh
 
No idea how accurate is this, but makes you think. Anyone here is well informed regarding weird Korean cults?
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Thanks, I was wondering whenthere would be another cult fuck about. I just wrote about the Heavan's Gate cult, it's been a while since doom cults like Aum Shinriko decidedto inflict their "wonderful" prescense on the world.

Holy shit we are fucked. This disease kills EVERYONE.
To be fair, Iran is a fucking shithole and their healthcare blows.
 
Thanks, I was wondering whenthere would be another cult fuck about. I just wrote about the Heavan's Gate cult, it's been a while since doom cults like Aum Shinriko decidedto inflict their "wonderful" prescense on the world.


To be fair, Iran is a fucking shithole and their healthcare blows.
Heaven’s Gate wasn’t trying to hurt anyone. The implication is that this “death cult” may be purposefully spreading the virus. Very different types of groups.
 
Had a couple thoughts this morning while walking. Please correct me if I am wrong on these.

Started this thread on 20 January. Today is 26 February. Been just recently, within the last week or so, that we've started to see cases in countries other than China. But the number of cases so far in these countries ranges from the single-digits to the low three-digits. So far less than 50 cases in the USA, and 40 came from the quarantined ship. The USA is geographically the same size as China, and there are about 335 million of us.

Am pretty sure there were Chinese with this virus running all over the world before all these cases started cropping up. Remember early on seeing one Chinese woman in Paris celebrating because she took meds to mask her fever. But am not aware of any cases resulting from any contact that woman had with anyone in France. Logically, least to me, there should be many more cases outside China than have been reported.

Have lived only in the USA and Korea. Here in the USA, the population density overall is much less than Korea or the more settled parts of China. In Korea, least when I was there many years ago, the only place you had US-style suburbs of single-family houses and duplexes, somewhat spread out, was on the big US Army base in Yongsan (Seoul). Most Koreans lived in compounds, where one or more residences were built around a central courtyard. Get to Seoul, started seeing groups of high-rise apartments, lots of them, and lots more being built. You see the same thing in China now. Chinese cities, and there are far more of them than anywhere but India, feature tons of high-rise apartment buildings, plus many smaller apartments cheek by jowl, and still Korean-style compounds. Seal these places up, just like on the cruise ship, and there's a great environment for catching and passing respiratory diseases. True, we have US cities, like SF and NYC, that are densely populated. But we have a lot of cities that are all spread out - LA, Houston, San Antonio, and many other cities, large and small.

My points - population density has a lot to do with catching this virus. And what I am seeing indicates this was indeed an engineered virus primarily aimed at Chinese. Mutations will occur that can affect others, but doesn't seem to be as virulent as what is present in China. In the USA, look for cases in some of the more densely populated areas, but having a lot of spread-out areas is going to be a big help. Europe is much more densely populated than the USA, but still not that many cases. Logically, there should be many more, a month-plus into this.

I don't know everything, but that's the conclusions based on what I've been seeing and what I know.

This thread is literally Doomer: The Thread

Only if you let it. Step back, put things into perspective. Relax.
 
Maybe I'm paranoid and over estimating the impact this will have on the US healthcare system, but what do you guys think the chances of mandatory conscription for health care workers could be? I think people would be surprised how many nurse's do office work(despite the nursing shortage), or otherwise work outside of hospitals. If this shit gets bad enough and there simply aren't enough nurses or other healthcare workers to treat the masses do you think they would mandate some sort of service. I mean they do have every skilled health care workers name, and mostly likely address on the books.

There's no system in place for that, as far as I know.

But if things get bad I'll be working in the ED again pulling 2.0 FTE. I live for this shit.
 
I'd say somewhat fucked if you're not in an absolute clownworld jurisdiction. I'll repeat what I said above but if that /pol/ poster is right about how the virus is operating and it's effects... Shit' man I don't wanna end up living like an HIV patient. I hear that's not cheap.
I'm taking that with a grain of salt since if the combo of this being a bioweapon from China and can sterilize the male population is indeed true, China pretty much fucked itself because the NEETs, one-child thing, mostly male population, and all. But I think a couple pages back did confirm that the sterilization is false.
The whole thing went a turn for the strange when it got outside China. China, India, France, and so on went silent despite being the first to got hit while this sort of thing is happening. There was no follow-up on the cases on Egypt and Hawaii either.
 
Had a couple thoughts this morning while walking. Please correct me if I am wrong on these.

Started this thread on 20 January. Today is 26 February. Been just recently, within the last week or so, that we've started to see cases in countries other than China. But the number of cases so far in these countries ranges from the single-digits to the low three-digits. So far less than 50 cases in the USA, and 40 came from the quarantined ship. The USA is geographically the same size as China, and there are about 335 million of us.

Am pretty sure there were Chinese with this virus running all over the world before all these cases started cropping up. Remember early on seeing one Chinese woman in Paris celebrating because she took meds to mask her fever. But am not aware of any cases resulting from any contact that woman had with anyone in France. Logically, least to me, there should be many more cases outside China than have been reported.

Have lived only in the USA and Korea. Here in the USA, the population density overall is much less than Korea or the more settled parts of China. In Korea, least when I was there many years ago, the only place you had US-style suburbs of single-family houses and duplexes, somewhat spread out, was on the big US Army base in Yongsan (Seoul). Most Koreans lived in compounds, where one or more residences were built around a central courtyard. Get to Seoul, started seeing groups of high-rise apartments, lots of them, and lots more being built. You see the same thing in China now. Chinese cities, and there are far more of them than anywhere but India, feature tons of high-rise apartment buildings, plus many smaller apartments cheek by jowl, and still Korean-style compounds. Seal these places up, just like on the cruise ship, and there's a great environment for catching and passing respiratory diseases. True, we have US cities, like SF and NYC, that are densely populated. But we have a lot of cities that are all spread out - LA, Houston, San Antonio, and many other cities, large and small.

My points - population density has a lot to do with catching this virus. And what I am seeing indicates this was indeed an engineered virus primarily aimed at Chinese. Mutations will occur that can affect others, but doesn't seem to be as virulent as what is present in China. In the USA, look for cases in some of the more densely populated areas, but having a lot of spread-out areas is going to be a big help. Europe is much more densely populated than the USA, but still not that many cases. Logically, there should be many more, a month-plus into this.

I don't know everything, but that's the conclusions based on what I've been seeing and what I know.
All viruses spread more quickly in more densely populated areas. It doesn’t have to be “engineered”.
 
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