Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Shield Breaker]

Could someone please tell me if I'm going to die or not? Because I've already gone through 5 pairs of pants today, and it starts to get kinda uncomfortable after the third pair.

Eventually we all do.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I will say that while it encourages doom cooming it is pretty fascinating how rapidly speds on a messageboard for coordinated autist mocking can get info on every single little flare up in the modern age. You'd think with this kind of tech totalitarian states would be more or less immune to epidemics, except they're also stupid so the tools are squandered on them.

I’m pretty sure Putin’s secret weapon is a crack cadre of weaponized Russian Autists.

Spoiler: asking for emotional/panic help and advice

Sorry guys but can I ask for advice on calming down?
I lurked on /pol/ conspiracies and now I'm genuinely panicking- even though I know that /pol/ tried to predict HAPPENINGS before and failed. But still I can't keep my mind off them because its the type of person I am (I'm easily bothered by things like hiccups and can't make them go away). I know that there's the part of me left that some soldiers won't suddenly come up to my door and assassinate me because I made edgy jokes, I don't know why I'm freaking out like those gangstalker people now.

p-pls help; I admit I have anxiety problems in the past but flinging my shit over something that won't probably happen will not help anything.
What are calming techniques to keep my mind rational and use common sense; mostly on the freaking out over conspiracy part because my brain is trying to believe that I'm gonna die.
I know its dumb but pls help

Have you considered starting a debilitating and destructive drinking problem? That tends to relieve stress and worldly concerns.

seems china might have lied about their number, i know i can't believe it either they always seemed so trust worthy.

Coronavirus outbreak is '52 TIMES worse in one Chinese province'

Between February 9 and 23, the daily infection figure in China's Shandong Province greatly exceeded the official data, with the margin ranging from 1.36 to 52 times, a report revealed today.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Coronavirus outbreak is 52 TIMES worse in one Chinese province than officials admit as local authorities seek to hide the true number of people infected, report claims

• Daily figure in Shandong has been up to 52 times the official toll, it is said
• Shocking finding was revealed to a US-based newspaper by local officials
• Comes after a worrying outbreak was detected inside a prison in the area
• Mike Pompeo yesterday accused China of covering up the epidemic scale
• The virus has killed at least 2,771 people and infected over 81,400 globally

By MAILONLINE REPORTER

PUBLISHED: 12:50 EST, 26 February 2020 | UPDATED: 15:55 EST, 26 February 2020

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-officials-admit-report-claims.html#comments
A province in eastern China has been accused of covering up the true scale of its coronavirus outbreak by seriously under-reporting the number of its daily cases.
The health crisis in Shandong Province is up to 52 times worse than officials have admitted, a report revealed today.
Between February 9 and 23, the daily infection figure in the region greatly exceeded the official data, with the margin ranging from 1.36 to 52 times, the article said.

The health crisis in Shandong Province is up to 52 times worse than officials have admitted. The picture shows patients being treated in a temporary hospital in Wuhan, China

A Chinese medical worker is pictured checking a patient infected by the novel coronavirus
The shocking revelation was made today by The Epoch Times, a US-based Chinese-language newspaper backed by the Falungong movement.
The outlet claimed to have obtained internal documents from the Shandong Centers for Disease Prevention and Control (CDC).
Although the regional government claimed that there were a total of 755 patients in the province as of yesterday, the leaked papers showed that 1,992 people had tested positive by February 23.

The picture shows an overview of the temporary hospital in Wuhan, the epicentre of the virus

A group of Chinese doctors are pictured looking at a lung CT image at a hospital in Hubei
And on February 22, a total of 61 patients - instead of the officially stated four - were diagnosed with the deadly disease.
While Beijing claims that the number of cases outside Hubei has been decreasing to single digits in the past week, Shandong Province alone confirmed 274 new sufferers on February 20, the article said.
MailOnline cannot independently verify the authenticity of the claims.
The news comes after a worrying outbreak was detected inside a prison in Shandong.
WHO tells countries to prepare like coronavirus to strike tomorrow

The picture shows a medical worker in protective gears inspecting a CT scan image in Wuhan

Chinese medics are pictured working at a makeshift hospital in Wuhan during the outbreak
Seven guards and 200 inmates last week tested positive for the virus at Rencheng prison, the provincial health commission confirmed.
Xie Weijun, head of Shandong's justice department, was sacked over the outbreak along with seven other prison officials.
Wu Lei, director of Shandong's prison administration, said the new cases showed that 'the implementation of our prevention and control measures has not been effective'.


State newspaper People's Daily said the Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission, the Chinese authority for political and legal affairs, had set up a special team to investigate the outbreak in the prison in Shandong.
It also comes as US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Tuesday hit out at China and Iran for their response to the outbreak of coronavirus, accusing the two governments of censorship and of trying to cover up the severity of the spread of the deadly illness.
Pompeo assailed Beijing for expelling three Wall Street Journal reporters and said a free press was needed to ensure accurate information about the virus is available to the public and medical personnel.

It also comes as US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (pictured) on Tuesday hit out at China and Iran for their response to the outbreak of coronavirus, accusing them of censorship
'Expelling our journalists exposes once again the government's issue that led to SARS and now the coronavirus, namely censorship. It can have deadly consequences,' Pompeo said of China.
'Had China permitted its own and foreign journalists and medical personnel to speak and investigate freely, Chinese officials and other nations would have been far better prepared to address the challenge,' he told reporters at a State Department news conference.
Beijing rebuked Pompeo's 'groundless' allegations.

Geng Shuang (pictured), a spokesperson at China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, urged Pompeo to abandon his 'cold war mentality' and 'do more things that would fit for his position'
Geng Shuang, a spokesperson at China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, urged Pompeo to abandon his 'cold war mentality' and 'do more things that would fit for his position'.
Originating in Wuhan, the new coronavirus - known as COVID-19 - has infected more than 78,000 people inside China.
Hubei, situated in central China, accounts for more than 80 per cent of the confirmed cases and 95 per cent of the deaths globally.

The new coronavirus - known as COVID-19 - has infected more than 78,000 people in China

City authorities around China have demanded citizens wear masks while out as a basic measure to prevent coronavirus. The picture shows people travelling on the train in Shanghai
Wuhan, the provincial capital with 11 million residents, went into lockdown on January 23 in the wake of the outbreak. The majority part of Hubei then followed suit.
Overnight, the Hubei health officials reported 401 new cases out of a nationwide total of 406 and all 52 new deaths from the country.
Outbreaks outside of China, however, have escalated in the past few days. Dozens of countries are now battling the contagion, with South Korea, Italy, Japan and Iran among the worst-affected.
Globally, the coronavirus epidemic has killed at least 2,771 people, infected more than 81,400 and spread to at least two dozen countries.

There is one thing in those pictures that sort of leaps out at me. One that immediately flags a number of those pictures as staged propaganda, in order to show the illiterate citizens the hard working doctors. Look at the ones of all the Dr’s reading CT scans. Notice how they are all reading them on film? Like X-rays? That’s not how CT’s are read anymore. It hasn’t been in decades. Unlike X-Rays, CT and MRI‘s have always been digital images. They don’t have to be converted to Dicom the way X-Ray or Nuclear Medicine studies do. They are born as Native Dicom images. They used to print them on X-ray film, because old analog CRT monitors had insufficient dot pitch resolution and brightness to diagnostically read them. But these days any off the shelf flat screen tv is better than a film image. You just view the digital image directly on screen and forgo the complex messy and expensive process of laser printing and developing the film. Further how CT’s are read has changed. The Radiologist reads them in motion. Using the scroll wheel on the mouse to smoothly view the thousand+images in a series as an animated pan through the patient. This putting things in motion let’s him much more easily pick out any problems. Nobody reads CT from film anymore. It’s doubtful that a doctor who graduated in the past 15 years would even know how to read A CT from film. They just don’t present enough information. a modern thoracic CT is around 2000 images. They don’t condense this down to 16 wallet sized pictures anymore. And this isn’t even a rural or third world thing. Every place this has hit would be reading CT’s digitally on a decent computer screen. If that wasn’t available they would do a “wet read” from the screen of the CT control console itself.

The only place you will see a Doctor doing what these Doctors are supposedly doing, is on a tv show or marketing picture in which the expected audience knows nothing of actual modern medicine, but instead has a pre-existing mental image of what they think it looks like. You especially have to love how they are all gathered around the film in full protective gear. Nice touch! It makes no sense, because the guy actually reading the images can be literally anywhere. He could be quarantined at home in his apartment.

In the long run not taking action is going to hurt him more than taking extreme actions early on; He had no good options but picked the worse of the two.

What I think he should have done:
Raise the quarentine times from two weeks to a month; Everything coming in (goods, imports, etc) should be disinfected for 10 days; Close flights from Europe, Asia, and South America; Send in the military if states refuse to enforce federal policies here to virtue signal, invoke FEMA laws or use the prescdent of using the military to desegregate school as justification.

>We aren't an authoritarian shithole like China. We don't sequester sick citizens against their will in the USA unless they meet very precise criteria
This is the exact sort of ideological inflexibility that leads to the mass death that communism is notorious for.

Much of what you suggest is rather blatantly against the law. Actually against quite a few laws, and are themselves actions that are more horrifying than the WuFlu.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

@It's HK-47 At this point it might make sense to seperate the prep advice and the coronavirus subject into two different threads so people who just want to focus on the coronavirus news can do so while there is a thread for people to prepare if they feel the need to; What do you think?

 

[DNA_JACKED]

Could someone please tell me if I'm going to die or not? Because I've already gone through 5 pairs of pants today, and it starts to get kinda uncomfortable after the third pair.

Quit eating bat soup you dumb chink.

Woman treated for coronavirus again tests positive
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200227_12/ (http://archive.vn/HjykE)

Thursday, February 27, 0:13 (UTC)

Officials of Osaka Prefecture, western Japan, say a woman in her 40s, who had been treated for symptoms of the new coronavirus and left hospital early this month, has again tested positive.

The woman is a tour guide living in the city of Osaka.
She was on a bus carrying tourists from Wuhan, China, in mid-January, and tested positive on January 29.

The woman was discharged from a local medical institution on February 1, and was confirmed as virus-free on February 6.

But on February 19, she felt throat and chest pain. After several visits to the doctor, she was tested a week later and tested positive again.

The woman reportedly wore a mask and stayed at home after leaving the medical institution.

She did not go to work, and had no close contact with anyone. She is now hospitalized in the prefecture.

Prefectural officials believe that either viruses that remained in the woman multiplied, or the woman was re-infected.

An expert on infectious diseases at Osaka University says people who are infected develop antibodies, so they can usually avoid re-infection by the same virus.

However, if there had not been enough antibodies, that individual could have been prone to re-infection or viruses that had been undetected in the body could have multiplied.

Perhaps this could lead credence to the theory that coronavirus suppresses your immune system. Antibodies are not really useful if your body cant product them fast enough to combat the disease before it gets a foothold and makes you sick again (see also why vaccines dont help cancer patients directly), or the theory that the disease mutates fast enough that it can reinfect people who have already had it.

Or it could be something simpler, faulty tests (which the CDC has already dealt with less then a month ago) or an underlying condition of the woman herself.

 

[Shield Breaker]

@It's HK-47 Please name the prep thread 'The Doomer Coomer Thread.'

 

[AJneedsElocution]

Could someone please tell me if I'm going to die or not? Because I've already gone through 5 pairs of pants today, and it starts to get kinda uncomfortable after the third pair.

Get a diaper,one day u could become a star in animal control

 

[stets]

Drumpf needs to pull his head out of his ass and start taking this seriously before this deadly pandemic kills us all. I’m literally sitting on the floor shaking right now. I’m sick of the “president” shitting himself and doing nothing!

 

[mr.moon1488]

Woman treated for coronavirus again tests positive
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200227_12/ (http://archive.vn/HjykE)

Thursday, February 27, 0:13 (UTC)

Officials of Osaka Prefecture, western Japan, say a woman in her 40s, who had been treated for symptoms of the new coronavirus and left hospital early this month, has again tested positive.

The woman is a tour guide living in the city of Osaka.
She was on a bus carrying tourists from Wuhan, China, in mid-January, and tested positive on January 29.

The woman was discharged from a local medical institution on February 1, and was confirmed as virus-free on February 6.

But on February 19, she felt throat and chest pain. After several visits to the doctor, she was tested a week later and tested positive again.

The woman reportedly wore a mask and stayed at home after leaving the medical institution.

She did not go to work, and had no close contact with anyone. She is now hospitalized in the prefecture.

Prefectural officials believe that either viruses that remained in the woman multiplied, or the woman was re-infected.

An expert on infectious diseases at Osaka University says people who are infected develop antibodies, so they can usually avoid re-infection by the same virus.

However, if there had not been enough antibodies, that individual could have been prone to re-infection or viruses that had been undetected in the body could have multiplied.

I wonder if they've examined virus samples pre, and post "recovery." It almost sounds like the virus has some kind of redundancy which allows it to recover after the antibodies develop a way to kill it. Maybe a mutation that triggers a capsid change once the viral load dips too low, or something along those lines.

 

[Arctic Fox]

There are not enough thunk emojis in the world for me to use as I ponder what possible reason Russia would have to spread misinformation about Corona virus.

Besides basic bitch tomfuckery I can't think of anything. That's even assuming that the Russian gov't is behind it, and not just of rando-Russian shitposters.

While probably a bit late as our attention drifts from China to ragging on Eurotrash. But Laowhy86’s wife Vivi posted some footage she shot last year showcasing Chinese Wet Markets. This is what life looks like with no public health or food safety codes.

I don’t see any live bat. But Chinese Meat and Poultry handling practices are terrifying.

This makes me want to jump into a tub of disinfectant, Jesus Christ.

On the subject of prepping, how hard is raising basic livestock (goats and chickens) if you have a backyard?

Yes, because getting animals that can very easily contract and spread disease through milk, eggs, fecal matter and urine is a great idea instead of stocking up on canned goods and getting some basic edible potted plants. Tomatos as an example.

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Why pence? He's not a doctor

Neither is Trump. This is probably all Pence will be doing for the rest of the year, deciding on logistics and what not. The amount of shit the United States President has to wade through on a daily basis is staggering. There's a reason Obama looked 30 years older when he left office than when he started.

I told you people if it got into New York it would be bad. Well to all those people who voted autistic and disagree. how do you like me now?

I disagree and think you're a fucking autist.

 

[AJneedsElocution]

afaik new info

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

“BREAKING: California reports 1 new case of coronavirus in someone with no recent travel, no known links to previous cases - WaPo https://t.co/eUoE2b20hL”

twitter.com

 

[DNA_JACKED]

I wonder if they've examined virus samples pre, and post "recovery." It almost sounds like the virus has some kind of redundancy which allows it to recover after the antibodies develop a way to kill it. Maybe a mutation that triggers a capsid change once the viral load dips too low, or something along those lines.

Off the wall theory: being a virus, it is picking up DNA from its hosts, allowing it to fool a different host into thinking it is a different virus altogether long enough for it to overwhelm the immune system.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

afaik new info

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

“BREAKING: California reports 1 new case of coronavirus in someone with no recent travel, no known links to previous cases - WaPo https://t.co/eUoE2b20hL”

twitter.com

Yeah I noticed that... pretty shifty of them: They waited right until Trump started his speech thing tonight to announce it; You could see the dow future drop in real time.

 

[simulated goat]

I don't think it was engineered specifically to kill Chinese. I do however agree on the difference with population density. Outside of New York, Chicago, and LA public transit isn't as popular. God knows where I'm from you generally only see one or two people on a bus at rush hour. Compare that to China/Japan/New York's subway system. They spend more time in an enclosed environment with dozens of others everyday.

And a suburban separated house will not be as much of a vector as a giant skyscraper with people packed in, and who knows how the ventilation is set up. Honestly I wonder about a lot of the walk ups in New York, I've heard some buildings still have wiring that was initially set up by Edison. As in Thomas, not Con. Now imagine that with ventilation.

Seattle is getting dense AF and the Bay Area has as well. Seattle's single family homes , especially in certain districts, both upscale and not, are disappearing to make way for apartments and condos.A few years ago, there were over twenty cranes building condos that blocked each older southern neighbor from the multi million view of the space needle. The homeless shit is out of control. If shit hit the fan it could get very weird there. If one thought Amazon had fucked up one's living space when Amazon bought neighborhoods wholesale, one might spit near their buildings too. And the public defecation is off the hook.

Someone asked here about babies...early on there were a couple of stories about pregnant women patients who had babies that died soon after birth. It was before the chinese censors really cracked down, like late January. Newborns don't stand a chance.

I will finish the basic necessity prep tomorrow. I will get another month's worth of animal chow and my tetanus booster, because I'd rather get a lap dance with coronachan than boogie with tetanus anyday. If money comes through, I might find a few more things, but This is base level. Finally. Nothing like a good scavenger hunt to get the blood flowing, eh?

I haven't seen signs of prepping yet, per se. Plenty of stock and us weirdos with bleach and toilet paper giving each other a look...but there is an emptyness. Certain products are gone or very low, most of them chinese; like an empty gap where the ginger used to be- between the garlic and the shallots (another endangered, if not as popular chinese product). But it seems to be barely on anyone's radar here. It's 'that flu' the chinese got from eating soup made with some kind of aardvark.

It’s cheap and it inhibits the virus in vitro. No one seems to know why but worth further studying frankly if you’re somewhere where you can get hold of some and you know you do t react badly to it I’d have some as a just in case.

You mean I might survive this with Gin and Tonic? I hate it, but it helped the colonial brits, right?

 

[Computer Boy]

Yeah I noticed that... pretty shifty of them: They waited right until Trump started his speech thing tonight to announce it;

Politics is gonna be the end of us all.

 

[Slimboy Fat]

I remember the first time I saw a Jamaican with a blunt hanging from his mouth edging his driveway with his machete, it took him less time than the white guy used to dig his edger out from his garage.
Just remember to be polite.

I'm eay behind on this but dont use a fucking katana

Do NOT use a fucking katana unless you either know how to use one (no, practicing some swings at home is not good enough) or you are only fighting a single person and just want to be scary.

Here's what's going to happen: you're going to swing the blade, lodge it in wherever you swung at and if it isnt their cranium, they're going to be jacked up on adrenaline trying to take you with them while you try to get it out. If you're fighting someone with any weapon and they block that swing, you just either broke or dented the shit out of it. Just use a knife or a machete or a normal old longsword.

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

afaik new info

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

“BREAKING: California reports 1 new case of coronavirus in someone with no recent travel, no known links to previous cases - WaPo https://t.co/eUoE2b20hL”

twitter.com

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1232831756140732416 (http://archive.vn/KZszf)

 

[Tasty Tatty]

It also gives him any excess budget left over from Coronavirus research to infect the gays.

FTFY

 

[WinchesterPremium]

This may have all been a plan to eliminate Neckbeards
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CDC warns men about facial hair dangers as coronavirus spreads

CDC warns men about facial hair dangers as coronavirus spreads

Men may need to hack off their muttonchops, void their Van Dykes or pluck their ducktails if they plan on using a respirator, according to information from the CDC about how facial hair can interac…

nypost.com

Men may need to hack off their muttonchops, void their Van Dykes or pluck their ducktails if they plan on using a respirator, according to information from the CDC about how facial hair can interact with the devices.


A graphic released by the agency shows the fashionable facial-hair-wearer which styles will conflict with potentially life-saving respirators as the US braces for the quickly spreading coronavirus to emerge state-side.


Handlebar, walrus, and Zorro mustaches are fine, but the CDC says folks may need to lose their Fu Manchus, Dalis, and Englishes — because they could prevent respirators from making a seal on wearers’ faces.


And while a clean-shaven face is OK, stubble could cause trouble, the agency warned.


Standard beards and chops are also risky, as the hair could come in contact with a respirator’s exhalation valve, reducing their effectiveness, the graphic said.


Goatees are good to go — but only if a mask-wearer’s chin hair doesn’t cross the seal.

Face masks and respirators are being used worldwide to help prevent the spread of the coronavirus, which has reached nearly every continent in the world, with more than 80,000 cases confirmed globally.

 

[Gallofag]

An expert on infectious diseases at Osaka University says people who are infected develop antibodies, so they can usually avoid re-infection by the same virus.

However, if there had not been enough antibodies, that individual could have been prone to re-infection or viruses that had been undetected in the body could have multiplied.

Seriously this is like a virus straight out of plauge inc.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Off the wall theory: being a virus, it is picking up DNA from its hosts, allowing it to fool a different host into thinking it is a different virus altogether long enough for it to overwhelm the immune system.

I don't know about that, but one thing which I think could be possible is that upon infection it duplicates an alternate strain which automatically goes dormant and stays that way until after the fever dies down. The absolute doomsday hypothesis is that this dormant strain is capable of the same thing, since this would create an almost incurable looping effect.]

Edit:
There are viruses that go dormant (e.g. various forms of herpes)