James Arthur Watkins a/k/a "Jim Watkins" vs. Fredrick Robert Brennan (2019) - Libel tort in the Republic of the Philippines.

I mean, it's not really anything to do with him 'saying things I personally disagree with'. It's him advocating for bans on political speech that he disagrees with, and conspiring to suppress the speech of those he disagrees with. He's no different from a Bela Kun, a Lazar Kaganovich, an Abraham Foxman.
This argument is stupid. "It's not him speaking that I disagree with, it's him advocating for political changes I disagree with". If you can't speak to advocate policy what the fuck is the point? That's the Twitter/YouTube argument. You can say whatever you want as long as it doesn't bother us in some way.
 
hi yes I lived in both countries, literally 1 block away from fredrick in the philippines, and I can assure you Kyiv and Manilla are about on par with each other in terms of handicap accessibility, except Kyiv is comparatively clean and with higher air quality and less traffic.

BRO the PHILIPPINES is the ONLY CHANCE for FREDRICK to not SUFFER and I can't WAIT for him to be THROWN into DIRTY PIG POO POO PRISON because that's what he FUCKING DESERVES for SAYING THINGS that I personally DISAGREE WITH. Based and redpilled!
This is why @Null is a trustworthy site owner and ppl use KF - because he’s not unstable loon with outrage hate boners and doesn’t throw his own principles under the bus just because it might inflict harm on someone he doesn’t like or who wronged him.

It’s amazing how many people ITT are cheering for a guy with brittle bone disease to be thrown into one of the worst prison systems to suffer and die because of internet shit post beefs or because he’s not on “their side” anymore.

Fredrick will just stay safely in California. He can’t afford to buy “justice” in the Philippines.

Not that I’m surprised by this thread. Some Kiwis view legal systems as an emotional outlet for their revenge and punishment fantasies against people they hate on the internet and get real mad if you interject a semblance of reality.

(The Onionson thread is the best current example of this. Half the thread thinks the FBI will be kicking in his door down any minute and regularly fantasize about prison rape. If you point out reality you get four pages of angry sperging.)
 
This argument is stupid. "It's not him speaking that I disagree with, it's him advocating for political changes I disagree with". If you can't speak to advocate policy what the fuck is the point? That's the Twitter/YouTube argument. You can say whatever you want as long as it doesn't bother us in some way.
He's advocating for particular changes to speech laws that are intended to allow the continued oppression and even murder of billions of people.

As for his organisation of DDOS attacks on 8chan..
 
He's advocating for particular changes to speech laws that are intended to allow the continued oppression and even murder of billions of people.

As for his organisation of DDOS attacks on 8chan..
Yes, he's allowed to advocate for whatever he wants. I wouldn't even advocate arresting people for pedophile acceptance, because I very firmly believe that speech should not be regulated, especially not speech that very strictly conforms to the 1st amendment right to petition for redress.

Even people who literally want to kill me for thinking this, lol
 
I wouldn't even advocate arresting people for pedophile acceptance, because I very firmly believe that speech should not be regulated, especially not speech that very strictly conforms to the 1st amendment right to petition for redress.
Vigiliantism is always the answer. You can't larp as a roaming Furry Death Squad if you're on the government dime.
 
Doesn't USA have extradition treaty with Philippines? If he is tried in absentia he could be dragged across the Pacific to serve time. I really doubt this will turn into anything so interesting though.

US extradition treaties specifically say that the thing someone is being extradited for needs to be illegal in BOTH jurisdictions. Here is a copy of the extradition treaty:

Article 1 obligates each Contracting Party to extradite to the other, pursuant to the provisions of the Treaty, any person charged with or convicted of an extraditable offense.

Article 2(1) defines an extraditable offense as one punishable under the laws of both Contracting Parties by deprivation of liberty for a period of more than one year, or by a more severe penalty. Use of such a “dual criminality” clause rather than a list of offenses covered by the Treaty obviates the need to renegotiate or supplement the Treaty as additional offenses become punishable under the laws of both Contracting Parties.

Unless a law someone is convicted under would result in more than a year's prison sentence in both the United States and the Philippines, the US is under no obligation to extradite someone to the Philippines. Since the US isn't a retarded 3rd world country, they don't send people to jail for years for libel and therefore there's no obligation to extradite.

Obviously the US has to do this because if we have an extradition treaty with some shithole country so that we can make sure American murderers can't hide out in Guatemala, we don't want to be in a situation where a US citizen has to be extradited for breaking a law that no one would ever be convicted under in the US.

There is a 0% chance the US is going to extradite a cripple to the Philippines so he can go to prison because he said mean words to someone on Twitter.
 
Yes, he's allowed to advocate for whatever he wants. I wouldn't even advocate arresting people for pedophile acceptance, because I very firmly believe that speech should not be regulated, especially not speech that very strictly conforms to the 1st amendment right to petition for redress.

Even people who literally want to kill me for thinking this, lol
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The Cripple attacked the spirit of free speech, and happily de-platformed and destroyed several sites that allow free speech, so people laughing at him getting bonked on the head with his own petard is why it's being called karma. Again, I'm happy he can say what he wants, but this really was never about speech, it was about him using botnets to attack Jim, going against him having citizenship and then trying to be a smug two faced prick who thinks he's smarter than everyone. A legal way to attack back was used because the Cripple decided to fuck off from America to a place that doesn't have the free speech laws it has and he smugly thought he didn't even need to respond, then he fled. You can't have it all ways at all times, every place has shitty issues and in the Philippines, having to shut his mouth about disrespecting elders is the cost of his cheap living there.

A snippet of an old thing my grandpa told me when I was a kid
"I want it legal to shoot people who piss me off", Sheriff!", an old cowboy said. BLAM, he gets shot by Sheriff. "Why did you shoot him Sheriff?", asked his deputy. "He pissed me off, and out here, I'm the law"
 
Yes, he's allowed to advocate for whatever he wants. I wouldn't even advocate arresting people for pedophile acceptance, because I very firmly believe that speech should not be regulated, especially not speech that very strictly conforms to the 1st amendment right to petition for redress.

Even people who literally want to kill me for thinking this, lol
I guess it depends on where you draw that line. Brennan wants to take away the right of people to petition for redress or in fact speak about political issues at all if the content of those petitions or other speech is something that he doesn't like (or has been paid not to like, who knows at this point).

He is advocating that government take away those rights by force. I mean, there's a step between that and actually holding the gun to people's heads himself, but it isn't far.
 
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From Ron (Jim Watkins's son).

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Yes, he's allowed to advocate for whatever he wants. I wouldn't even advocate arresting people for pedophile acceptance, because I very firmly believe that speech should not be regulated, especially not speech that very strictly conforms to the 1st amendment right to petition for redress.

Even people who literally want to kill me for thinking this, lol
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I like how you actively ignore the fact that the butterball was helping in DoS attacks and using legal shenanigans to go after the creepy pig farmer as well lol. He even met with flip police hoping to get something criminal rolling.

I don't recall you going into internet defense force for the pig man.

Do you consider the DoS attacks on this site as just people expressing their free speech as well? Because if so, then you shouldn't try to prevent them from expressing it :=)
 
I like how you actively ignore the fact that the butterball was helping in DoS attacks and using legal shenanigans to go after the creepy pig farmer as well lol. He even met with flip police hoping to get something criminal rolling.

I don't recall you going into internet defense force for the pig man.

Do you consider the DoS attacks on this site just being people expressing their free speech as well? Because if so, then you shouldn't try to prevent them from expressing it :=)
He is not being charged with orchestrating a denial of service attack you stupid fuck.
 
I like how you actively ignore the fact that the butterball was helping in DoS attacks and using legal shenanigans to go after the creepy pig farmer as well lol. He even met with flip police hoping to get something criminal rolling.

I don't recall you going into internet defense force for the pig man.

Do you consider the DoS attacks on this site just being people expressing their free speech as well? Because if so, then you shouldn't try to prevent them from expressing it :=)
Not to speak for him, but Null has always advocated for free speech and that people are celebrating that "wrong speak" is being used to attempt to arrest someone isn't something a free speech advocate would ever like and that such laws are being celebrated because it's against someone that isn't liked doesn't matter, he will always defend the speech even if it is from his worst enemy and that is a very noble thing. If it had been another kind of thing that got him in trouble then I don't think Null would have such an issue with it. This board only exists because it's a free speech haven and it's never a good idea to celebrate speech being punished. As I said before, this isn't something to celebrate but no one should feel bad for him getting caught up using a shitty 3rd worldesq legal system and having it turned around on him.
 
I like how you actively ignore the fact that the butterball was helping in DoS attacks and using legal shenanigans to go after the creepy pig farmer as well lol. He even met with flip police hoping to get something criminal rolling.

I don't recall you going into internet defense force for the pig man.

Do you consider the DoS attacks on this site as just people expressing their free speech as well? Because if so, then you shouldn't try to prevent them from expressing it :=)
Do you have brain damage?
 
He is not being charged with orchestrating a denial of service attack you stupid fuck.
This is about why people would want him to get fucked somehow, not how he is getting fucked. When you implied it was because people don't like what he is saying. Stop being disingenuous, you know what you said.

"BRO the PHILIPPINES is the ONLY CHANCE for FREDRICK to not SUFFER and I can't WAIT for him to be THROWN into DIRTY PIG POO POO PRISON because that's what he FUCKING DESERVES for SAYING THINGS that I personally DISAGREE WITH. Based and redpilled! "

He was trying to pull legal shenanigens, and now they are happening to him. It's called Karma, and people like to see it when it happens IRL.

I don't think you're stupid, but you seem to have developed a soft spot for the little guy even after how he treated you, and even after how shitty and unlikable he has been as of late.
 
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This is about why people would want him to get fucked somehow,
No, it's not. Welcome to the LLP board. It is about ongoing litigation, not a place for drooling /pol/tards gallivanting that a third world nation has exercised criminal libel laws to try and arrest a cripple because the right prosecuting attorneys got paid off by the right millionaire business owner. (I should know, I made it.) Fredrick is a smug fuck and, if he's broken real laws from real countries in pursuing his petty vendetta against Jim, he will eventually eat whatever shit he deserves for that.

I have zero investment in his well-being, but I am intimately invested in not allowing this forum's user base collapse into this sort of mindless partisanship. Not just because I want people to believe in the things I do, but because I have to fucking put up with the people posting here and it's getting harder every day.
 
No, it's not. Welcome to the LLP board. It is about ongoing litigation, not a place for drooling /pol/tards gallivanting that a third world nation has exercised criminal libel laws to try and arrest a cripple because the right prosecuting attorneys got paid off by the right millionaire business owner. (I should know, I made it.) Fredrick is a smug fuck and, if he's broken real laws from real countries in pursuing his petty vendetta against Jim, he will eventually eat whatever shit he deserves for that.

I have zero investment in his well-being, but I am intimately invested in not allowing this forum's user base collapse into this sort of mindless partisanship. Not just because I want people to believe in the things I do, but because I have to fucking put up with the people posting here and it's getting harder every day.

The thread of the argument spawned from your quote was you implying people are happy to see legal trouble for him because they don't like things he said, and I am implying some find it amusing to see someone pulling legal shenanigans having them be used against them.

But no, I'm sure it's all /pol/tards who just want him to DIE for betraying them or something stupid. I thought those folks stayed on A&H anyways?
 
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