Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Maxliam]

I do wonder if the whole "feminine penis" thing is pushed in part by guys who desperately don't want to admit they're nomming on male genitalia. Probably not very PC of me but I think even if a trans chick has gotten SRS it's still kinda gay to fuck her.

Yeah, traps are gay even if they get surgery. It's cool to be a godless sodomite these days so go out there and have teh buttsecks that makes god angry and send us hurricanes and coronavirus.

Regarding someone who passes like Bailey it's more of simply convenient to call her a girl if you think about it. Trying to argue with someone who has no idea who she is (I remember when she was linetrap on 4chan) and explaining it's a dude will get people to either reject the notion or say she's a girl. If you hadn't seen her nude pics before and were shown her like say on the Amy Schumer show where she's fully clothed, you'd assume she was a girl.

 

[Cupcake Noodles]

On a different note and same-ish subject, a while ago Nikkie from NikkieTutorials on Youtube came out as transgender. To whoever doesn't know who she is, she's a makeup guru that does makeup tutorials on Youtube.

She only came out as trans because some people who knew were threatening of telling people. Whatever the case, this is wrong but what strike me as weird about her coming out video was that she has a bf/fiance where she says it was nobody's business to tell him but her. And she told him when the time is right.

Isn't something that someone should say to the person they are dating almost immediately? Like 2nd or 3rd date thing?

I'm a straight woman and I would like to know if the person I'm going to get involved with is trans from the get go. Even if it is just a one night stand or something. Maybe I'm the weird one...

 

[Muttnik]

On a different note and same-ish subject, a while ago Nikkie from NikkieTutorials on Youtube came out as transgender. To whoever doesn't know who she is, she's a makeup guru that does makeup tutorials on Youtube.

She only came out as trans because some people who knew were threatening of telling people. Whatever the case, this is wrong but what strike me as weird about her coming out video was that she has a bf/fiance where she says it was nobody's business to tell him but her. And she told him when the time is right.

Isn't something that someone should say to the person they are dating almost immediately? Like 2nd or 3rd date thing?

I'm a straight woman and I would like to know if the person I'm going to get involved with is trans from the get go. Even if it is just a one night stand or something. Maybe I'm the weird one...

I see this talking point come up a lot and I've said many times in the past that not disclosing the fact that you are trans is 100% rape by deception. I know that some people don't pass and the issue isn't there but you'd be surprised at the number of people that are duped when drunk or in a darkly-lit room.

Not to be cliche but I have a friend from college who came out as trans. Having known what they were like all through college before the sjw-craze of the 2010's, I could definitely say that the news did not surprise me. Anyway, he has expressed a huge amount of disgust at the fact that people are reluctant to share their trans status when hooking up, especially when it comes to ftms like him that tend to pass better than everyone else. He makes sure all of his partners know his identity first and foremost and look what happened? He actually managed to land a romantic partner that legit does not care and is currently his fiance. Hell, they're actually really really happy together. It CAN be done, people. But a relationship requires mutual respect and, above all, trust. You need to be honest right away or else bad shit can go down.

 

[lololololagain]

I see this talking point come up a lot and I've said many times in the past that not disclosing the fact that you are trans is 100% rape by deception. I know that some people don't pass and the issue isn't there but you'd be surprised at the number of people that are duped when drunk or in a darkly-lit room.

Not to be cliche but I have a friend from college who came out as trans. Having known what they were like all through college before the sjw-craze of the 2010's, I could definitely say that the news did not surprise me. Anyway, he has expressed a huge amount of disgust at the fact that people are reluctant to share their trans status when hooking up, especially when it comes to ftms like him that tend to pass better than everyone else. He makes sure all of his partners know his identity first and foremost and look what happened? He actually managed to land a romantic partner that legit does not care and is currently his fiance. Hell, they're actually really really happy together. It CAN be done, people. But a relationship requires mutual respect and, above all, trust. You need to be honest right away or else bad shit can go down.

I think it's easier for FTM's in dating in general, especially since like you said, They pass better and are in general more sane.

Also on the topic of "girl Dick" and rather it's "gay or not" it is. Transwomen with or without dicks have a hard time dating, I have trans friends who are nothing like the loons here and are slightly less autistic.
It's hard for them to date with or without cocks.

 

[Mako_Spark]

It's 100% a scum move not to tell a dating partner your biological sex from the very start (or ideally, before it ever comes to dating/romance.) Why would you expect people to respect your 'gender identity' and accept it as a very important 'truth' (i.e. Jazz: "I am a woman!") if you're hypocritical enough not to respect that your potential partner almost definitely has a thing of their own called a 'sexual orientation' that they would like respected and treated as a very important personal truth of theirs, too?

I'm out of the dating pool, but it seems like most of my lesbian friends (I'm straight but the majority of my female friends are lesbians, with my interests/career it's just turned out that way) have either felt personally pressured or just flat-out publicly shamed if they won't date an MTF 'transbian,' who are almost always the gross AGP types obsessed with the 'validation' of getting a real (or the grand prize, a "gold star") lesbian to sleep with them. It seems that particularly lesbians are the victims of this 'but I'm a woman on the inside so my penis is just a girldick, it's nothing like a man's penis (the dreaded 'mouthfeel' argument), I'm a girl in my soul, don't you care more about hearts not parts?' gaslighting, as if 'you just haven't found the right man/penis yet' hasn't always been asshole entitled men's opinion on lesbians... (I don't mean all men are entitled assholes, I just mean lesbians have always had to deal with a certain type of man who apparently will never understand that 'I'm a lesbian' does not equal 'ha ha that's cute, but no really, I know once you try my cock you'll see the light, so how about it?')

I've had lesbian friends say 'it felt like we were making all this progress, we could finally be out, we could even marry our girlfriends, we could speak up about 'corrective rape' and almost every sane person would agree 'that is fucked up, we need to end all of that shit' but all of a sudden, if you're a lesbian who won't date a biological male with a 'girldick' who came out as trans last week and isn't even on hormones yet, fuck you and die in a fire you transphobic, trans-suicide-causing, cis-scum TERF bitch!' Even if their main reason for not wanting to date that person isn't even that they're male - it's that they don't like a single thing about their personality and still wouldn't date them even if they were biologically female! - It's still a denial of a lesbian's right to be recognised and respected as a lesbian: a female exclusively attracted to other females.

As for MTFs who go after straight men and don't tell them... asking to get murdered and your killer acquitted on a 'gay panic" defence, much?

I feel like FTMS aren't engaging in this kind of deception nearly as much, or at least you certainly don't hear about it as much... isolated cases yes, but it's obviously a bit harder to pass off a strap-on as a penis than it is for a male to tuck, tuck, tuck (or just guilt, guilt, guilt.) And a lot of FTMS seem to still date lesbians, not straight women or men...

I'm part of a social group with a dickhead MTF and his rationale for not telling the 'fellow lesbians' he dates that he's pre-SRS trans is 'everyone lies on their dating profiles... they say they're younger, taller, thinner, use old photos... what's the difference?' Um, most people (lesbians included) who find dates online are no longer shocked to meet a 'match' who obviously has a few extra years behind them, is a little shorter than they were expecting, or who has a few more wrinkles and a couple extra pounds compared to their profile photos... but I'M ACTUALLY MALE AND STILL HAVE A PENIS isn't really in the same league as those common 'little white lies.' I'd argue it's MUCH worse even than the other common 'secret reveal' that I think is just shitty and pointless, "I'll wait until we've been on a few dates and he really likes me before I tell him I'm a single mom with two kids at home." (although I may have to rethink my opinion of this one, because the last five women I know who did this got an unexpected answer - "oh, that's actually a relief, that's totally fine, because I've got a kid/kids too with the ex and thought you wouldn't be interested in me if you knew."

Nikkie's story sounds weird... I only encountered her recently (still, pre-outing) watching some 'model quest' tv show brainlessly to relax and she was the celebrity guest, and I clocked her instantly. It wasn't her face or her mannerisms or anything - they're actually super 'feminine' - it was a combo of her voice and that she's just giant! The contestants were vying to be fashion models so they were all really tall, but she still towered over them... she looked like 7' something next to them. I know they build humans tall in her part of the world (I just googled and it says she's 6'2... no way, she's definitely taller than that and she's also built) and just looking through google images of her next to average-sized women, how did anyone not know? But good for her I guess, and great that it's worked out with her partner.

The last annoying thing is when trans people think it's okay to 'go stealth' until they feel like telling their partner because their partner is bi/pan, so they assume they won't care... one, if you actually believed that then why go stealth, and two, 'bi' usually means someone is capable of feeling attracted to both men and women - but most often not someone 'in between.' "Pan" is the tumblr-speak for pure 'hearts not parts', but in my experience a lot of young people who call themselves 'pan' are just being defensive - i.e. "please don't kick me of the LGBTQ alliance because I don't want girldick on an MTF or a pump-up "penis" on a FTM, I've actually just been calling myself 'pan' because according to the cult anyone else is transphobic scum who needs to die in a fire, but I'd never actually considered getting involved with a troon... I just figured out real fast that if you're an actual lesbian, the MTF 'Ts' feel entitled to you as sexual partners, and if you say no, they'll kick you out of the group and threaten to burn you alive."

Anyway, Nikkie shots: no one else was not shocked she's trans? She seems lovely and heaps of fun, but c'mon...

 

[T0oCoolFool]

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To be fair, most people only saw Nikki's face. You might see her body if you follow her stories on Instagram or something, but a bulk of her fanbase watched her Youtube videos, which are always zoomed up close on her face and really blown out with lighting and filters. I always thought she was just a fat, unattractive, and masculine woman. What I find amazing is how she apparently took puberty blockers and yet still ended up 6'2.

I actually thought of Jazz when the whole Nikki bullshit came out. Nikki had a similar upbringing. Nikki liked girly things at a very young age. Instead of Nikki's mother just telling her son that it's okay for boys to like makeup, she realized there was something "wrong" with Nikki and took her to a doctor for it:

"Growing up, I think the number one thing I’m most thankful for is my mom,” de Jager said. “She has been there for me since day one. She has always supported me, always accepted me. And that is everything you need as a kid. A parent that understands and listens and respects.”


According to de Jager, her mother recalled being sure that she was carrying a daughter when she was pregnant, even though that’s not what everyone presumed when she was born. But because her mother recognized in de Jager the behavioral pattern now established in modern medicine as “consistent, insistent and persistent” gender expression, she said her transition began more than a decade ago, when she was still a child: “I have literally grown up and transformed into me in front of all of you.”


By the age of 6, de Jager says she grew her hair out, and was wearing girl's clothes by age 7 or 8. By the time she was 14, de Jager had started taking hormones and "growth stoppers" to prevent her from growing even taller (she is already 6' 2''). She grew up in and continues to live in the Netherlands.

It's just so messed up. Jazz and Nikki had their childhoods robbed and their bodies destroyed, all because their parents couldn't handle a child that didn't conform to gender stereotypes.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

To be fair, most people only saw Nikki's face. You might see her body if you follow her stories on Instagram or something, but a bulk of her fanbase watched her Youtube videos, which are always zoomed up close on her face and really blown out with lighting and filters. I always thought she was just a fat, unattractive, and masculine woman. What I find amazing is how she apparently took puberty blockers and yet still ended up 6'2.

I actually thought of Jazz when the whole Nikki bullshit came out. Nikki had a similar upbringing. Nikki liked girly things at a very young age. Instead of Nikki's mother just telling her son that it's okay for boys to like makeup, she realized there was something "wrong" with Nikki and took her to a doctor for it:



It's just so messed up. Jazz and Nikki had their childhoods robbed and their bodies destroyed, all because their parents couldn't handle a child that didn't conform to gender stereotypes.

You know, on reddit I recall a man saying that back in the 80s his violently unstable mother dressed him and convinced him he was a girl for the first five to seven years of his life due to her hatred for men. He was taken by CPS, rehomed, and rather rapidly turned back into a boy. He grew up a healthy, stable-ish (he was on reddit) intact man who is not dead from a gunshot to the head. Nowadays the mother would have been encouraged and CPS would have been dragged through the mud for "suppressing a beautiful trans child and supportive mother". And that's why this entire "movement" after gays were allowed to marry and the insanity ramped up 300% makes me legitimately want to vomit.

 

[Muttnik]

You know, on reddit I recall a man saying that back in the 80s his violently unstable mother dressed him and convinced him he was a girl for the first five to seven years of his life due to her hatred for men. He was taken by CPS, rehomed, and rather rapidly turned back into a boy. He grew up a healthy, stable-ish (he was on reddit) intact man who is not dead from a gunshot to the head. Nowadays the mother would have been encouraged and CPS would have been dragged through the mud for "suppressing a beautiful trans child and supportive mother". And that's why this entire "movement" after gays were allowed to marry and the insanity ramped up 300% makes me legitimately want to vomit.

Reminds me of Sleepaway Camp.

 

[Free the Pedos]

Reminds me of Sleepaway Camp.

I was thinking the exact same thing! I wasn't sure if anyone remembered that movie, though. Way ahead of its time.

 

[MiniMuffin]

I think a lot of trans who “pass” well might be afraid to tell their potential partners they’re trans because they’re worried about being bodily attacked. It’s a fact that a LOT of trans folks get attacked and sometimes murdered. They’re a very high risk group.

 

[Muttnik]

I think a lot of trans who “pass” well might be afraid to tell their potential partners they’re trans because they’re worried about being bodily attacked. It’s a fact that a LOT of trans folks get attacked and sometimes murdered. They’re a very high risk group.

That's definitely true. But with that said, they are no better if they choose to deceive and lead on potential romantic partners. You can't say that you like or care about someone in the same breath as not telling them who you really are. It's a harsh truth but lots of people would not consent if they found out the person they were having sex with was trans. And without that consent, the relationship is now forfeit. Even if it's just about hooking up, disclosure is important. Sometimes, a person is just as likely to murder you post-sex when they find out the truth as they are if you told them right away.

 

[Muttnik]

Sorry to double-post.

Jazz and his family read the shitty book meant to confuse vulnerable children. I assume that this video is recent because Jazz looks HUGE. The subtitles cover up most of his lower torso but that castrato body is really starting to show itself.

 

[MiniMuffin]

The part about Jazz loving backflips and soccer... sigh. Probably both those activities will be lost to him forever. Probably most forms of dancing too. Anything that requires spreading the legs very far or kicking very high must be painful and hard on the exceedingly fragile stink ditch.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

I think a lot of trans who “pass” well might be afraid to tell their potential partners they’re trans because they’re worried about being bodily attacked. It’s a fact that a LOT of trans folks get attacked and sometimes murdered. They’re a very high risk group.

They aren't very bright, then. "Gee, I'm going to hide my true sex on account of all those trans folk being murdered, and I'm scared I might be murdered too. Best to build a relationship on lies and hope my partner is a reeaaalll forgiving type when the time comes to take my pants off."

Most people, those who aren't going to flip into a rage and murder you, really don't fucking appreciate being lied to. Not telling them you have a dick in your pants isn't the same as lying about being allergic to peanuts because you don't like peanut flavored things, for example. For the example you gave, as true as it may be for some of these people, is a prime example of escalating something from bad to worse in any case. Worst case scenario: You're murdered. Best: You've built a relationship on lies and are not trustworthy, having no one to blame but yourself when your partner understandably leaves.

 

[MiniMuffin]

I’m not saying the fear of being attacked is a good excuse to lie to your partner about something as important as this. It isn’t. I just wonder if that’s why they do it.

 

[Positron]

"Jazz and Friends National Day of Reading", where are the "friends"?

 

[Muttnik]

I’m not saying the fear of being attacked is a good excuse to lie to your partner about something as important as this. It isn’t. I just wonder if that’s why they do it.

I know there are some sleazy people in the mtf community--not ALL, obviously, but a vocal chunk--that get off on tricking straight men through not disclosing, often going out to dimly-lit clubs where everyone's drunk and picking up some gullible bastard for a night of fun. For some sickos, this shit is a fetish. Again, not ALL. But some. And that's a scary thought.

I don't see Jazz doing something like that but I could see him acting like a jerk when someone doesn't want to bone him. At the rate he's ballooning though, I see sex of any kind about as possible as us all turning into a bunch of 400ft tall platypus-bears with pink horns and silver wings.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Gee, I'm going to hide my true sex on account of all those trans folk being murdered, and I'm scared I might be murdered too

It's bullshit. The reason they are doing is is pure narcissism. Narcs need outside validation constantly. Troon narcs are using others for identity validation. They go as far as raping them without giving a fuck about the feelings and sexual boundaries of their partners. They are selfish, lying monsters.

Fear of being attacked - my ass. It's fear of not getting their precious identity validation. They do everything to get it.

I don't think Jazz is going to do it tho since he can't stop talking about his neovag & troon issues. Also his genitals were butchered - even for srs standards. Even worse than srs is a failed srs.

 

[KiwiFuzz]

I've said it before and will say it again: the best outcome is for him to hook up with some lesbian who isn't super interested in sex, move to Sedona, and sell organic essential oils. Being 350 lbs is in no way a disqualification for this lifestyle.

 

[fhqwhgads]

I think a lot of trans who “pass” well might be afraid to tell their potential partners they’re trans because they’re worried about being bodily attacked. It’s a fact that a LOT of trans folks get attacked and sometimes murdered. They’re a very high risk group.

This isn't true. At least, not for white trans people who are actually less likely to be murdered than non-trans people. Black trans people have a higher homicide rate, but the risk factors are them being black, gay and likely engaging in high-risk activity (prostitution).

Now, as for the prevalence of crime in trans people themselves - in the UK, 1 in 50 inmates are trans (MTF). Either they're offending at higher rates than the normal population, or dudes are thinking that being a chick will give them an easier ride or even access to the women's prisons. But if a person says they're trans, then they must be trans, and how dare you for questioning their gender identity you disgusting transphobe.