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Ever since this stuff started and I've been trying not to touch my face, shit keeps happening to my eyes. They're itchy or a gnat flies in or I have to fish out an eyelash. I swear they're out to kill me.
Wear sunglasses. I dont know about other countries but down here in Aus its practically expected for everyone to wear them outside. I've just started keeping them on in places like shopping centres too so I can't touch my eyes at all while keeping them protected.
 
Wear sunglasses. I dont know about other countries but down here in Aus its practically expected for everyone to wear them outside. I've just started keeping them on in places like shopping centres too so I can't touch my eyes at all while keeping them protected.

For once I'm glad that the eyeglasses I always wear outdoors are large glasses that cover everything.
 
The people who are leaving the infected zones by corona virus are so exceptional and the leaders, government, people who works in borders control and other authorities are letting these people to enter in these zones without thinking before.
We are truly living in a gay timeline, right now.
 
The problem is, the Left has been promising free shit for as long as I've been alive, and one of their key issues is free healthcare. The only way to counter that is to get the legacy media to admit that socailist medicine would literally kill us all in a deadly pandemic. Good luck with that, because ORANGE MAN BAD.
Trump derangement syndrome is at level 9999. Leftists spend more time rewriting history instead of studying it. If this weren't the case, then they would admit that centralized healthcare would be incredibly inadequate to handle ANY epidemic (or pandemic in this case). Even currently we can see it's affect on China's handling of COVID. No one is willing to admit that healthcare would be rationed and naturally the more "valuable" citizens would get top tier care anyways. I'm sure Stalin, Castro, and Hitler had piss-level care.
 
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I'd like some input on this stuff. Talked to some people about the virus and interesting points were brought up.

The following are claims, don't take it as fact.

The Wuflu originated from Murica. This is claimed by both Russia and Japan, so it's not some kind of Chinese "murica bad" statement.
There's a total of 5 clusters, China got case "C", however all 5 cases can be found in Murica. Iran has 2 other cases. Many die from the flu every year, it's just like Aussie bushfires, therefore no one really gave a fuck.

Last year in June and July, many people died from the flu. It was ultimately misdiagnosed, as it was actually some kind of Coronavirus. People thought it was due to vapers, however after testing on mice, this was ultimately disproven.

Japan made this claim because there's this couple who never contacted any Chinese but was diagnosed with the virus. They however did visit Hawaii, as many Chinese did as well, since it's a popular tourism destination. Here's Japanese news with Chinese translations. A third case from Hawaii.
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Assuming the translations aren't just lies, here's what's in it:
- Japanese returning to Nagayo from Hawaii, diagnosed with "the flu" in Hawaii
- Japanese diagnosis shows it's not just "the flu", it's actually the new coronavirus
- The person never contacted any Chinese
- This is why Japan isn't laying the blame solely on China, and they are openly questioning the true origin
- America doesn't want to test for the virus, claimed there's issues with the [I guess, testing kit]
- Hawaiian politicians already acquired testing kits from Japan

So to summarise...
- Russia and Japan think the virus might have originated from America
- Many cases relate to Hawaii
- Bats and wet markets whatever weird animal as filthy as they are, isn't the originator, but rather the catalyst (if my understanding is correct which it's likely not)
- People who have never contacted Chinese got the virus

Obviously, they might have contacted someone who got the virus from Chinese. However these claims do make sense. The Flu is something people assume and live with, yearly deaths big deal, so it wasn't really looked into. This is similar to Australian bushfires, it's "part and parcel" for residents of Australia.

I neither believe nor deny this theory. It just sounds plausible and worth sharing. I've been quite vocal with who I blame and I'll continue to do so.

I also learned some interesting stories from a friend that worked in one of Australia's P4 lab, it shocked and disgusted me, which also adds to many stories/cases we've seen here.
This person is a researcher. They were conducting weird experiments on some kind of scary pathogen found on some oddball host, the pathogen was kept and developed in the lab for experiments.

Lunch time came, many researchers couldn't be bothered to execute the correct procedure demanded by a P4 lab. They just took off to fetch their feed. (This person isn't some fucktard so this person followed the correct steps)

Later, the lab director learned about the fiasco. He was livid, yelled and bashed these researchers and cited how irresponsible and disastrous their act is.
So yeah... P4 lab, shiny and strict on the outside but irresponsible fuckwits could roam the premise. There's many rules that people just can't be fucked to follow.

I also learned about an interesting factoid regarding to the Chinese treatment of the virus.
- Many deaths of the virus is due to suffocation
- Suffocation is a consequence of sputum clogging up breathing system... whatever it's called I'm no medical wiz
- Medical ventilator exacerbates the clogging
- So every now and then, they would use some medical equipment to declog, ie suck out all the crap that's causing breathing difficulties
- Due to this alone, virus deaths decreased by 50%

If all this turns out to be true, then the Chinese are fucking saints which is a pathetic reflection on how our shitty politicians are handling the virus. Yeah their numbers are underestimated, times it by 2 or 3, better than the "we aren't releasing any because it will cause panic" shit from our "servants", FFS. Does not matter, all we have to do is times the death toll by 50, then maybe another 2 or 3 to get a better interval. None of these are compliments, it takes a lot to be worse and slimier than corrupted politicians of China.

I miss these.
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I swear we may have to start having infected people get chips put in them to track them all because we can't trust them to actually quarantine themselves in their homes.
That will make us far far worse than China and it's beyond reprehensible.

As for the vote, I'm going for Iran. China got the big hit already. About half a dozen factories I'm in contact with have gone through and no longer exist. They are angry but can't do shit. However this virus shit is in a major downward trend and if China's good at anything, it would be the ant people mentality. They've seen way worse that just some stupid virus. Unless the virus resurfaces... causing a second fucking boom... then we're all fucking doomed.
 
I swear we may have to start having infected people get chips put in them to track them all because we can't trust them to actually quarantine themselves in their homes.
That'll make a lot of fundies flip their shit because of Mark of the Beast spergery, and the tankies will ree because it'll be Literally Hitler making Neo Dachau.
 
That will make us far far worse than China and it's beyond reprehensible.

As for the vote, I'm going for Iran. China got the big hit already. About half a dozen factories I'm in contact with have gone through and no longer exist. They are angry but can't do shit. However this virus shit is in a major downward trend and if China's good at anything, it would be the ant people mentality. They've seen way worse that just some stupid virus. Unless the virus resurfaces... causing a second fucking boom... then we're all fucking doomed.

It's just a frustrated rant, I don't actually think that. But I wish people would have more common sense about this.
 
So yeah... P4 lab, shiny and strict on the outside but irresponsible fuckwits could roam the premise. There's many rules that people just can't be fucked to follow.
You may be surprised to know that less than 40% of healthcare workers comply with recommended hand washing guidelines.

Aside from that, everything about the virus originating in the USA is absolute nonsense. This thing spreads like wild fire. Follow the trails of dead.
Also, it kills medical staff. If we thought US doctors were dropping from "the flu" there would be alarms going off.
 
That'll make a lot of fundies flip their shit because of Mark of the Beast spergery, and the tankies will ree because it'll be Literally Hitler making Neo Dachau.

Those fundies will always flip their shit about the Rapture. I've seen enough of that to know.
 
The Wuflu originated from Murica. This is claimed by both Russia and Japan, so it's not some kind of Chinese "murica bad" statement.
There's a total of 5 clusters, China got case "C", however all 5 cases can be found in Murica. Iran has 2 other cases. Many die from the flu every year, it's just like Aussie bushfires, therefore no one really gave a fuck.

Are you telling me that bitch Corona-Chan was an Amerimutt this whole time????

I'll guess we'll have to Americanize her now. All I can think of as a good western counterpart, is Corona-Chad, so she will have to be a he now, which given the situation, seems to fit.

Someone draw this burger loving yank.
 
Those fundies will always flip their shit about the Rapture. I've seen enough of that to know.
Oh no! Wuflu and locusts! That's like two whole horsemen! This is TOTALLY the Rapture. Because stuff like Spanish Flu, World Wars, the Great Depression, and the Dust Bowl just didn't count.
I think every time some idiot tries to predict the Rapture, it gets held back by two years. So because of that, we now have to wait until 3046. I mean 3048. 3050. 305-... You know what? Nevermind.
 

That's the actual FDA link. And yes. They really don't say shit... Why even make a communicate if you say nothing? I know politicians love to talk without actually speaking but the FDA shouldn't do it.

This is the FDA trying to warn people after being told they are explicitly not allowed to warn people.

I like how people are calling this the #TrumpFlu despite him literally waging a trade war on China.

They are so, so, SO desperate. God, I hope the American voters don't fall for it.
 
Are you telling me that bitch Corona-Chan was an Amerimutt this whole time????

I'll guess we'll have to Americanize her now. All I can think of as a good western counterpart, is Corona-Chad, so she will have to be a he now, which given the situation, seems to fit.

Someone draw this burger loving yank.
It's a plausible theory, but I don't really believe it. There's Japan being sceptical.


Aside from that, everything about the virus originating in the USA is absolute nonsense. This thing spreads like wild fire. Follow the trails of dead.
Also, it kills medical staff. If we thought US doctors were dropping from "the flu" there would be alarms going off.
Yeah the medical staff case is certainly a major flaw of this theory. However, we do have far better standards and way way more medical staff per population group. China is the opposite. Bad hygiene standards and one doctor for every 20,000+ people, along with a far greater population and density.

So one weird medical staff death, let's say it's a 0.01% chance from contacting someone with the virus.
In China, this chance is drastically higher since there's far more people assigned to one medical staff. The 0.01% suddenly becomes 1% or even a lot higher.
The death toll is going to be greater as well, along with fuck ups and shitty behaviour since Chinaman land has 1.4 billion fucking people. That's way too much.
So mathematically, this theory still holds, hence I'd say it's plausible. Not that I think it's the case at all (I don't), it's just worth entertaining. That said, I'm waiting for a response from our thread medical expert.

They are so, so, SO desperate. God, I hope the American voters don't fall for it.
They have a special case, it's caused "Orange Derangement Syndrome", how dare someone from a party I dislike get voted in, Democracy is compromised by Russia because the one party I want to win forever didn't win, oh and it's not a dictatorship I'm asking for, Democracy dies if that one party doesn't win.

The extent these fucktards whine and politicise everything is in itself a fucking disorder.
 
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Are you telling me that bitch Corona-Chan was an Amerimutt this whole time????

I'll guess we'll have to Americanize her now. All I can think of as a good western counterpart, is Corona-Chad, so she will have to be a he now, which given the situation, seems to fit.

Someone draw this burger loving yank.

I'd draw a Bald Eagle with a gun.
 
@AltisticRight not true basically. It’s not arising in America.

Couple of half-right things, like yes, pneumonia with cytokine storm drowns you in your own fluids and yes you can aspirate out some of that muck in the lung. That’s normal treatment for some cases.
The market may be the origin or the index case may have been brought in and amplified from there - we will probably never know.

It’s a given that humans had some kind of Coronavirus - they do cause mild colds, and that’s normal. This specific strain has IMO been around since at least last October or November - before that I don’t think we can say so.
The five clusters thing sounds like a misunderstanding of the phylogenetic studies.

Basically though, the theory is bollocks
 
@Otterly




I also learned about an interesting factoid regarding to the Chinese treatment of the virus.
- Many deaths of the virus is due to suffocation
- Suffocation is a consequence of sputum clogging up breathing system... whatever it's called I'm no medical wiz
- Medical ventilator exacerbates the clogging
- So every now and then, they would use some medical equipment to declog, ie suck out all the crap that's causing breathing difficulties
- Due to this alone, virus deaths decreased by 50%

That doesn't sound too different to bronchitis?

But anyway, more and more ventilators these days have a nasal high flow mode which is designed to get all the shit like mucus out of your lungs (this is before or after being intubated). It will often come out of the mouth which makes some people freak out but all that means is that it is doing what it should.

Being on a ventilator itself isn't too great. A fair number of people get VAP - ventilator associated pnumenonia - which can be deadly.
 
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