Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Even the n95’s are of limited benefit. Most Corona Virus’s are small enough to penetrate them. The masks only become useful in a dense contact situation. Such as healthcare workers providing direct care to infected patients. For normies the only place they might provide some benefit is in a densely packed situation. Like an Asian commuter train. There is almost no place in the US that would equal those those types of dense human contact. While airborne the biggest risk will be surface contact. Hence wash your hands a lot and use hand sanitizers. The average persons greatest risk of airborne infection will be from those you live withor work very closely with.
Is their a type of mask that work the best for this? I have some N95's but I also have a couple gas masks on hand.
 
Greece, maybe. You need to ask a local.

Hungary will go into border defense mode. It will not be abandoned unless the virus lethality goes to the double digits and literally decimates us. Than the border maybe abandoned since the soldiers can not man it. I except lead hosing for migrants in that case as the HSDF and cops plus border guards go into panic and CoC breaks down, leaving them without precise orders. Half will flee, the other half go berserk on the migrants. Massive casaulities as they run out of ammo.
Border Hunters had to do a test (not lowered for female ones) part of which is to assemble a handgun in a minute blindfolded. They were trained specifically to handle migrants in combat, they are not smuggler hunters and import package inspectors.

Until then , local trust in the Hungarian Self Defense Force is high. Soldiers are regarded as patriots for whom you give your seat up.

Migrants will increase Orban's popularity as he fends then off.

But if the plague takes out a lot of elderly and middle aged voters, he is in trouble. Also in trouble if he mismanages it.

And no Hungarian goverment has given healthcare any care since WW2. We are at Iran levels and the rest of the 2nd world is not much better either. China is better off.
So you don't suppose we'll see Huns going medieval on migrant trains trying to beat down the proverbial gates?

Serves them right for shafting Assange

He said "medically high-risk", woman in her late 50s.
Could be a heavy smoker with AIDS?
 
So you don't suppose we'll see Huns going medieval on migrant trains trying to beat down the proverbial gates?


Serves them right for shafting Assange


Could be a heavy smoker with AIDS?


Not unless Corona chan becomes as deadly as ye olde Pestilence and takes oit the leadership. Than all bets are off and it is likely some armed forces would go into remove unter-kebab mode for at least some time.

I just expect more fences, more tear gas and more baton to the face, and Soros-agents reeing hard.
 
WHO have handled this fucking horrendously, the fact they are not calling it a Pandemic because the political effect on China and the financial truly shows their bias.

The fallout is going to see China fucked quite frankly and a lot of their industry will be moved elsewhere I feel at the end because of investor but also political reasons. Their sheer incompetence has created a fucking recession.
The biggest impact of corona-chan will not be medical, it will be political / economic.

It takes about a month to load a ship heading out of China, 2 weeks for it to get anywhere, and 4 weeks for it to be fully unloaded. Other countries are not getting hit by shortages yet, but April will be an interesting time. China's not exactly slowing to a crawl, but various sectors - semiconductors and telecommunications especially - are going to hit a wall. Huawei, interestingly enough, has no production facilities in Wuhan.

Something people don't understand about Hubei province is why it's being industrialized. China was running out of workers in other provinces, companies were coming there for access to people. It's a cheap place to build new factories and there's a workforce that can be trained up rapidly for labor-centric tasks.

The big downside to the fall of Wuhan is factories have been shut down. I haven't seen anything to indicate industry is spinning back up, the only company I've heard about is Foxconn and they are bussing people in from other provinces. Without a labor force, critical components are not being created, and there's really nothing anyone can do about it.

So I'm sure markets are looking at this and reacting, but I'm not sure there's going to be a complete pull out so much as an adjustment to supply chain economics. Whoever is installed as the new provincial governor will have marching orders to crack down on sanitation. Factories will move production of important stuff elsewhere, and existing facilities will be repurposed to other tasks. Locals will adapt to whatever happens because they have no choice in the matter.

What concerns me is what this disease reveals about the frailty of supply chains. Going forward, if someone knows that a critical component is being produced in a specific factory, all they have to do is make it hard to transport that component. There's a reason China cracks down on the Uygurs and it ain't religion, it's because they realize these guys would be likely candidates to screw up those supply chains. A small group of dedicated opponents could impact the global economy, it's kind of strange to think about.
 
Stonks are important very important. Don't panic, consume product and get excited for next product. The whole point of global trade, was to help prevent a 3rd world war. Any country who tried to start a war would be committing economic suicide. Turns out preventing one apocalyptic scenario just leaves us vulnerable to another.
Would be a shame for this virus to ruin the grand economic plans of the globalists.

That said - they're still going to be seeking the most efficient way to produce and deliver products. The replacement for globalism would be regionalism, which is worse in many ways.

Would love to get back to having economic activity be internal to each nation, but alas we don't live in such times. Instead, someone gets sick half a world away and US corporations have to sacrifice profits for a year. Downstream, an economic downturn emboldens the socialists and leads to the adoption of reactive policies that serve no one very well but make sense to a strict set of moralists. Goldman Sacks knows more about economic activity than anyone on Earth, but they don't account for the fact there's a large youth movement with designs to overturn the world order.
 
Is their a type of mask that work the best for this? I have some N95's but I also have a couple gas masks on hand.

Soap, running watter, avoiding large crowds and crowded rooms, good food supplies, proper procedure when dealing with clothes, clean your fucking doirknobs.

That's really the best things to do. P100 is fine too. But less important than these.
 
Trump just said those that are healthy may go through a "process". Not what you love to hear.

Viral pneumonia is a hell of a process.

Honestly I don't really have a problem with this press conference except for the fact that it's about two weeks late.

Situation on the ground is that a week ago nobody was taking it seriously, a few days ago some medical groups started sending around their old Ebola information with COVID-19 copy-replaced in there and started PPE and ICU training sessions. Next week we should see triage tents opening up in ED parking lots at some hospitals.

We're running into the same problem we had with Ebola where there's no actual central authority to coordinate anything like this and continual confusion about the chain of command though.
 
https://www.trouw.nl/binnenland/aan...ilie-van-coronapatienten-ook-besmet~b5d4845e/

The number of confirmed cases in the Netherlands went up to 6. Family members of both of yesterday's cases have been tested positive and have been put in isolation. A day care one the infected children went to has been closed down and will remain closed for two weeks. The woman who was one of yesterday's first two cases works at a hospital, but hasn't been in contact with any patients. They are tracking down the people she has been in contact with and they will monitor these people for the coming two weeks.

Dutch hospitals have reserved around 100 beds in special rooms for future cases.
Rip that Occult guy on YouTube, Styhexenhammer666
 
I swear some people think government-run health care is some magic panacea that can solve all the US's medical problems.

It kinda is though. Most problems would be solved with a federal mandate that drives down costs and encourages getting help.

This isn't even to rag on the idea of a private system without insurance companies. Thing is, how would you implement such a system?
 
Viral pneumonia is a hell of a process.

Honestly I don't really have a problem with this press conference except for the fact that it's about two weeks late.

Situation on the ground is that a week ago nobody was taking it seriously, a few days ago some medical groups started sending around their old Ebola information with COVID-19 copy-replaced in there and started PPE and ICU training sessions. Next week we should see triage tents opening up in ED parking lots at some hospitals.

We're running into the same problem we had with Ebola where there's no actual central authority to coordinate anything like this and continual confusion about the chain of command though.

This is a disastrous mess.
 
Going to COSTCO to prepare today lads. What should I get?
LOL Good fucking luck, mate. I think, "Grab whatever looks tasty and reasonably nutritious, and gtfo" is the best advice I can give you.

My Facebook feed has had no mentions at all of the onrushing pandemic until this morning, when suddenly half of my friends list is at various Costco locations at 9:45 AM, waiting for them to open at 10:00, and dismayed because they had to park at the ass-end of the lot and there are OMG SO MANY PEOPLE waiting in front of the doors. And only now are they all finally admitting that they've been quietly worried about the coronavirus for a couple of weeks now. They thought they were doing the smart thing by finally going to Costco today, and look at all these fucking people!

I had to sit on my hands for a couple of minutes because I was going to type something regrettable if I didn't.

Yesterday, Reddit threads on the subject reported that Costco stores all over the place are completely out of toilet paper, hand sanitizer, disinfectant cleaners, rubbing alcohol, and boxes of gloves, and were running very low on things like paper towels, baby wipes, bags of rice, boxed mac'n'cheese, and Spam.

So yeah, I'm feeling immensely smug right now that I have everything I need, and have for over a week, and I don't have to go out and deal with that shit. I'm going to stay home to clean out and rearrange my freezer.
 
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