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How much longer to go before this officially becomes deadlier than the flu?
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No it isn't. In China, with their primo health care, the death rate seems to be 3.6 percent for people in their 60s. Even at 80+ it's less than 15 percent.
Depends by what metric, but the CDC currently estimates flu deaths at 18K-46K this year *so far* with 310K-560K hospitalizationsHow much longer to go before this officially becomes deadlier than the flu?
You said death sentence.No it’s not more deadly than the flu even though the flu is 0.1% in the US?
or 90 proof vodka. You can disinfect and get drunk win/win. or if you really want to take a walk on the. wild side everclear.
Also there is the fact that Biden won Carolina and showed that Bernie just isn't gonna get handed the Nomination.View attachment 1170035
Hey look, the DOW spiked back up almost 1,300 points--making it the single largest one-day gain since 2009--now that people are starting to chill out about this, again.
It’s pretty bad for those who are elderly, I think that nursing home is going to get rocked. I hope you’re right the death rate will come down but China’s been lying through their teeth about all of this so we won’t know for some time until the US, Italy, South Korea, etc gets through a few months of this.You said death sentence.
And I think the death rate will be adjusted down by quite a lot in the end because it's starting to seem like it's been out infecting people for probably 2 months longer than earlier thought, so the number of mild cases is probably significantly higher.
History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man....
that's called the dead cat bounce. the only thing that's going to keep things afloat is rate cuts and liquidity injection, which japan and china are already on top of. at worst, expect negative interest rates (View attachment 1170035
Hey look, the DOW spiked back up almost 1,300 points--making it the single largest one-day gain since 2009--now that people are starting to chill out about this, again.
What's the difference between ethanol (>70%) and soap (NaOH?), then? In the context of keeping your hands clean from both bacteria and viruses.
Ethanol disrupts membranes of bacteria and capsids (the shell) of viruses.
soap helps to dislodge stuff. What actually does most of the cleaning is the physical rubbing of hands to help the foam and water lift stuff off.
So a lab bench you can squirt with a mist of ethanol way easier than scrubbing with soap, it evaporates (or gets passed through a flame and burnt off) and there you go, everything is dead. but for hands, soapy water is probably better. Just look up how to wash your hands properly - there will be loads of clips online.
So soap doesn't actually have an effect on the membranes of either bacteria or viruses? A contact effect only happens with ethanol?
No soap does have a contact effect, it’s a detergent and detergent will disrupt a lipid membrane. It’s just that ethanol nukes stuff, whereas the amount of soap and strength of detergent you’d need to do that on skin would lead to skin damage after a while. Your hand soap you use is formulated differently to a strong ‘grease cutting’ detergent like washing up/dish liquid. You’ll notice if you do dishes by hand a lot you get very dry skin - that’s the grease and lipids and sebum that protects your skin getting stripped out. Really strong lab detergents exist (basically concentrated SDS) and they’re awful for your skin.
Warm water and soap is the best thing, but out and about we don’t have that and 70% sanitiser does just fine
The Saudi Royal Family does get a lot of their care outside the country; one of the floors at UPMC in Pittsburgh had the signs labeled in Arabic (along with the normal English) for their benefit.National health care system and access to private for those who can afford it.
A silly question no doubt, but I'd rather be sure: shops and drug stores around me are pretty much out of sanitizers and other alcohol-based cosmetic products, but I can still get rubbing alcohol (70%) with an addition of camphor oil. Would that work in a pinch?You dont need both. If you have access to soap and water use that. Out and about use sanitiser. I keep a little bottle in my handbag and use it after touching stuff like handrails, trolley handles, PIN pads etc. When I come in from being out its shoes off, then wash my hands.
If this thing makes people wash their hands more then it’ll have at least one positive effect (along with taking out anyone who thinks licking a shrine is a good idea, people who think bushmeat is great and the entire Iranian leadership...)
yeah I agree about it Iran. I know a fair few Iranians and they’re all good people. Their leadership however....
I had straight up moon shine that shit fucked me up.Yep, take a swig of everclear right outta the bottle. That'll brighten your day.
Dare to dreamWell now you're just making my inner nerd picture the virus morphing into one large kaiju abomination for Godzilla to fight on our behalf. That'd be pretty badass.
So far normal stay calm speech, but on the upside, he isn't COOFingMike Pence livestream inbound:
Didn't it come out that the source map for the SO2 spike around Wuhan was a computer model rather than live data?There are ways to jury-rig something like that very, very quickly. They’re trying to cover up the emissions from cremation so outsiders don’t notice, not because they give a fuck about pollution. They don’t. Just appearances.
Let me explain. Let me try to summarize that post I made earlier with all the spoopy sciency links.
This virus first causes a little flu.
Then, you get bilateral pneumonia in both lungs, with ground-glass opacities touching the lung edges.
Then, it sneakily infects your heart muscle with myocarditis, and your myoglobin from your heart breaks off into your bloodstream and gives you rhabdo, which gives you acute kidney failure requiring dialysis.
It also starts clumping up lumps of virus, bacteria, and dissolved tissues in your bloodstream, forming clots that can give you a heart attack or stroke.
Meanwhile, it’s infecting your blood vessels and giving you vasculitis, in your brain and other vital organs.
As if that wasn’t bad enough, this thing may have a symbiotic relationship with prevotella bacteria in your gut, combining with it like Voltron and then colonizing your gut bacteria.
Every time you defecate, you shit out lumps of virus/bacteria symbiote, which contaminate sewage and bodies of water.
When you die, your whole body becomes hazmat and must be incinerated immediately to prevent environmental contamination, otherwise, the virus may live alongside its bacterial colony as an anaerobic waterborne disease, or it may even attack and feast on other bacteria in water and in sewage, persisting in it for weeks, months, years, who the fuck knows?
Wuhan is fucked. The whole city will have to be torn down. It’s no longer habitable anymore.
This is a sci-fi pathogen like nothing we’ve ever seen. I’ve never even heard of a virus that acts as both a bacteriophage and something that attacks human tissues at the same time.
I would love to have a positive to say about thus but the Fed announced immediate interest rate cuts.View attachment 1170035
Hey look, the DOW spiked back up almost 1,300 points--making it the single largest one-day gain since 2009--now that people are starting to chill out about this, again.