Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[queue-anon]

You aren't really strengthening the "intelligent people's hoard" case here.
Baking powder biscuits and cornbread isn't that complicated to make nor do they require exotic ingredients. You can get them pretty easily right now. Empires have been built eating this stuff and there are all sorts of things you can do with it.

It's not a matter of it being complicated; it's a matter of being able to make edible food if I can't get other ingredients. Even the most basic bread requires yeast. Cornbread that's worth eating requires butter and eggs. In the most dire of circumstances, I can eat plain rice or plain oats made with water.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Even the most basic bread requires yeast.

Oy gevalt! But like anuddah shoah dis ignorance is!

Unleavened bread - Wikipedia

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Matzo - Wikipedia

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[Gravityqueen4life]

heard from my mother that one of the quarantine people in Poland tried to escape but was caught shortly after from one of her friends who has a daughter living there.

 

[AMHOLIO]

We've reached the point of the crisis where we should stop asking 'how will I survive?' and instead ask 'how will I profit off of this?'. Chances are we will make it through this, unless there's a sudden spike in Coronachans deadliness and we all suddenly stop washing our hands we'll see the other side of this pandemic. But now we need to start figuring out how to exploit a financial market heading straight for a recession/possible depression. Millionaires are made by exploiting crises and the victims of terrible tragedies.

Buy low and sell high and all that.

Please keep an eye out for my vibration and lavender infused essential oils specifically targeted at corona chan on etsy, I swear it works. My aunt set aflame two of them at once and has not contracted the virus.

 

[Jaimas]

Earlier today, I was at a supermarket and as I was arriving, I saw some guy leaving with a cart stacked higher than he was. According to a friend of mine who works at the store he just hit, he had bought fifty whole cases - some 2000 or so bottles - of hand santizer. Idly curious, I followed him to his SUV from a safe distance, only to see that he had what must have been hundreds of cases of the shit, as well as rubbing alcohol, disinfectant spray, and so on. The dude had to have strip-mined every shop in Commack for that much, and he clearly intended to scalp it all.

I know that as a virus, none of that shit will protect against the Wu Flu, but there's a special place in hell reserved for people who do this shit. Not just because it won't help anyone, not just because it ensures people who do actually need that shit will go without, but because ultimately, it denies basic fucking cleaning and medical supplies to untold numbers of people so some mongoloid can try to eke some money out of the desperate.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Don't got time for much so quick news first: despite priornprotestations to the contrary Sanchez has gone ahead and backstabbed Italy. I don't get it either. He's a apineless bastard so I'm guessing it was EU pressure but even ISCIII's got no idea why he's gone against everything they, and the rest of ministry's, have been saying.

Some think it's because of how many football matches against italians we had now. But, that seems stupid to me. Which sadly is no good reason to think the spanish president wouldn't be a moron and do it. To our Italian friends. I'm sorry. But good news, they're not banning Italian citizens only Italian flights. So worst case scenario if you need freee healthcare you can pull a chink/moroccan and come through france.

Pity, I was proud there for some days, seems we're getting back to our regular schedule. We'll see how retarded this gets now the politicians have done their first step in ignoring the scientists.

First - keeping up with this thread is like a second job. Even with ignoring the known idiots and skim reading.

Second, no real reason for this , but I was wondering about the doubling period for recorded cases, and whether it matches up across countries.
Looking at the UK figures on wikipedia ( for want of a better source) , the doubling period seems to be about 3 days. Which is really scary.
Has anyone got any better figures, for every country? And maybe put them all in a spreadsheet, run the numbers , see if there are any anomolies. The correlate the results for cultural habits, social kissing, use of cash, propensity to lick shrines, hue of president etc. See if you can crack this thing.
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Don't have the official numbers but that doesn't seem that worrying. The flu does most of its job in one or two weeks and this was similar in infective rate so, yeah, seems normal.

that happens after the fact. what would you incentivize now? "we gonna allocate X amounts of dosh for Y" is mostly for show, even a broke country can simply accrue more debt and have it sorted out later, there's always a way to cook the books if you're a government.
and the money aside, what would you do with it? it won't make more nurses or doctors appear or create more beds, the only thing you could really spend it on would be equipment and medicine, and a lot of those don't get produced in the EU, good luck trying to get another order in right now together with the rest of the world, when the producing countries stopped all exports and are imploding - and even if not, it would still need time to be produced and shipped. which is also the reason you won't get legions of doctors etc send over because countries need them themselves. and I highly doubt anyone wants the german army off all people to help with quarantine efforts.



not really, the were 2 "big" spreads in germany. remember way back the car supplier in bavaria that was infected by a chinese exec in a meeting? that was contained pretty easily since it was before the big wave - which brings something else to mind, maybe another krautkiwi wants to look into it because it was 3-4 weeks ago with different age groups infected, which could provide some idea how things will turn out. I didn't really follow it, but none of them has died (or they never announced it or credited it to something else, but I doubt that).
the second outbreak they're dealing with now showed up after italy and spread from there like you'd expect. coming back from vacation, just having the sniffles or no symptoms at all and go about their daily lives, which then infects someone else that travels somewhere else asf. the cases they can't trace back are probably from people they came in contact with that never had any severe issues and only now got tested or most likely recovered since.

while money sounds like a vector, I haven't heard of any studies that made a big deal about it (else they would bring it up constantly trying to get everyone adopt digital currency). there are probably tests how viable bills are for holding a virus, but then you'd still need to study how money gets treated and spreads. most of it will be used locally and majority of people just carries it around in their wallet, so washing your hands afterwards already reduces it's effectiveness (which is something you should do anyway).



wait, what? people still got to shpping malls (even before corona)?

And like most eurofags you miss the forest for the trees because your government tells you to focus on the barch so you don't realize the massive dumpster fire behind it.

To begin with, we got temporary hospitals being set up in africa in fucking days all the time so don't tell me we couldn't pull that shit for one of our own. But most importantly this isn't about healthcare it's about trying to keep the country from collapsing under its own weight now they have been paralized. Subsidized leaves, telecommuting grants, grants to specific areas that patch the biggest holes in the system. Italy lived off of tourism, they NEED help and europe has promised to help its colonies in case of a collapse like this one. But we all know they won't keep their word, they were never going to. And apparently now not even us will keep ours. Fucking asshole politicians gonna cause more trouble than the virus. If I were you I'd be pissed at my idiots in charge to. I sure as shit don't enjoy being made a liar against my will.

 

[Captain Ahab]

It's not a matter of it being complicated; it's a matter of being able to make edible food if I can't get other ingredients. Even the most basic bread requires yeast. Cornbread that's worth eating requires butter and eggs. In the most dire of circumstances, I can eat plain rice or plain oats made with water.

Bread that’s worth eating is made with wild yeasts from a sourdough starter. Just let 100% hydration rye dough sit at room temperature for about one to two weeks, swapping half the dough for new dough every day. Voilà, you have yeast. Once the colony is strong and the dough sour to your liking, freeze a bit of the starter so you don’t have to restart from zero after you kill your main starter.

Prople have been baking bread for thousands of years before commercial yeasts became a thing. They are a very recent invention.

 

[Lurker69]

Didn't see this in the thread yet, Merkel is saying that 60-70 percent of Germany will be infected:

http://archive.is/jLP6C

 

[Yeeted Teet]

The EU is suspending its use it or lose it rule for airline flight slots. Airlines have to use 80% of their time slots or have their allocation cut the following year, which is why there have been so many all but empty flights. The change will result in a lot more cancellations.

European Commission plans moratorium on 'use it or lose it' slot rule

European regulators are set to release airlines from slot-use obligations to ease pressure on carriers as they cut capacity to cope with coronavirus outbreak effects. The European Commission says it will put forward "targeted legislation" which will "temporarily alleviate" airlines from the need...

www.flightglobal.com

No new containment measures have been announced here for the moment but the health minister said they will be necessary and mentioned closing schools. There had been a rumour going around that schools would be closed from Friday until after Easter, which the Department of Education denied, but the government also denied Paddy's day would be cancelled two days before they called it off so I'm expecting schools to be shut some time next week at the latest. A bunch of secondary schools and one college have already closed voluntarily due to suspected or confirmed cases.

I have a source in a major supermarket chain here, lots of people stocking up on the things you'd expect but no shortages so far. The nice, name brand toilet paper keeps selling out but it's still being restocked and people aren't desperate enough to start buying the cheap stuff. They're getting full deliveries every day and the warehouses don't seem to have been hit by supply chain issues yet. They haven't considered putting limits on how much one person can buy either, I've heard reports of some shops doing that.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

So the UK's Parliamentary Under Secretary for the Ministry of Health and Social Services, Nadine Dorries, has caught Coronavirus.

Several MPs are to be tested, or are self isolating and people are now combing through her diary of events to try and trace people, either whoever infected her or who were exposed to her and may be infected herself.

This includes Matt Hancock, the Minister for Health and Social Services and the Prime Minister. Both may be tested to see if they have coronavirus.

It also means they will urgently review whether to curtail parliament.

I'll post the usual UK figures update later today.

 

[AtomicAgeBoy]

Finland update. At least 17 new infections

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Earlier today, I was at a supermarket and as I was arriving, I saw some guy leaving with a cart stacked higher than he was. According to a friend of mine who works at the store he just hit, he had bought fifty whole cases - some 2000 or so bottles - of hand santizer. Idly curious, I followed him to his SUV from a safe distance, only to see that he had what must have been hundreds of cases of the shit, as well as rubbing alcohol, disinfectant spray, and so on. The dude had to have strip-mined every shop in Commack for that much, and he clearly intended to scalp it all.

I know that as a virus, none of that shit will protect against the Wu Flu, but there's a special place in hell reserved for people who do this shit. Not just because it won't help anyone, not just because it ensures people who do actually need that shit will go without, but because ultimately, it denies basic fucking cleaning and medical supplies to untold numbers of people so some mongoloid can try to eke some money out of the desperate.

And then there's this fine specimen of Connecticut woman who decided the best use of hand sanitzer was use it as a lethal weapon.

Woman allegedly turns bottle of hand sanitizer into Molotov cocktail, sparks fatal blaze

A Connecticut woman sparked a fatal apartment fire by igniting a bottle of hand sanitizer and chucking it at her girlfriend, a report said. The suspect, 28-year-old Destiny Waite, set the bottle on…

nypost.com

 

[AsbestosFlaygon]

And then there's this fine specimen of Connecticut woman who decided the best use of hand sanitzer was use it as a lethal weapon.

Woman allegedly turns bottle of hand sanitizer into Molotov cocktail, sparks fatal blaze

A Connecticut woman sparked a fatal apartment fire by igniting a bottle of hand sanitizer and chucking it at her girlfriend, a report said. The suspect, 28-year-old Destiny Waite, set the bottle on…

nypost.com

Sell the damn soap and use the money to buy some fucking gas you moronic bitch, I hear it's really cheap due to some creepy dude in Russia called Putin and one of his Saudi friends or some shit.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Bread that’s worth eating is made with wild yeasts from a sourdough starter. Just let 100% hydration rye dough sit at room temperature for about one to two weeks, swapping half the dough for new dough every day. Voilà, you have yeast. Once the colony is strong and the dough sour to your liking, freeze a bit of the starter so you don’t have to restart from zero after you kill your main starter.

Prople have been baking bread for thousands of years before commercial yeasts became a thing. They are a very recent invention.

You guys DO know that there's ready made bread, biscuit, pancake and muffin mixes? With some of them, all you have to do is add water. Yes, they're more expensive than scratch and yes, scratch tastes better when a talented cook is making it. But some of y'all are thinking you're gonna buy a gunnysack of flour, cane sugar, and brewer's yeast, and be some kind of James Townsend, Frontier Gourmet. When in reality, you're probably just going to make a mess in your kitchen and waste precious resources cleaning it up. There's nothing wrong with using a commercial mix (especially as a base to add your own spices and ingredients to.) A crisis is not a good time to discover whether you're a decent cook or not, especially if you've never really cooked from scratch before.

 

[Shitpiss Babylord]

Says here death rate from pneumonia and influenza is 6.9%, just below the epidemic threshold of 7.3%. Plenty more info here

In the interests of keeping the information in this thread accurate, those numbers are misleading. The fatality rate of influenza is around 0.1%, that 6.9% number is likely reached by bundling it with pneumonia, which is a broad category of illnesses with various causes, such as bacterial (most common) viral (with influenza being just one of many viruses that cause it, with coronavirus being another contributor and rhinovirus as the leading viral cause) fungal, parasitic and others.

The advantage flu has over covid-19 is scale rather than mortality rate, with an estimated yearly global infection of around 1 billion people.
It’s been around centuries, if not millennia after all, it’s already everywhere.

 

[A Logging Company]

We've reached the point of the crisis where we should stop asking 'how will I survive?' and instead ask 'how will I profit off of this?'. Chances are we will make it through this, unless there's a sudden spike in Coronachans deadliness and we all suddenly stop washing our hands we'll see the other side of this pandemic. But now we need to start figuring out how to exploit a financial market heading straight for a recession/possible depression. Millionaires are made by exploiting crises and the victims of terrible tragedies.

Buy low and sell high and all that.

Moonshining hand sanitizer seems to be the thing.

 

[TheRedChair]

Bread that’s worth eating is made with wild yeasts from a sourdough starter. Just let 100% hydration rye dough sit at room temperature for about one to two weeks, swapping half the dough for new dough every day. Voilà, you have yeast. Once the colony is strong and the dough sour to your liking, freeze a bit of the starter so you don’t have to restart from zero after you kill your main starter.

Prople have been baking bread for thousands of years before commercial yeasts became a thing. They are a very recent invention.

Oh yea You can technically keep a yeast starter for a long time. I've heard one bakery using the same yeast culture from a starter that originated over 100 years ago.

The Art of Baking with Natural Yeast: How to feed your starter

Starter feeding tutorial for beginners

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How to make Wild Yeast Bread! {to rise bread naturally}

Learn how to make REAL sourdough bread that is light and fluffy! Get your printable recipe here: http://www.weedemandreap.com/recipe-homemade-bread/ ↓↓↓↓↓↓ C...

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This one here is done by a prepper an exceptional individual who I don't really think is one as he is trying to make money by selling merch.

But his style of doing his starter yeast is similar to my own so it goes up in here.

Cultivate Your Own Homemade Wild Yeast EASY [Prepper Food] [2018]

Homemade Yeast made easy. Cultivate your own wild yeast. Prepper Bread. Off Grid bread and Prepper Food. After SHTF preppers will have stockpiled wheat or fl...

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When I get into the mood I do make home made bread out of different ingredients so I do a starter and a week or so later I start making bread. A lot of bread for a week or so. Break making by hand can be time consuming but it is a useful skill to have. Bread making with a bread machine is easy.

 

[Overly Serious]

For a world running on UberEats, rice and dry pasta are still manageable. Water, heat, mix in one or two more ingredients.
Meal requires you to know what to do a lot more, and for many people now is not the time to start a magical cooking adventure.

Okay, PSA if we're going to start doing survival eating tips. Mix grains and pulses. Protein from vegetable sources falls into two broad categories. Eating only grains or eating only pulses gives you half the profile you need. That's why you see a lot of blends of this in traditional cooking - beans on toast, lentils with rice, etc. So if someone is doing the stock up on rice thing, do your body a favour and stock up on rice and lentils. If you're making bread, get some beans in as well.

 

[DewsLit]

Closing borders won't stop coronavirus - German health minister

Sealing Germany's borders to prevent the spread of the coronavirus would no...

www.reuters.com

Archive

Sealing Germany’s borders to prevent the spread of the coronavirus would not work, Health Minister Jens Spahn said on Wednesday, rejecting calls to follow neighbor Austria in denying entry to visitors from Italy.

Interviewed on Deutschlandfunk radio, Spahn said the focus of Germany’s current approach to the epidemic was to slow the virus’s spread to minimize the peak burden on the country’s health system.

“The virus is in Germany, it is in Europe. That’s the thought we have to get used to,” he said. “It will still spread even if you close all the borders. Sooner or later you have to let people in or out and then it starts spreading again.”

Experts estimate the virus’s mortality rate in an advanced healthcare system like Germany’s at between 0.1% and 0.7%, he said. Though Germany has the most intensive care beds per capita in Europe, its healthcare system could quickly be overwhelmed if the virus spread too quickly.

To avoid that, large events like football matches must be called off, he said. Individuals should be mindful of the disease’s spread in their behavior, whether by doing without concerts or cinema trips, or in greeting parents or grandparents who are more vulnerable because of their age.

He described as “astonishing” the decision not to call off a football match between Union Berlin and Bayern Munich scheduled to take place in Berlin on Saturday.

 

[Chamaelirium]

A giant sack of rice, some soy sauce, salt and pepper, and several dozen eggs can be had for dirt cheap and you can make delicious fried rice for a long time. Frozen veggies for added flavor and vitamins can be added too.

It's even appropriate for the wuflu theme!