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I don't know what would be better for the Wu Flu, but if you wanna window shop and you happen to live in Red Neck Land USA, you can go to Gun Shows or military surplus stores. Normally they're cheap.
Prepping - It's not always about the immediate collapse of society
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I'm afraid I live in a scandinavian country (not Swedistan), so there isn't any gun shows around here. I'd love to go somewhere in person to ask these questions, but we don't have much of a utility/gun culture that the states do. That being said, I may likely have to order it online, which is why I'm trying to find some information before ordering something I have no idea if it's good.
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So here's one key thing to be aware of when, dealing with Respirators, Gas Masks, or using any sort of system to protect yourself, in a contaminated environment. If you're exposed how do you remove and decontaminate that equipment after.
If you're wearing a disposable mask, then when you come to unmask, you need to assume you've been exposed, you need to remove and dispose of the mask without contaminating yourself or your surrounding environment.
In a military setting, when you train to operate in say an environment that's been exposed to say a nerve agent. It can take up to 6 soldier sto remove 1 soldiers CBRN suit, Mask etc while assisting him with decontamination,
Essentially a mask isn't going to help you, unless you've got a load of them, and you've got the infrastructure and ancillary items to support it's use.
If you're wearing a disposable mask, then when you come to unmask, you need to assume you've been exposed, you need to remove and dispose of the mask without contaminating yourself or your surrounding environment.
In a military setting, when you train to operate in say an environment that's been exposed to say a nerve agent. It can take up to 6 soldier sto remove 1 soldiers CBRN suit, Mask etc while assisting him with decontamination,
Essentially a mask isn't going to help you, unless you've got a load of them, and you've got the infrastructure and ancillary items to support it's use.
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That's a good point, I didn't think about that. I've heard the virus can survive on surfaces for several weeks, so I'd have to disinfect somehow.
I'm guessing some of those simple disinfectant sprays might do the trick, and not being retarded about touching my face, etc.
Even considering the above, is it still not any use to have a mask then?
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Unless you use it correctly, you're better off without it.
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He wouldn’t be much of a secret if you could.
These homemade respirators work pretty well:
Yeah, masks are to prevent you from giving it to other people if you’ve already been infected.
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Gamer girl panties make good respirators but I'm not sure they'd work for your intended purposes.
JULAY
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3M 6000 series respirators with P100 filters are the best protection. Good luck finding one at this point though.
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US military uses the M50 gas mask, but like @Trig.Point said, no mask will prevent you getting the Wu flu. You're better off being cognizant of never putting your unwashed hands into your mouth or eyes than wasting money on a mask. All these masks etc are better at preventing someone that has the flu from spreading it than preventing a person getting it.
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Get yourself one of these, they won't do much in protecting you from the virus (apart from people staying away from you) but you'll look cool.
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Since the Wu Flu can allegedly infect people through the eyes, you'll need something that covers your whole face. I also suspect even the best gas masks can't filter particles as small as a virus, you'd be better off with a closed-cycle breathing mask.
And also a full hazmat suit so you don't look silly.
And a decontamination chamber to clean your hazmat suit when you enter your home.
TL;DR use high alcohol disinfectant, wash your hands regularly and thoroughly with warm water and soap, don't touch your face, nose, mouth, etc.
As a last note, prepare to pay an arm and a leg for proper disinfectant, toss in a kidney for a proper mask. Even those disposable construcion paper masks went through a roughly 2000% price hike where I live, and those aren't worth shit against viruses.
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Thanks for this thorough reply, it's much appreciated.
I'm starting to see it isn't really viable to get a gas mask. Among the things you mentioned, a decontamination chamber isn't really possible for me. I guess I have to cancel my travel plans. Unfortunate, really.
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You want something.with effective and easy to find filters. Just get a 3M full face mask (~$120) and P100 organic vapor filters. It will protect you from virtually any contaminant on the planet. The filters are rated to 40 hours of use in low particulate environments.
Edit: don't listen to the guy you replied to. P100 organic vapor filters are effective against the virus. It doesn't have to filter the virus it has to filter what the virus lives on, which is the tiny particles you sneeze and cough out, which are organic vapors. Probably $180 for a good full face mask and a set of 4 P100s.
Edit: don't listen to the guy you replied to. P100 organic vapor filters are effective against the virus. It doesn't have to filter the virus it has to filter what the virus lives on, which is the tiny particles you sneeze and cough out, which are organic vapors. Probably $180 for a good full face mask and a set of 4 P100s.
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I was half joking. Bottom line is, you can't get 100% protection within a reasonably short timeframe, for a reasonable price.
Postponing or outright canceling any travel plans would be the best, sadly.
Aside from that, excersising due diligence. Like I said, wash your hands, don't touch your face, etc.
If you really want a mask, here's the result of a quick Amazon search:
3M Personal Protective Equipment Respirator Kit, Full Face 6800, Reusable, Medium, Plus 4 Particulate Filters 2097, P100 for Mold Remediation, Dust, Lead, Asbestos: Papr Safety Respirators: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
3M Personal Protective Equipment Respirator Kit, Full Face 6800, Reusable, Medium, Plus 4 Particulate Filters 2097, P100 for Mold Remediation, Dust, Lead, Asbestos: Papr Safety Respirators: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
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3M Safety 142-6800 Safety Reusable Full Face Mask Respirator, Grey, Medium: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
3M Safety 142-6800 Safety Reusable Full Face Mask Respirator, Grey, Medium: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
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Filters:
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Particulate-Filter-Organic-Filters/dp/B079X5C3QP/ (2 pairs)
https://www.amazon.com/3M-2091-Particulate-Filter-Pairs/dp/B00OUYCR1W/ (2 pairs)
https://www.amazon.com/3M-Particulate-2097-Respiratory-Protection/dp/B007K0RV6Y/ (50 pairs)
Some of them allegedly are fakes. Read the reviews, if available.
I wish you the best of luck.
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I'll note down the specifics you mentioned and have a look around.
Thank you very much.
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Alright, I get what you mean. I am not looking for anything big, but what you linked seems reasonable. Sadly, two of the loose filters don't seem to ship to my location, one has terrible reviews, and the fourth doesn't have stock for another week. Worrying times.
I appreciate all your advice and links, nonetheless.
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Canceling your plans is definitely the best idea. I live in South America, and as soon as the first case hit here, which was in Brazil on Feb 26th, I went out and got a 3M 6000 series and two extra filter cartridges. I had planned on just getting a box of about 25 or so disposable N95s, but they were long gone. I actually had to wait a bit because the store employees were restocking the section and had it cordoned off. I waited there for about 20 minutes, grabbed what I needed and left. As I was walking away, about ten people were sprinting, I shit you not, sprinting over to that section.
I went back to the store I bought the respirator at the next day to get some more supplies, and all of the respirators were gone. The store had a sign up that said, "We will not be receiving any mores respirators or dust masks. We apologize for the inconvenience."
As far as decon, all you really need is some 0.5% bleach solution accessible outside of your house. Spray the mask and straps, wipe everything down thoroughly, and remove the filter elements before you go back inside. Most likely, they'll have viral particles trapped inside of them. Make sure to wear disposible gloves and goggles as well, toss the gloves, and sanitize the goggles the same way.
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Kind of a dead thread, but I didn't think it would be appreciated in the Mega Max Super Dooper Corona Virus thread so whatever.
I have watched this homesteader for a few years and she is one hard working woman.
She put up this video today, poking fun at the Karens. I thought it was kinda cute.
I have watched this homesteader for a few years and she is one hard working woman.
She put up this video today, poking fun at the Karens. I thought it was kinda cute.
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I keep plenty of candles around for light, as for food I shop in bulk because I'm a cheapskate so my rice and flour buckets will last months. Of course my neighbors would never guess my home contains enough ammunition to wage a small war, what they don't know won't hurt them.