Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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yeah, 700-1000 is the backlog volume last i checked. already got word from contacts that some administrative offices for various companies are starting to prepare to work from home for an extended period of time to minimize contagion spread. Lucky office workers. All the laborers, and technicians are still gonna have to come in to work.

One of my clients is sending out dozens of laptops, and has shut down their New York City offices due to being in the same building as one of the confirmed cases. They are stating they do not intend for these workers to switch back to desktops.

Another client has stated all nonessential travel is banned as well as any and all in person meetings. EVERYTHING is to be done over Slack, Zoom, or Skype. This will be re-evaluated in JULY.

Another client, a callcenter, put in an order for 700 wireless cards, in case they have to have their cubical monkeys work from home. On the backend, without telling the drones, we're planning on sending them all working from home starting next week for at least the next 3 months, and are investigating the possibility of outsourcing additional seats in case we can't keep enough people healthy to keep the calls flowing.
 
Friend works as a security guard at a supermarket. Says in the last 2 days people have started to seriously bug out. He went from making maybe 1-2 stops a week to stopping people from stealing almost 2-3 times a day. Not even sure what they're stealing, all the hordeables have been sold out for days.
Quick update. That friend started showing symptoms. I was bringing him in to get his prescription refilled and he started sweating bullets and dry coughing. We're not even at an ER or urgent care but when he went to the front desk the second he told them his symptoms they triaged him and slapped a surgical mask on. I'm sitting next to him while he waits in a hospital bed for the doctor to come administer a test. Will keep you guys updated. I think this shit is bout to pop off y'all.
 
Not seeing any panic buying by me, just bought 2x 36 pack of bog roll, not even to stock up, just replacing my usual shop for my aunt, who is currently housebound, so I normally do it for her... Only thing that was really low or sold out was fresh veg funnily enough, and there was no tinned tuna either which has pissed my cat off.

edit: This Sunday is a bit different... Not a lot of stuff on the shelves. I was just going to do a bit of shopping for my aunt and only milks left were a few 1 pint skimmed milks... Had to buy 3 because that was all they let you buy. Got some tuna for the cat though, so all is good, and I don't drink m.ilk myself often, and I don't mind black coffee... She is an insane tea addict though.
 
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Quick update. That friend started showing symptoms. I was bringing him in to get his prescription refilled and he started sweating bullets and dry coughing. We're not even at an ER or urgent care but when he went to the front desk the second he told them his symptoms they triaged him and slapped a surgical mask on. I'm sitting next to him while he waits in a hospital bed for the doctor to come administer a test. Will keep you guys updated. I think this shit is bout to pop off y'all.
Wash your hands. Immediately.
 
One of my clients is sending out dozens of laptops, and has shut down their New York City offices due to being in the same building as one of the confirmed cases. They are stating they do not intend for these workers to switch back to desktops.

Another client has stated all nonessential travel is banned as well as any and all in person meetings. EVERYTHING is to be done over Slack, Zoom, or Skype. This will be re-evaluated in JULY.

Another client, a callcenter, put in an order for 700 wireless cards, in case they have to have their cubical monkeys work from home. On the backend, without telling the drones, we're planning on sending them all working from home starting next week for at least the next 3 months, and are investigating the possibility of outsourcing additional seats in case we can't keep enough people healthy to keep the calls flowing.

Gurantee if i go stop buy the local general store on the way home, it's gonna be empty of toilet paper, cleaning supplies & hand sanitizer, or it's going to be marked up to high hell
 
How progressive of you to allow that.

On a serious note hope you and your your kid are fine.

This is the deal, FYI to others.

People who are in a care-giving role are stuck in the middle. It is a "judgment call" but not wanting to seem like a scaremonging drama queen, you take your kid or your mom or your dog "in" because that is what you are supposed to do. Normal people don't become shut-ins when there are less than 100 confirmed cases among millions.

Also, you typically assume (ass-u-me) that people with barking coughs, and especially with kids who have an obvious cough, (2 year olds run around, a lot) would do what they are asked to do, and stay home and not spread infectious disease.

The other thing, is that appointments usually charge when you cancel. Or you only get so many cancellations or they drop your case. So if you are "stuck" it is tempting to say "well it is still early, wait until more cases come about,and they will change their cancellation policy."

Basically word on the street has it that a school district or non-essential service needs to have a live, active and confirmed case, in order to quarantine.

So who is going to play infantry? I suppose it has to be somebody.

The other thing... my impulse is to tell these people to get the fuck outta here with their plague-ridden kid. But if the reception has made the choice of allowing these people to sit in the waiting room, I don't want to be branded as a "problem parent" starting an altercation, because that can lead to a termination of services for my kid.

My only motivation for sharing this, is to help you guys not make the same dumb choice I did.

These things happen so fast. What I SHOULD HAVE DONE is the moment I saw that coughing kid, I should not have assumed that these people would do the "right" thing. I handed them the flyer that the facility gave me, as a hint, to avoid confrontation. The moment the staff went up to the mother, questioning her about her sick kid, and they just sat down like a couple of useless potatoes ... I should have gotten up and went into a side room and self-quarantine.

Moral of the story:

Don't assume that the facility is going to make the "right" choice, ever. They also want to avoid confrontation, and not make waves with the management.

Don't assume people will do the "right" thing. The child's mother was wearing a face mask, after all, but had no qualms whatsoever about exposing a pregnant woman, a dozen special-needs kids and an occupational therapist to her ambulating Petri dish.

End of the story: I discreetly made my concern known, and in no uncertain terms. In the end they sent the people home, they sprayed Lysol air cleaner all over the place where they were sitting, and wiped down the table and chairs. They took each other's temperatures.

Kid had a dry, barking cough, like no other.
 
Wash your hands. Immediately.
It's far too late, if he has it I have it. We're roommates and every time he gets something I get it too without fail. I'm keeping calm, and am gonna get myself tested ASAP too. If I have it I've already made preparations for self quarantine and time off at work. I don't intend on letting anybody else catch this if I can prevent it. It sucks especially because I had a surprise party I was supposed to attend today. :(
 
Stuff can survive in the air for a while according to a new study.
Yes, that's usually the case and has been known for some time. That doesn't mean you inhaled any of it. But given how often a person touches their face, nose, mouth, eyes, etc in a given day, if anything is on your hands chances are it's going there to.

Wash your fucking hands.
 
Denmark: *closes schools and universities*
Norway: *closes schools and universities*
Sweden: uuuuh schools get to decide that for themselves but we can't close all schools and universities nation-wide because what if parents with societally important jobs such as nurses have to stay at home and take care of their children? (The bloody Danes and Norwegians are making sure that those children get specially taken care of so that's not an obstacle) http://archive.li/DQVtK
Government: No closures of schools

After a marathon meeting with the school's players during Thursday afternoon and evening, Anna Ekström called for a press conference on Thursday evening to give information on how the Swedish schools should act in the corona pandemic. Earlier on Thursday, Norway announced that all schools in the country would be closed, and on Wednesday the Danish government gave the same message.

But the message from the Minister of Education is that Sweden will not follow suit. Instead, the government on Friday will make decisions that create greater opportunities for the school's actors to adapt their operations to deal with the effects of the corona virus.

- The Ministry of Education has carefully reviewed and ensured that there are good arguments for not closing schools today, says Anna Ekström (S).

She explains that Sweden chooses a different path from neighboring countries with the conditions differing.

- Conditions do not only differ between countries, but also regionally. My main argument against a closure is that if mothers and fathers in important social functions should stay at home and take care of children instead of going to work. It would reduce the possibility of limiting the spread of infection and care for those who get sick, says Anna Ekström.

She also points out that those who often become babysitters are grandparents and that the government wants to prevent more elderly people from being infected.

Instead, the decision that the government will make during Friday is instead to create greater freedom for individual principals to make the decisions necessary for the education to be implemented, says Anna Ekström.

- We create a greater space for the principals to reorganize their business if corona affects the business, for example by the absence of a large proportion of staff, she says.

This can be about extending semesters, conducting teaching on weekends or during the summer holidays or conducting distance education, according to Ekström. Students can also be taught at a school other than the normal one.

At the same time, the government is also opening the decision, which is to be taken on Friday, for individual schools to be closed when required.

- This decision makes it possible to take action if an individual school needs to be closed, if schools in a region need to be closed, or if schools across the country need to be closed, says Anna Ekström.

However, the regulation to be decided on Friday will make it possible to quickly close all the country's schools if required, according to Ekström.

- If it were required, we will not hesitate to act. And then we also have the legislation in place, ”she says.
It's quite hilarious how the government claims that another reason why schools shouldn't be closed down temporarily is that grand-parents are often made to baby sit and that the government wants to prevent more elderly people from being infected (=they might get it from their grandchildren)... when just around one-two weeks ago, the reason the Public Health agency gave as to why children who had been on vacation in Italy should keep going to school was that "children don't get or spread corona"
 
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And over 50,000 homeless people in LA county with little to no desire to get healthcare. I get that life situations are different and all, but you live in a desert with large numbers of literally crazy people and ultra violent gangs.
Do have ANY family living in a rural area?

Panic buying supplies can lead to riots very fucking quickly in major cities.

No. You are right about panic buying. But LA happens to be one of the epicenter of supplies from the Pacific. If you drive between the Port of LA in Long Beach, and DTLA you hit multiple warehouses full of just about everything, then distribution fans outwards.

I haven't seen a lot of ass-wipe hoarding around here.

If there is something that could start a riot, it might be people being shut in with their dysfunctional relatives. 🤣

Actually I would be afraid of riots beginning in oversaturated medical facilities. Imagine how you would feel, after a 6 hour wait in the ER with your sick spouse, when you are turned away because they have no more room or resources to treat him. And there are like 10 people ahead of you waiting and another 10 behind ...
 
Went to discount grocery store this morning, and Costco around noon Pacific.

Discount grocery store normal, saw a couple people buying water, but still a good amount available. Plenty of ass-wipe.

Costco was rather busy, but had no problem finding a parking spot, getting everything I wanted (except a cherry pie), and getting out in less than 30 minutes. Saw people buying water and asswipe, among other things, but didn't see any purchases in panic amounts. Shelves overall a little depleted, but not bad. Didn't check out the water and asswipe. Don't buy them at Costco, anyway. Had a whole pallet of gloves on the sales floor, but it looked like nobody had purchased any. Did see some people buying three-packs Clorox bleach.

See MLB has cancelled the remaining spring training games and pushed start of season back two weeks. Oh, well. Don't care about the NBA or NHL, just MLB. Guess Pornhub will be a little busier.

Looking at the latest WuFlu scoreboard, worldwide up to 127,863 cases. Don't believe China's numbers at all. Subtract China's claimed nearly 81,000 cases and we get 46, 863. Of that number, 30,606 come from just three countries (Italy, Iran, South Korea). Believe Iran's numbers are higher than reported. That leaves 16, 247 for the rest of the world, six billion of us.

Watched President Trump's speech yesterday on YouTube. Have listened to a number of his speeches. The President normally comes across as confident, if not brash. But the tone of last evening's speech was businesslike and somewhat subdued. President Trump also looked tired, not his usual self, if you will.

He obviously knows something, probably a great deal, more than we do about this virus, but for some reason isn't sharing it. One reason may be to protect sources of intelligence. Another reason may well be to stave off panic.

But what I hear and what I am seeing these days don't match. Have never seen such a large number of disease-related closures, postponements, etc, in seven decades of life. These closures and postponements remind me of what must have happened during the Spanish Flu. Don't remember such a scale of closures/postponements, etc. during the swine flu. Not even sure there were this many closures/postponements during polio epidemics. And you don't see such closures/postponements in regard to the "regular" flu.

We are told the average person's chance of catching the virus is low, and most who come down with the virus recover. Yet, in my opinion the actions taken seem to fit a very virulent virus with a very high mortality rate. So far in the USA there have been just forty deaths, thirty of them in one state.

Something much more is going on here, something we aren't being told, in my opinion. Because right now the WuFlu numbers I see don't approach the hospitalizations/fatalities for the "regular" flu.

Believe the American people can handle the truth. Always have in the past. Understand the natural tendency of those in office, of any party, is to play down what's happening. Then we get a nasty surprise when we learn the actual magnitude of the problem.

So pay attention to what's being said, but pay more attention to what isn't being said.
 
Coronavirus Conference Gets Canceled Because of Coronavirus

By David Welch

March 10, 2020, 5:11 PM EDT

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Photographer: Victor J. Blue/Bloomberg

So much for keeping business rolling during the coronavirus pandemic.

The Council on Foreign Relations has canceled a roundtable called “Doing Business Under Coronavirus” scheduled for Friday in New York due to the spread of the infection itself. CFR has also canceled other in-person conferences that were scheduled from March 11 to April 3, including roundtables in New York and Washington and national events around the U.S.

The CFR’s confabs are joining a long list of canceled or postponed gatherings, including the annual New York auto show. The Greater New York Automobile Dealers Association said Tuesday that the car show will be rescheduled to late August.

Events in metro New York are coming under close scrutiny due to an increase in cases in the city and, in particular, an outbreak in the suburb of New Rochelle. The National Guard will be sent to the town to help close public gathering spaces in an effort to slow the spread of the outbreak, Governor Andrew Cuomo said at a press conference.

Across the U.S., the spread of the novel virus has so far scuttled more than 50 major corporate events with an estimated attendance of almost 1 million people, according to data collected by Bloomberg News.
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Yeah, the PLRB (that got canceled) was planning a seminar on coronavirus and any upcoming new legalese stuff. Pretty ironic.
 
But what I hear and what I am seeing these days don't match. Have never seen such a large number of disease-related closures, postponements, etc, in seven decades of life. These closures and postponements remind me of what must have happened during the Spanish Flu. Don't remember such a scale of closures/postponements, etc. during the swine flu. Not even sure there were this many closures/postponements during polio epidemics. And you don't see such closures/postponements in regard to the "regular" flu.
We didn't but we probably should have. Information is shared rapidly in this day and age and all but the dumbest citizens know about germ theory. That may account for some of the closures. Karens calling and complaining (albeit with some merit).

It's all good though. This is the kind of response that will stop or at least mitigate a swine flu like scenario.
 
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