Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[DidYouJustSayThat]

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Don’t watch TV coverage of Covid-19!
— by Richard Stallman
Don't watch TV coverage of Covid-19! Watching repetitive coverage of something frightening can interfere with clear thinking, even traumatize people.
TV news coverage of a crisis struggles to fill 24 hours a day with "information", notwithstanding the fact that the actual flow of new information about the crisis is nowhere near sufficient to fill that time. What do they do? They repeat. They present tangential and minor details. They make the same points in different ways. They belabor the obvious. They repeat.
If your goal is to be informed, you don't need to dwell on the crisis for hours every day. Not even one hour a day. Getting your news in this inefficient matter will waste a lot of time — and worse.
In addition, it will make you more and more anxious. Someone I knew in 2001, who lived in California. spent all day on Sep 11 and following days watching the TV coverage. Afterward perse was afraid to go outside, watching for terrorist airplanes. TV made it possible for per to be traumatized by events 3000 miles away.
That was an unusually strong case. Most people did not get so traumatized as that. That does not imply it did not affect them. I suspect that the TV coverage may have shifted millions of people's perceptions, so that they overestimated the danger of terrorism while downplaying the danger of laws that take away freedom. This would have smoothed the path for careless passage of the dangerous USA PAT RIOT Act and its massive surveillance.
In any a good, general textual news site, you can read the things you really want to know about Covid-19 in 10 or 20 minutes a day. Then you won't fall behind on your work, and you won't be brainwashed into panic.
Keep calm and carry on!

Copyright © 2020 Richard Stallman Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved.

 

[MadStan]

And now, an important message from the WuFlu sponsors.

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

Don’t forget, this is very literally Trump’s personal worst nightmare. He’s big time Germphobic. In some ways that works to our advantage. For all the Monday morning quarterbacking about when and which travel restrictions should have been put in place, the truth is Trump did so much faster Than any of our more traditional DC swamp dwellers would have. Does anybody remember when we weren’t allowed to put travel restrictions in place for West Africa during the last big Ebola outbreak because it would be “racist”? Trump’s paranoia about disease had him cut off Chinese travel pretty immediately. Something I don’t think a more traditional US politician would have even viewed as an option due to the perceived minefield of blowback.

Granted even with his paranoia he still ends up having photo ops with Corona-Chan.

Trump could have literally developed the cure for the virus in his free time by himself and the news media would crucify him for not coming out with it soon enough. The poor fuck can't win.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

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Richard Stallman's personal site.
https://stallman.org
For current political commentary, see the daily political notes.
RMS' Bio | The GNU Project
Don’t watch TV coverage of Covid-19!
— by Richard Stallman
Don't watch TV coverage of Covid-19! Watching repetitive coverage of something frightening can interfere with clear thinking, even traumatize people.
TV news coverage of a crisis struggles to fill 24 hours a day with "information", notwithstanding the fact that the actual flow of new information about the crisis is nowhere near sufficient to fill that time. What do they do? They repeat. They present tangential and minor details. They make the same points in different ways. They belabor the obvious. They repeat.
If your goal is to be informed, you don't need to dwell on the crisis for hours every day. Not even one hour a day. Getting your news in this inefficient matter will waste a lot of time — and worse.
In addition, it will make you more and more anxious. Someone I knew in 2001, who lived in California. spent all day on Sep 11 and following days watching the TV coverage. Afterward perse was afraid to go outside, watching for terrorist airplanes. TV made it possible for per to be traumatized by events 3000 miles away.
That was an unusually strong case. Most people did not get so traumatized as that. That does not imply it did not affect them. I suspect that the TV coverage may have shifted millions of people's perceptions, so that they overestimated the danger of terrorism while downplaying the danger of laws that take away freedom. This would have smoothed the path for careless passage of the dangerous USA PAT RIOT Act and its massive surveillance.
In any a good, general textual news site, you can read the things you really want to know about Covid-19 in 10 or 20 minutes a day. Then you won't fall behind on your work, and you won't be brainwashed into panic.
Keep calm and carry on!

Copyright © 2020 Richard Stallman Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved.

Stallman's a bit of a weirdo hippy but he's right about many, many things

 

[Shaved Kiwis]

MFW amazon won't let me scalp
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I'm sorry, I thought this was America!

View attachment 1187470

Richard Stallman's personal site.
https://stallman.org
For current political commentary, see the daily political notes.
RMS' Bio | The GNU Project
Don’t watch TV coverage of Covid-19!
— by Richard Stallman
Don't watch TV coverage of Covid-19! Watching repetitive coverage of something frightening can interfere with clear thinking, even traumatize people.
TV news coverage of a crisis struggles to fill 24 hours a day with "information", notwithstanding the fact that the actual flow of new information about the crisis is nowhere near sufficient to fill that time. What do they do? They repeat. They present tangential and minor details. They make the same points in different ways. They belabor the obvious. They repeat.
If your goal is to be informed, you don't need to dwell on the crisis for hours every day. Not even one hour a day. Getting your news in this inefficient matter will waste a lot of time — and worse.
In addition, it will make you more and more anxious. Someone I knew in 2001, who lived in California. spent all day on Sep 11 and following days watching the TV coverage. Afterward perse was afraid to go outside, watching for terrorist airplanes. TV made it possible for per to be traumatized by events 3000 miles away.
That was an unusually strong case. Most people did not get so traumatized as that. That does not imply it did not affect them. I suspect that the TV coverage may have shifted millions of people's perceptions, so that they overestimated the danger of terrorism while downplaying the danger of laws that take away freedom. This would have smoothed the path for careless passage of the dangerous USA PAT RIOT Act and its massive surveillance.
In any a good, general textual news site, you can read the things you really want to know about Covid-19 in 10 or 20 minutes a day. Then you won't fall behind on your work, and you won't be brainwashed into panic.
Keep calm and carry on!

Copyright © 2020 Richard Stallman Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved.

Stallman proven right yet again. After all your cans of beans corrode Stallman will continue eating industrial amounts of toe cheese that he effortlessly grows in his flip flops.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

I still want to know where the cock-up is in the CDC's handling of the test kits.

I'm also kind of wavering on the idea where we need to put soo much emphasis on testing. I'm thinking it's kind of irrelevant. If we implemented the social distancing and hygiene to be expected when someone near us has wuflu to all the time then it wouldn't really matter. If people had a stock of at least 2 weeks of food and a shelf of extra toiletries as a normal function we wouldn't see all this panicking.

I mean, let's think about the South Korean drive thru testing. Let's say you test positive, wonderful, now what? How long do you quarantine? What about your family and neighbors? Is everyone within two degrees of social distance from you supposed to be on lockdown for a month? The only real use I see for mass testing is when it comes to getting government assistance FOR going into lockdown. I'm just really getting into thinking that the obsession with testing is a bit misplaced.

 

[A Logging Company]

Stallman's a bit of a weirdo hippy but he's right about many, many things

And if he dies from the coof, he believes it is morally okay to fuck his dead body.

 

[F_Break]

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I hope somebody shoves one of those jumbo bottles of sanitizer up his ass and lights it. (Yes, I am very mad on the internet.)

 

[Shaved Kiwis]

FDNY firefighter tests positive for coronavirus, second member of department to contract illness

The firefighter contracted the illness while off-duty and through “community exposure” and not through a patient, the FDNY said.

www.nydailynews.com

FDNY dude tests positive for WuFlu looks like he got it via community spread.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

And if he dies from the coof, he believes it is morally okay to fuck his dead body.

Well I did write many things, not everything.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

CO2 emissions in China have dropped by 25% and oil prices are down like 50% due to Chain quarantining pretty much their entire labor force.
Shipping time from China to the west coast of the US is around 1 month via ship.
Take a guess what's happening.

Serpentza addressed day to day conditions in China in yesterday's ADVChina livestream.

He said things are starting to get back to normal, people are living their day to day lives again. This speaks to the relative sense of health and safety of the people living there.

Under normal conditions, in China, it takes about two weeks to load a high capacity cargo ship. It takes about a month for it to get where it's going, then it takes 2 - 4 weeks to fully unload it and get the contents to distribution centers. There are exceptions, but this is a general productivity measure that makes it's way into various models.

The question for us China watchers is, when do exports start up again? The virus moves pretty quickly, but not as quickly as markets. Something people fail to appreciate is how much information is collected and analyzed by Wall Street, especially when it comes to risk associated with supply chains. The story of the true impact on China's population will be told by M&A news, industry reports and market analysis.

Maersk is a buyer. Overall capacity has surpassed need, this means the cost of transporting goods overseas has gone down. Leaders in the shipping industry are buying up their competitors to reduce capacity and adjust to the market. Mersck had previously stated exports from China are down by 50%, 80% of their exports are overseas. Mergers are where the rubber meets the road. This mean shipping companies are betting exports don't come back the way they were - either China's planning to start using rail or they intend to stop servicing some markets.

There's a number of industry reports coming out with projections about the overall shipping market. Here's one. Here's another. You have to pay to read the full reports, and it's clear they are using pre-wuflu data. The key information usually comes from the table of contents, which gives you some hints about the criteria that matters to analysts.

The Five Forces analysis is usually what matters most in understanding financial impact during recovery. You want to understand competition for goods and services, potential for new players to pop up, consumer lock-in through supply chain economics, consumer leverage and potential to move supply chains to another State.

To answer the question about when supply chains are coming back, we can monitor C02 levels visually to understand where industry is coming back and where it's not. We can verify it through reports from Maersk telling us about container capacity and volumes coming out of China. We can watch for business news about shipping over rail, which should be available in English.

To answer longer term questions about China's industry, we can watch for news about other countries increasing production on products that formerly came from China, news about shortages of key goods in the US and Europe, and industry news about businesses moving out of China.

I suspect we are nearing the end of the open societies movement, which is the vehicle for influencing public opinion related to globalism. Aside from coronavirus, there's an increased awareness of the threat associated with external players controlling western supply chains. The faster China can restore exports and a sense of normality to the rest of the world, the less urgent this awareness will seem. But I get the feeling China is hesitant to do so and wonder what has changed.

 

[Reverend]

Its these god damned hoarders who are FUCKING things up because of their single brain cell is working on overdrive.

It got boarder line violent in my local Walley World just because of that fucking mentality. When an employee went through the front door before opening time the crowd just plowed right in.

The one picture where there is literally cases of baby wipes and sanitary wet napkins right next to the TP is a sign that these Panic Buyers are so laser like focused they can't see a complimentary product RIGHT NEXT TO THEM.

What does it matter if it says "baby wipe" it'll still wipe your ass as well as your crotchfruits.

 

[Smug Cat]

The coof has come home to roost, lads.

Wonder if anyone else feels the same about this -

I just can't find myself to have any sympathy for normies complaining about the hoarding on toilet paper.

These assholes were the same idiots we tried telling a month ago that it would be smart to stock up early on supplies and ignored us and said, "lol, it's just a flu bro."

I'm seeing SO many comments of people bitching about the toilet paper hoarding, it's starting to piss me off. No fuck there's hoarding, it's because there's panic, and what did we warn two months ago? That the biggest threat wouldn't be the virus, it would be the people fighting over the last roll of toilet paper.

Tried to fucking warn you

I'm seriously having trouble holding in my "I FUCKING TRIED TO WARN YOU"s to the people who were mocking me for being an alarmist a few weeks ago. One of my coworkers at least listened to me and stocked up on necessities in advance of the general panic rush. He was thanking me yesterday for sounding the alarm so he could be properly prepared, even though he didn't really believe it would be a big deal at the time.

To play devil's advocate for the normies for but a moment, I can't exactly blame them for initially scoffing about corona. There's been what, half a dozen false alarm pandemic scares over the past couple decades or so where something seemed like it was going to be the next black plague but didn't even get halfway close (at least on a global scale)? That and as it has been discussed, people haven't had to deal with a tragedy of this magnitude since 9/11, so the populace is soft, cushy and generally not used to hardship. And that's even before factoring in the media brainwashing everyone with "It's just the flu" up until less than a week ago.

So while the stupidity on worldwide display is inexcusable, let us take a moment to remember the reasons why that is.

Half of those weren't enormous because we immediately took extreme precautions. It is so much better to overreact instead of underreact for situations like this. People are fucking stupid.

This is just ridiculous. SARS and H1N1 never produced such hysteria and government protocols. We currently have few cases in Canada yet they are closing schools, businesses and are really to enforce ''social distance''. Back in the day, SARS infected hundreds of people in Toronto and there was virtually none of this. I don't even remember a government statement issue, just nothing.

I'm finding this all completely inappropriate. Pathologists agree it's not particularly deadly to most people and there is NOT many cases in the U.S or Canada yet we have this insane reaction.

I want to say something again about H1N1, it had a much higher mortality rate amongst the young than COVID-19 but was never taken seriously. They never closed any schools or universities over swine flu like they're doing over COVID. I just can not understand this?

Look, if you can't be arsed to look at the actual numbers here, or at least read back in the thread to get even the most basic understanding of why this is such a big deal, then don't bother commenting. I swear, every five seconds we have some new completely uninformed moron popping up in this thread going "BUT Y THEY CANCEL SPORTSBALL???? THIS ONLY FLU (((((((" It's getting old.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

The one picture where there is literally cases of baby wipes and sanitary wet napkins right next to the TP is a sign that these Panic Buyers are so laser like focused they can't see a complimentary product RIGHT NEXT TO THEM.

What does it matter if it says "baby wipe" it'll still wipe your ass as well as your crotchfruits.

Or component products that do the same job cheaper but require assembly.

Isopropyl alcohol, gels and shop rags are still cheap on eBay, drug store and motor parts websites.

 

[UnKillFill]

I accidentally had Chinese food for lunch. Am I gonna die now?

 

[MadStan]

Trump could have literally developed the cure for the virus in his free time by himself and the news media would crucify him for not coming out with it soon enough. The poor fuck can't win.

Frankly, Trump deserves all the crap he gets. To compile a list of the shit he has said about others and blatant lies would be a forum into itself. He deserves no breaks - which is lucky cause Covid-19 isn't going to give him any.

 

[Iuz]

I accidentally had Chinese food for lunch. Am I gonna die now?

Yes, and that wasn't chicken.

 

[UnKillFill]

Yes, and that wasn't chicken.

You mean it wasn't pork...

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

This speaks to the relative sense of health and safety of the people living there.

Aren‘t the Chinese notorious chain smokers? At least the ones who lived in my old apartment complex were. Good thing I moved out of there.

 

[Quijibo69]

We should takes bets if it will be back to normal or everything will be closed by this time next week.