Manosphere Amud - The Balloon Loon, Loveshy Extraordinaire

[Amud]

You're blowing finger cots up your nose to adjust the maxilla? What is this twisting you're talking about?
Please tell us more.

The finger cot thing is inspired by Neurocranial Restructuring therapy. After carefully examining my maxilla, I came to the conclusion that it is twisted.

Hi @Amud, thank you for your candor with this topic and acknowledging your knowledge deficiencies in this area. I can try to help you.

What's wrong with barter? Well, on the face of it, nothing. People produce things, and trade those things for what they need, right? Sounds good.

Why is money useful?

Let's pretend I'm an kiwi farmer. I farm kiwi fruit. I have my farm, and I'm good at what I do. I produce lots of kiwi fruit, more than I can eat, but I need things. I need a new bicycle.

How many kiwi fruit should I trade for this bicycle? This is a hard question to immediately answer without converting it to money. "A lot", you might say. A wheelbarrow-ful or so. How big is the wheelbarrow? How deep?

Instead, I could just say they're $1 each, and a bicycle is worth $200.

Money is a unit of value that allows the worth of an item to be expressed easily.

Other problems arise too. Kiwi fruit rots quickly. How can I transport one wheelbarrow full of kiwi fruit to the bicycle seller, without it spoiling? What if that bicycle seller is in Florida and I'm in Ohio? What if I only produce an excess of 50 kiwi fruit a month? What do I do if I want a big purchase like a bike, or a house?

Money is a way of storing value so that it can be traded at a later date.

It gets worse. Let's say I give up on my Florida-bike-owning dream and instead want to buy a bike locally. However, there's only parts sellers, and a lot of them have incomplete inventories. Now I have to hunt down fifty or so people who want to trade bike parts for kiwi fruit, and hope they all have enough parts to make a complete bicycle. And that they will accept kiwi fruit.

Put more simply, what happens if I want to trade kiwi fruit for bicycles, and the bike seller is allergic to kiwi fruit?

Money is a standardised medium of exchange which means that everyone gets something they can use.

All this is with something as simple and basic as fruit farming. Things become a lot more complicated when you add in more advanced service skills. If you think you had it bad under the barter system, think about how your brother, the software engineer, is doing. If I want him to write a custom piece of software for me that will take him 80 hours of work, so two weeks, what is he going to do with the 4,000 kiwi fruit I'm going to dump on his doorstep (assuming $50 an hour, kiwi fruit $1 each)?

All the above problems come into play as well.

Money is portable.

The barter system can work, but only in very small communities where people do not have a large amount of excess produce beyond what they need to survive, and that produce is fairly homogeneous, such as a hippy community of kiwi fruit farmers. The value of a kiwi is standard and understood, there are few transportation problems, it's assumed that everyone who lives their at least tolerates the taste of kiwi fruit, and it works for them.

In this case, though, they literally are using money, they're just a kiwi based system rather than dollars.

So what is money?

All dollars are, really, are tokens expressing effort. Someone did productive work, such as farming kiwi fruit, and produced things people wanted. They acknowledge this want by expending some of their effort obtaining that produce.

That's all it is. Neither good, nor evil. It is amoral (meaning, without consideration to morals). It's not something to be feared or hated, and its allowed our species to travel to other worlds. You can't build a space shuttle with barter.

I hope this was helpful to you, and that you accept that the barter system is a foolish, impractical system for anything bigger than a hippy dippy kiwi farm.

That was useful, and I do accept that barter is a foolish, impractical system for anything bigger than a hippy dippy kiwi farm. It's very unfortunate then, that I hate money and banks. I think living in a very primitive society that has no need for money is superior to using some kind of modern economics system. It is by far the lesser of two evils.

Oh, I won't be surprised at all if that's the conclusion. I was just trying to be optimistic and give him a chance to maybe save himself a miniscule speck of dignity. Or waiting for him to actually confirm it so we could all point and laugh, as per usual.

But since he ignored my question, as he has ignored every question of mine except the silly one pertaining to lesbians in which I detected the slightest traces of irritation at discussing how even girls get more poon than he does, I am now officially going to assume it's the latter.

I shall now take this time to be a dick, and casually mention that even girls can get girls, but the only thing Amud can get is a finger cot up the nose. And it probably doesn't even want to be there.

If I ignored your posts, there could have been several reasons for it.

1. you asked a question that I had already answered earlier in the thread
2. you insulted me, projected biases onto me, or accused me of racism and sexism
3. you discussed condoms in noses

Since this thread is almost at 60 already, and I have no intention of reading through the whole damn thing, I'd just like to ask how far down the Neanderthal rabbit hole you guys have gone. Have the names "Koanic Soul" or "Cleveland Blakemore" come up? I'm pretty sure the face chart is originally from Koanic's blog, although the names were different, and Cleveland has even referred to himself as an "amud."

Varg Vikernes is also into the Neanderthal supremacy shit.

The face chart in this thread was not from Koanic's blog. I just made it a few days ago. I have made other face charts in my time, one of which was featured on Vault-Co.

I am not sure if KoanicSoul has come up yet in this thread, but yes, I believe he and @Amud are well acquainted. According to our Neandertal loremaster-in-residence in his posts on sluthate, if you submit your pictures to KoanicSoul for facial analysis, it is actually he who will probably end up doing it for you, as Koanic is a busy guy.

When @Amud refers to his interactions with Texas Arcane, that appears to be an alias for Cleveland Blakemore. @Amud thinks highly of him and appears to believe he is a credible authority.

@Amud, please correct me if I am wrong on any of this.

That is correct. I will say that I take a lot of what Blakemore says with a grain of salt and don't defer to him as a 100% perfect authority. However, I do enjoy his blog and I think that he has a lot of wonderful ideas.

 

[Stratomsk]

That was useful, and I do accept that barter is a foolish, impractical system for anything bigger than a hippy dippy kiwi farm. It's very unfortunate then, that I hate money and banks. I think living in a very primitive society that has no need for money is superior to using some kind of modern economics system. It is by far the lesser of two evils.

Could you elaborate on why you think this way?

 

[Marvin]

Ok, seriously, are we just acting like an inexpensive community college where we educate dipshits on things like basic economics and basic biology?

Shit, this thread (along with the anti-vaxxer thread) is one of the most poignant arguments in favor for more aggressive science-based education standards I've ever seen.

 

[Chan the Wizard]

@Amud
Do you have a job? Who pays for your school? Who pays for the condoms you shove up your nose?

You're in school for programming? In a barter system what physical good could you produce for a delicious kiwi fruit? As a kiwi farmer, I would prefer to trade my kiwis for some delicious cow milk, what would you offer me that I could use?

 

[Kablamo]

Hey @Amud , it's me again. I have a few questions that haven't been addressed.

1. How do you get a reliable seal between the sphygmomanometer and the condoms you put inside your nose?

2. What brand do you use?

3. What pressure do you aim for and how long do you keep that pressure constant?

4. Do you use lubrication when guiding them with a toothpick?

5. How do you prevent the toothpick from piercing the condoms?

6. Have you experienced any chaffing, dryness, pain, discharge or any other complication?

7. Have you ever consulted a physician about this procedure?

 

[GeorgeDaMoose]

The finger cot thing is inspired by Neurocranial Restructuring therapy. After carefully examining my maxilla, I came to the conclusion that it is twisted.

After looking up Neurocranial Restructuring, I'd have to say it does look interesting. I'm not sure I know enough to really make a judgment on it, but from what I read the process is a lot more complex than just inflating finger cots up your nose. I have never heard of a twisted Maxilla, are you sure you're not talking about your tissue? How did you even manage to examine your maxilla? Have you seen a doctor about this at all?

 

[Trombonista]

Have you seen a doctor about this at all?

I think it's pretty obvious he hasn't.

 

[sparklemilhouse]

Every time I see this guy's icon, I begin to have trouble breathing out of my nose. Can't..breathe.

 

[Chan the Wizard]

5/5 doctors agree this isn't how you untwist your maxilla.

 

[Tricksy Fuckin Hobbitses]

If I ignored your posts, there could have been several reasons for it.

1. you asked a question that I had already answered earlier in the thread
2. you insulted me, projected biases onto me, or accused me of racism and sexism
3. you discussed condoms in noses

I asked the following questions pertaining to your solutions to dealing with inbred aristocratic banker scum:

1: Where are they being deported to?
2: Where are they being imprisoned?
3: In what manner are they going to be executed?
4: Who's going to be paying for the sterilization? (this one's new)

 

[Positron]

Have you seen a doctor about this at all?

I think it's pretty obvious he hasn't.

H. sapiens doctors don't know about his superior Neandie immune system.

How do you get a reliable seal between the sphygmomanometer and the condoms you put inside your nose? What brand do you use? What pressure do you aim for and how long do you keep that pressure constant? Do you use lubrication when guiding them with a toothpick? How do you prevent the toothpick from piercing the condoms? Have you experienced any chaffing, dryness, pain, discharge or any other complication?

Think about it. A genuine condom is better suited for this... application... than finger-cots. Condoms are checked for air leaks, pre-lubricated, and individually packed to prevent contamination (not that it matters with his super immune system).

 

[Ca Ira]

@Amud - Do you believe you are superior to Oscar Wilde?

For those playing along at home, Amud has assessed Oscar Wilde's face shape as more ignobilid than his own.

 

[Meowthkip]

Since this thread is almost at 60 already, and I have no intention of reading through the whole damn thing, I'd just like to ask how far down the Neanderthal rabbit hole you guys have gone. Have the names "Koanic Soul" or "Cleveland Blakemore" come up? I'm pretty sure the face chart is originally from Koanic's blog, although the names were different, and Cleveland has even referred to himself as an "amud."

Varg Vikernes is also into the Neanderthal supremacy shit.

@Amud Do you think Varg Vikernes is typical of Neanderthal supremacists? Is he a good example? Are you a Burzum fan?

Also, if Neanderthals are so superior, then how comes they're all fuckin' dead?

 

[Chan the Wizard]

@Amud
What shape are your parents' skulls?
Are they patotids or did they just get a patotid for a son?

 

[namazuros]

That was useful, and I do accept that barter is a foolish, impractical system for anything bigger than a hippy dippy kiwi farm. It's very unfortunate then, that I hate money and banks. I think living in a very primitive society that has no need for money is superior to using some kind of modern economics system. It is by far the lesser of two evils.

How do you feel about modern medicine and vaccinations?

 

[Amud]

Could you elaborate on why you think this way?

It inevitably leads to big economies and big governments which have corruption, stealing, bank leaching, and so on.

@Amud
Do you have a job? Who pays for your school? Who pays for the condoms you shove up your nose?

You're in school for programming? In a barter system what physical good could you produce for a delicious kiwi fruit? As a kiwi farmer, I would prefer to trade my kiwis for some delicious cow milk, what would you offer me that I could use?

I would prefer not to answer any more personal questions, after somebody threatened to attempt to dox me.

Hey @Amud , it's me again. I have a few questions that haven't been addressed.

1. How do you get a reliable seal between the sphygmomanometer and the condoms you put inside your nose?

2. What brand do you use?

3. What pressure do you aim for and how long do you keep that pressure constant?

4. Do you use lubrication when guiding them with a toothpick?

5. How do you prevent the toothpick from piercing the condoms?

6. Have you experienced any chaffing, dryness, pain, discharge or any other complication?

7. Have you ever consulted a physician about this procedure?

1. I wrap dental floss around it very tightly. It works fine
2. I use CVS brand finger cots.
3. It doesn't have a meter, you just squeeze the bulb. I usually squeeze it 3 times.
4. I lubricate it with water
5. I use a plastic toothpick with the pointy end cut off and filed to a smooth end
6. I usually get a runny nose for a few minutes after doing it. Sometimes it feels uncomfortable but not overtly painful.
7. I have not

After looking up Neurocranial Restructuring, I'd have to say it does look interesting. I'm not sure I know enough to really make a judgment on it, but from what I read the process is a lot more complex than just inflating finger cots up your nose. I have never heard of a twisted Maxilla, are you sure you're not talking about your tissue? How did you even manage to examine your maxilla? Have you seen a doctor about this at all?

No, I'm talking about the maxilla. I'm looking at the whole maxilla including zygomatic bones, nasal cavity, and upper jaw. My pattern of facial asymmetry is consistent with my maxilla being twisted, or rotated in two directions.

I asked the following questions pertaining to your solutions to dealing with inbred aristocratic banker scum:

1: Where are they being deported to?
2: Where are they being imprisoned?
3: In what manner are they going to be executed?
4: Who's going to be paying for the sterilization? (this one's new)

1. Sweden would probably be happy to take them
2. Uh, at a prison?
3. Guillotines, hangings, firing squad, I don't care what way it's done.
4. In my society, stuff like that would be cheap because we wouldn't have to pay for all the bureaucratic nonsense, paperwork, etc. Just pay for the raw materials which is like a few dollars.

@Amud - Do you believe you are superior to Oscar Wilde?

For those playing along at home, Amud has assessed Oscar Wilde's face shape as more ignobilid than his own.

I never said he was more Ignobilid than I am.

@Amud Do you think Varg Vikernes is typical of Neanderthal supremacists? Is he a good example? Are you a Burzum fan?

Also, if Neanderthals are so superior, then how comes they're all fuckin' dead?

1. I don't think he's typical of Neanderthal supremacists
2. I have listened to a bit of Burzum and find it reasonably good
3. They didn't die out, they transitioned into Sapiens through a combination of degenerate de-evolution and absorbing gene flow from various sources.

How do you feel about modern medicine and vaccinations?

I can probably thank it since there's a good chance I would have died by now without it, but I have to admit that overall it has done more harm for humanity than good.

 

[namazuros]

I can probably thank it since there's a good chance I would have died by now without it, but I have to admit that overall it has done more harm for humanity than good.

Would you mind elaborating on how eradicating diseases and improving the quality of life for billions of people is 'more harm than good'? I'm not exactly sure where you're coming from here.

 

[Chan the Wizard]

@Amud
I have no desire to dox you or even a way to dox you from you answering how you pay for school, your nose condoms or your major.

Also, I have no way of doxing you from you answering what physical good you would offer for my plump and delicious kiwis.

 

[Meowthkip]

1. I don't think he's typical of Neanderthal supremacists
2. I have listened to a bit of Burzum and find it reasonably good
3. They didn't die out, they transitioned into Sapiens through a combination of degenerate de-evolution and absorbing gene flow from various sources.

Number three. That last bit.

Care to explain what that means in layman's terms?

 

[Coldgrip]

I would prefer not to answer any more personal questions, after somebody threatened to attempt to dox me.

So basically, you live with your parents, don't have a job, they pay for everything and you spend time here trying desperately to convince us that your pseudoscience has legitimate value while shoving condoms up your nose.

You know, for someone who claims to be a neanderthal you sure do spend quite a bit of time here instead of hunting for mega-fauna in order to survive. Or are you just a bad hunter?