Wuhan Coronavirus: Lockdowns, Quarantines, Cancellations

Welp, shit's getting real: Twerpy Tony has shut down all the bars in Wisconsin, not to mention churches, malls, restaurants, and gyms.

MADISON - Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers' administration Tuesday closed or effectively closed churches, malls, bars, restaurants and gyms starting at 5 p.m.

At the Democratic governor's direction, Health Services Secretary Andrea Palm issued an order telling malls, bars and restaurants to close and limiting other gatherings of or more people. It applies to churches, theaters, movie theaters, arenas, fitness centers and numerous other places.

"We know this will disrupt your lives," Palm told reporters in a conference call. "Now is the time to make a plan to stay home."

Palm issued the order as Evers and leaders around the globe try to beat back a widening pandemic that has killed more than 7,500 worldwide. In Wisconsin there have been 72 confirmed cases, including at least one involving someone who has since recovered.

Also Tuesday, Evers said schools would remain closed until further notice, signaling an extension of an order that previously had been in place until early April. The restriction applies to all public and private schools, including institutions of higher learning.

Evers said he would seek emergency legislation to allow people to receive unemployment benefits immediately, instead of having to wait a week before getting them.

Evers said he would issue an emergency order Wednesday that would temporarily lift a requirement that the unemployed search for work each week to receive benefits.

Palm said there has been community spread of the illness in Milwaukee, Dane and Kenosha counties, meaning people have been infected within those communities rather than by traveling. The rapid spread of the illness, along with strains on processing tests, necessitated the new restrictions, Palm said.

The new order tightens one issued 24 hours earlier that barred gatherings of 50 or more people.

The earlier decision gave restaurants and bars the ability to remain open if they limited their capacity. Under the new order, they can remain open only for takeout.

Even before Evers initial order took effect, Milwaukee and many of its neighboring communities shut down bars and restaurants, saying keeping them open was a threat to public health.

For gatherings of fewer than 10, people must stay at least six feet away from each other to help prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

Local officials will be responsible for enforcing the ban on restaurants and bars. Those who violate the order could be subject to fines of $250 and 30 days in jail and Ryan Nilsestuen, Evers' chief counsel.

The limits on gatherings includes some exemptions, such as for airports, gas stations, grocery stores, childcare facilities, group homes, hotels, jails, courts, government agencies, hospitals, clinics, offices, manufacturing facilities, polling places and some retail establishments.

Evers' latest edict puts the same rules in effect statewide and forced restaurants and bars to close as they were preparing for Tuesday's St. Patrick's Day celebrations.

Evers took a similar path last week on schools, issuing an order on Friday but amending it soon afterward. Evers at first said schools would close at the end of the day Wednesday, only to say on Sunday that school would not resume the next day.

Evers stressed the need for people to change how they live their daily lives.

"Stay home if you can," Evers told reporters in the conference call.
 
Guys, I got a completely revolutionary idea: why not instead of immediately resorting to economy-tanking, school-fucking measures which massively disrupt 99% of the entire first world, why not...strongly advise elders to be cautious and stay at home as much as possible? Maybe even resort to quarantining just them? And then start closing schools and businesses and shit if that doesn't curb the elder infection cases—you know, the ones that are actually potentially life-threatening—after a week?
 
Guys, I got a completely revolutionary idea: why not instead of immediately resorting to economy-tanking, school-fucking measures which massively disrupt 99% of the entire first world, why not...strongly advise elders to be cautious and stay at home as much as possible? Maybe even resort to quarantining just them? And then start closing schools and businesses and shit if that doesn't curb the elder infection cases—you know, the ones that are actually potentially life-threatening—after a week?
Because there's no way of knowing how many new infections there would be after that week on account of incubation period, asymptomatic carriers, etc. It's erring on the side of caution.

People aren't just being asked to quarantine to keep Fred and Ethel Mertz alive.
 
If you want to limit your own exposure just don't go outside, let the people dumb enough to run around in massive crowds do so.
Except infection can spread during a gathering and then when the gathering breaks up all those people go off and interact with other groups, potentially infecting them.

Christ on a bike, this is basic shit. All those people don't stay in one place, together. They go home or to work or school and infect people who would otherwise be safe(r). The consequences don't end with the stupid people being the only ones to get sick.
 
Except infection can spread during a gathering and then when the gathering breaks up all those people go off and interact with other groups, potentially infecting them.

Christ on a bike, this is basic shit. All those people don't stay in one place, together. They go home or to work or school and infect people who would otherwise be safe(r). The consequences don't end with the stupid people being the only ones to get sick.

It's everyone's own responsibility to keep themselves safe. Saying people need to be forced into quarantine when they aren't even infected, just because they might become infected, is ridiculous and infringes on their own rights. You said in your earlier post people have a "right to have their exposure limited", but that's not really true. They have the right to personally exercise any precaution they want to limit their own exposure, but they can't impose upon other people's rights in order to do so.
 
I'm not necessarily a believer in the "deliberate fear mongering to achieve X" train of thought, but a note toward potential "why tank the economy then?" :

Ultra-rich aren't legitimately "hurting" from a market slump (like "retirement up in smoke" hurting). And this won't last forever. I'd be willing to bet the ultra-rich are in fact "buying the dip," shoring wealth and increasing holdings and influence for the inevitable (whatever the timeframe) recovery (even without recovery, their shareholder influence increases).
 
It's everyone's own responsibility to keep themselves safe. Saying people need to be forced into quarantine when they aren't even infected, just because they might become infected, is ridiculous and infringes on their own rights. You said in your earlier post people have a "right to have their exposure limited", but that's not really true. They have the right to personally exercise any precaution they want to limit their own exposure, but they can't impose upon other people's rights in order to do so.
Please explain how my exposure is better limited by the fact that the cashier who rung me up was able to spend the night before drinking in a nightclub with 350 potentially infected fellow revelers. They could be literally the only person I could come face-to-face with in a 24-hour period and I would be at risk just on account of their activities.

Again, consider the well-being of people you've never met for three seconds and find some other way to spend your time.
 
motherfuckers, that stargate boxed set is vital to my mental health and wellbeing!
 
Guys, I got a completely revolutionary idea: why not instead of immediately resorting to economy-tanking, school-fucking measures which massively disrupt 99% of the entire first world, why not...strongly advise elders to be cautious and stay at home as much as possible? Maybe even resort to quarantining just them? And then start closing schools and businesses and shit if that doesn't curb the elder infection cases—you know, the ones that are actually potentially life-threatening—after a week?
Shit like this is why you're not in charge of anything.
 
Your right to act like a dumb fuck does not override another person's right to have their exposure limited. Find something else to do with your time for three to six months.

Jacinda Arden (NZ PM) thought that KiwiFarms was contributing to "radicalising" of "white men", so she insisted that telco's put a block on access to KF and other similar places. Tarrant's remove kebab removed 1% of Christchurch's muslim population. A pretty decent kill count.

By that thought process - Your right to act like a dumb fuck and access KF is impinging upon the rights of others to have their exposure to wrong think and thus murder, limited. Delete your account and find something else to do with your time then.

Using a virus that will enter the regular roster of flu season viruses next year and will have a low kill count, to take rights to freely exist from 90% of the population who won't be adversely effected by it, to protect a small number that will, is no different than people who think wrong think like KF should be wiped off the face of the internet.
Hence why the EARN IT act is being tossed around right now. Jordan is already banning newspapers from being printed. At the end of the day, it's just limiting the liberties of the individual to protect against what is in actuality, a minimal threat.

These are some easy to read stats on Corona Virus. Remembering that the death rate isn't inclusive of the 94% active mild cases that will recover, the projected death rate is likely to be at about 2-5% for the initial pandemic.
The 2009 Swine Flu shit infected around 7.5-9 million and had a death rate of around 3-5%. Did the world shut down?
No.

Look at the areas putting these "shelter in place" measures in place -

CORONAVIRUS 3:40 P.M.
What Does It Mean to ‘Shelter in Place’?
By Erica Schwiegershausen

On Tuesday morning, Americans woke up to headlines that the San Francisco Bay Area — home to more than 7 million people — had been ordered to “shelter in place” to combat the spread of coronavirus. The new orders, which were announced on Monday afternoon and went into effect at midnight, bar residents from leaving their homes except for “essential” activities for at least the next three weeks.
The Bay Area has had one of the largest coronavirus outbreaks in the country, with more than 273 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and four deaths as of Tuesday morning, and the new restrictions are some of the strictest the U.S. has seen so far. But other cities may be quick to follow: On Tuesday afternoon, New York City mayor Bill de Blasio warned residents to prepare for a potential “shelter in place” order within the next 48 hours, though Governor Andrew Cuomo has reportedly disputed this plan.
So what exactly does it mean to “shelter in place”? Will other cities enact similar measures? Here’s what we know so far.
What does “shelter in place” mean for people who live in the Bay Area?
On Monday, officials in the Bay Area ordered residents to “shelter in place” until at least April 7. This means that residents who live in the affected counties must stay home except for essential reasons.
What’s considered “essential”? According to the order, residents are allowed to leave their homes to buy groceries. Supermarkets will remain open, and restaurants will continue to provide pickup and delivery. People can also leave their homes to take care of the health and safety of anyone in their household (including pets), which includes doctors appointments and trips to the pharmacy. Residents are allowed to go outside, provided they stay at least six feet away from anyone they don’t live with, but you are not supposed to travel (by any means) unless it’s for an “essential” activity.
Residents should not leave home to go to work unless they work for an “essential” business, which includes people who work in grocery stores or pharmacies or who provide other essential services, such as delivering food, mail or packages, picking up garbage, and maintaining electrical systems. Health-care workers are also exempt from the order.
According to the order, failure to comply “is a misdemeanor punishable by fine, imprisonment, or both.” The region’s more than 30,000 homeless people are exempt from the order, though California Governor Gavin Newsom has said the state is working to set up additional shelters.
Will other cities in the U.S. enact similar restrictions?
On Tuesday afternoon, Mayor Bill de Blasio said he was considering a shelter-in-place order for New York, which could be enacted in the next 48 hours, though it remains unclear whether this will happen, as Governor Cuomo has reportedly disputed the plan. De Blasio said Tuesday that he may also institute curfews and road restrictions. (New Yorkers can text “COVID” to 692692 for accurate updates.)
Additionally, earlier this week, a growing number of cities, including New York and Los Angeles, closed bars, restaurants (except for takeout), and other nonessential businesses, and the Trump administration discouraged gatherings of more than ten people. It’s not yet clear if other cities will enact similar shelter-in-place measures.


San Francisco. Mmm. Really makes you think.
It's not so bad to stay at home if you don't have enough social need to leave huh? Putting a Chinese style social credit system in place won't be so hard either. I mean you want to protect people don't you?
 
By that thought process - Your right to act like a dumb fuck and access KF is impinging upon the rights of others to have their exposure to wrong think and thus murder, limited. Delete your account and
That's very funny, but I've seen your posts elsewhere. You're more intelligent than to think this is anything but a massive false equivalence on a number of levels. Do yourself some credit.
low kill count
I don't care about kill count. I care about infection potentiality, which is quite high especially on account of a lack of a vaccine, which several other strains of flu do have.
Look at the areas putting these "shelter in place" measures in place -
So, no group outside recreational activities for two to three weeks. Again, I don't care.
 
Isn't this supposed to be the reporting of Lockdowns, Quarantines and Closures thread, not the sperging about the necessity of Lockdowns, Quarantines and Closures thread? Just use this thread to tell us who's shut down what and open a separate thread for all political discussions pertaining to the WuFlu fallout. It's getting so I have to sort through a lot of crap just to read the announcements.
 
Got to see the lockdown of Newfoundland go through a leap in live time. This morning there was only 1 case on the Island (it's thought to actually be in Labrador) and the schools were supposed to have two more days with kids able to pick up their items. As soon as two more cases were confirmed by the public health within 15 minutes a memo was out that the previous plan was no longer happening and no one was accessing schools except for picking up required items - like medical equipment or medicines.

494 People have been tested in Newfoundland, 491 of them were negative. The two new cases are related to the first, very likely family. People are very stressed and many of them are turning to facebook to air out their grievances about people coming home and not quarantining, seeing a lot of posts of people saying call 811 to report people you know have come back but aren't self-isolating for the 14 days. That or the ones who have come back are on facebook talking about their decision too follow the precaution which is annoying as well but in a tolerable way because at least they had sense.

Alberta, BC, and Ontario all had case jumps today. The beginning of the peak for Canada?

Still seeing claims that a lot of cases are travel related. The problem is these people are probably tested once they arrive which still puts everyone whose been on planes with them at risk. Stop travelling. It ain't that hard. If they're doing flights from places where it's already bad then they should only be those people.

The fact that people really be out here proving they'd need to be legally mandated before they'll self quarantine has got me MOTI. That and they're also given mixed answers on if they need to or no, Newfoundland government really just flying by the seat of their pants and praying it doesn't get bad. Newfoundland has a very high population of elderly, many of which are the local doctors, if it starts spreading it'll be very bad.
 
You're not tinfoiling. I actually was thinking the same thing, and how as we move closer to a possible, dystopian/utopian future that things like this can give a formula or pattern to follow. The virus was already in spread since late 2019, and everyone was perfectly fine to do whatever then. Now, as they have finally become aware of shit that was known underground for a while, it's become panic mode. It shows how dumb the majority become, and how easy it really is to get them to fall in line.

We've received reports of not having gatherings involving more than 10 people, from people in rooms with potentially hundreds of them lol Asymptomatic people don't even get tested, unless they've been in close contact with someone who tested positive with symptoms. It all makes zero sense the more you think about it, but it still has incited mass fear. The guidelines given to protect are basically wash your ass and your hands, which is what reasonable adults already do. More people have masks on that I'd typically see from the Asian community, and that's because many (Asians) came from areas that are full of pollutants and horrible air quality.

Can you imagine if we do nothing that ONE THOUSAND BOOMERS might DIE?!?
Tanking 100 years of economic growth and deleting all civil rights is well worth saving the lives of 1000 eighty/ninety-year olds.

Is there a meme "Think of the Boomers!" ? If not, there should be.

Also, (((studies))) show that using the N-word spreads the American Coronavirus.
 
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