Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[moocow]

here's the text of the bill:

READ: Senate Republicans' Latest Coronavirus Relief Bill

The third legislative package to deal with the outbreak, the proposal would provide direct cash payments, help for small businesses and more resources for testing.

www.npr.org

and an article about it from a reputable source:

'An Utter Disgrace': GOP Stimulus Plan Would Cut Taxes for Corporations While Denying Benefits to Poorest

"Senate Republicans are using the COVID-19 pandemic to cut corporate taxes again and stop you from getting paid sick leave."

www.commondreams.org

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So the general consensus from the pundits so far seems to be "fuck the middle class" then? They sure seem angry that the most productive segment of the population (that actually pays in more than it takes out) might be getting a hand staying afloat so they stand some chance of remaining productive while those already accustomed to bread & water get a stipend for more and the rich get told to dig through their own pockets for change.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

As far as I can tell it looks like the Neocons and Neoliberals are working together to ensure Trumpbucks either don't get off the ground or are so watered down that they are nullified; A bipartisan kiss of death if you will.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

As far as I can tell it looks like the Neocons and Neoliberals are working together to ensure Trumpbucks either don't get off the ground or are so watered down that they are nullified; A bipartisan kiss of death if you will.

We should go back to catapulting infected corpses at their fancy houses.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Australia joined the 'Lucky Thousand' club just moments ago according to the live tracker:

1023 Cases / 7 Dead / 52 Recovered.

Iran's numbers worry me. Makes me think there's another more lethal strain out there.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Floridaman commissioner chimps out over mayor refusing to stop utility shutoffs:

https://youtu.be/2bgCCXSrwHA

 

[Miss Misery]

think more like... mumps. I can't get more detailed, we don't have the data yet.
it's a really nasty death, if you die. it leaves permanent effects if you don't. enough said

to call it a covid-related death we look at the course of disease (known symptoms) length of that course, and physical signs on autopsy:
firm, sticky, filled lungs
lack of oxygen evident in organs and extremities
enlarged spleen
intestinal lining disturbances
lack of oxygenation to reproductive parts

I understand if you can't say more and I truly appreciate everything that you have shared already, but... do they think it could cause sterility like mumps can with males?

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

Iran's numbers worry me. Makes me think there's another more lethal strain out there.

Could just be the Sanctions fucking them over tbh; Deaths seem to fly up once the medical system runs out of supplies/gets overwhelmed.

 

[TurdFondler]

Holy fuck! Everyone is getting laid off or let go. Trades are absolutely FUCKED and I can't see the economy recovering for at least a year if this thing were to end tomorrow

 

[melty]

Unfortunately the whole blackout babies phenomenon has proven to be wishful thinking.

Edit: Snopes are saying that the Chinese Coronavirus was "spread from" Wuhan, when it clearly originated there. So boo to you, Snopes.

The idea of another Baby Boomer generation genuinely makes me feel ill. I hope this is true.

Mostly what seems to be happening is people figure out they hate their spouse after spending a lot of time with them.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Could just be the Sanctions fucking them over tbh; Deaths seem to fly up once the medical system runs out of supplies/gets overwhelmed.

It's plausible, but I'd think they could get supplied by China and Russia. Of course if they're not, it really indicates China is lying like a motherfucker because there's no way China would not take advantage of an easy method of getting oil unless they had to.

 

[millais]

The idea of another Baby Boomer generation genuinely makes me feel ill. I hope this is true.

Mostly what seems to be happening is people figure out they hate their spouse after spending a lot of time with them.

This is what has happened in China. Divorce rates spiked after they lifted the lockdown, since people fell out with one another after being trapped in their tiny apartments during such a stressful situation for months.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Holy fuck! Everyone is getting laid off or let go. Trades are absolutely FUCKED and I can't see the economy recovering for at least a year if this thing were to end tomorrow

Small business is absolutely destroyed in America and I'd be surprised if even 10% could come back from this if this nonsense continues to August.

 

[TheRedChair]

If you can remember my statement on using a bandana or a T shirt is a mask... over a month ago... the few of us who is in the know.. who has some background in dealing with germs.... well now you get this info which in a way much to late to make a real difference in staving off the virus in massive scale. It is only helpful at your local level to protect you if are are in a hot spot.

Coronavirus: CDC advises health workers to use homemade masks or bandanas amid shortages as ‘last resort’

There are a few of us who are giving out the correct information weeks and months in advance. Keep up with the information fellow kiwi's so we can continue to give out the logical information weeks if not months in advance before the government and media tells you, because if you are going to rely on that type of reporting it just might be too late for you.

 

[ditto]

The idea of another Baby Boomer generation genuinely makes me feel ill. I hope this is true.

Mostly what seems to be happening is people figure out they hate their spouse after spending a lot of time with them.

Hell is other people, after all.

 

[ADHD]

Unfortunately the whole blackout babies phenomenon has proven to be wishful thinking.

Edit: Snopes are saying that the Chinese Coronavirus was "spread from" Wuhan, when it clearly originated there. So boo to you, Snopes.

The idea of another Baby Boomer generation genuinely makes me feel ill. I hope this is true.

Mostly what seems to be happening is people figure out they hate their spouse after spending a lot of time with them.

Unless the supply of birth control runs out (and I mean pills/IUDs, not condoms), I don't see how this would increase birth rates. Most people don't look at an upcoming time of possible serious financial hardship and decide that's the time to stop taking their pills/have their IUDs removed.

Maybe the couples end up divorcing, maybe they spend the time fucking like teenagers. But that doesn't necessarily make babies more likely to result.

 

[TurdFondler]

Small business is absolutely destroyed in America and I'd be surprised if even 10% could come back from this if this nonsense continues to August.

It's absolutely the worst time for this. Spring is the time construction and trades get rolling, January through March are typically pretty lean. A lot of companies just finished taking out loans or making purchases for the upcoming season too. The city shut down it's planning department so everything is on hold cos no one can get permits. Now with all the layoffs no one has any fucking money to spend anyway.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

It's plausible, but I'd think they could get supplied by China and Russia. Of course if they're not, it really indicates China is lying like a motherfucker because there's no way China would not take advantage of an easy method of getting oil unless they had to.

How can China and Russia supply them when they need to supply themselves first? And of course China is lying about it.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Jimin Lee on Twitter

“Hundreds of nat’l guard trucks crossing caltrain. Heard it was to help food banks... but kind of a scary sight #coronavirus #bayarea https://t.co/J852GiGosn”

twitter.com

National guard vehicles being moved to assist with outbreak in California.

 

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Iran's numbers worry me. Makes me think there's another more lethal strain out there.

The sanctions America's rulers have imposed don't just block US companies from providing medical supplies to Iran. If you are a Chinese/Russian/whatever company and the Zionists decide that you aided the Iranian people, you can be subject to financial sanctions intended to bankrupt you.

China has provided a certain amount of aid, but you know what would have helped Iran more? If the slave government of America hadn't already been trying to kill every single Iranian through sanctions, preventing the government from imposing travel restrictions immediately after the issue arose in order to maintain good relations with one of the few major world nations not enslaved to Trump's chosen people, that would have been more helpful.

 

[Botchy Galoop]

Out of darkness, into light?

In all seriousness, I don't have an issue with being tested or vaccinated for anything.

My real beef is with the lack of testing for asymptomatic people, such as women in advanced pregnancy, who can bring the virus in to L&D like a Trojan Horse. Basically the OB-Gyn, all the nurses on the floor, the perinatologist and their team, Post Partum and the NICU staff can be exposed to a lot of virus, and pass it on to their patients and newborns. I would feel safer for everybody, if they tested women a month, two weeks, and a week before their due-date, for the safety of the staff and the newborn.

I know that kids (even newborns) are not particularly likely to succumb. But the fact that there is an absence of information on the risks, should not imply that they aren't lurking in the shadows.

Like if a newborn dies of coronavirus, is that the primary cause of death, or is the cause of death neonatal sepsis, complicated by Corona? How is this reported?

Sorry, just concerned.

In my largish county of 200k+, our largest industry is health services. We have 3 large hospitals, one with world class heart surgeons. The reports I am hearing from my RN friends, especially those in the neo-nate sector, they are seeing more C-sections performed on women who are displaying any signs of flu/cold. The thinking is that if the infant does not pass thru the birth canal, they are less exposed to risk of Covid19 infection. This is good for the newborns, less so for the mother, since it requires a longer stay in the hospital for recovery. Wish I could give you better info. When I asked why the mothers are not being tested for WuFlu the common answer seems to be a matter of logistics.
With so many tests being performed here, the labs are overwhelmed, and babies come when they will, not giving a lot of lead time to perform the tests and get back results.