Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Slap47]

Blocking Corona Virus bills to get what you want is bad optics.

You know what the Civil Rights people did during ww2? Their campaign was the "Double V" campaign - they fought and supported the war with some rewards and the promise of award. They didn't blow their load and alienate everybody.

This disease could effectively kill more than ww2 and should be understood in that context.

 

[Cat Menagerie]

Not long, I imagine.

My state hasn't gone into lockdown yet, but there are people (including healthcare professionals) urging the governor to order it, to get ahead of it before it gets worse. Hell, if that bit about corona-chan living for three days max on plastic is true, maybe just a week would be enough to do it?

I don't know. I'm getting anxious thinking of what this will all look like a month from now.

We're in the same boat where I live. Our governor has shown a total lack of character and leadership, but what can one expect from a guy who doesn't vaccinate his kids? I'm being told there are no available ventilators in the hospitals here at this time but I haven't been able to verify that. Wouldn't surprise me, though.

 

[LordofTendons]

White House briefing allegedly in 10 minutes but they're usually late.

 

[Analog Devolved]

How long until martial law is declared in the toilet paper and m.ilk aisles?

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Shouldn't the zoo always have people working, to take care of the animals?

Nah, just let 'em wander and hit the gift shop.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Shops around me have run out of nicotine patches and so has Amazon. Looks like I'm going back to vaping.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

And what do you think about it? Feels eerie, really. Like your government went full 180 degrees in a couple weeks. I wasn't expecting such a brutal lockdown.

There's some saying it's a clever reverse strategy. Rather than slamming in a lockdown like Italy, Japan etc which results in people getting pissed off in relatively short order and breaking it in all sorts of stupid ways, you ratchett up the demand until its the public themselves clamouring for it. This is exactly what has happened in the UK.

This seems to bare out in the polling undertaken in the last couple of weeks, where the Johnson Ministry has been found by a majority to have been doing the right thing by being reasonable and slowly introducing measures in a drip so everyone gets used to it.

It's also obvious what's going to happen when you close everywhere people normally go to hang out. They'll flood those other places not shut and not really follow the reasonable advice the government put out.

Thus you nudge the majority of the public to want harsh control orders and a general lockdown as something they want not something they have to endure.


I have a terrifying terrifying new respect for the Government Behavioural Unit. If the above is the truth they've played the greatest single propaganda victory and sleight of hand since Operation Fortitude North in WW2.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

You know this kinda comes off like "Dirty pleb, listen to your betters".

Except I don't place someone's salary as being a metric of how much they deserve to live.

 

[Radical Cadre]

The Democrats can go fuck off and die. They do not give flying fuck one about the nation or the American people. They care only for their party, They HATE the average American. HATE them. They HATE the idea than ANYONE other than themselves want to do something RIGHT NOW to help millions of working families now without income due to this bullshit known as "sheltering-in-place". $1200 may not be much to some, but to many that's a lot, in a nation where a lot of people cannot even come up with $400 for an emergency without using a credit card. And $2400 for a couple with kids? A godsend until people can get back to work.

Dems - the true party of hatred, hatred of the American people. Fuck the Dems, fully.

The feeling I get from the Democrat leadership in the United States is that they truly believe the caricature of the conniving politician bought and sold by big business and corrupting influences. They believe it and are convinced that all opposition to their "altruistic" ideals are simply a part of this category.

And especially after their loss in 2016 the Democrats decided to go full "if you can't beat them, join them" mode, in some fucked up effort to match the perceived power of the opposition. Except most politicians are in fact decent people trying to do a good job in a thankless, shitty career. The Democrats thought they had to eat the poison apple in order to gain the power to defeat their evil foes but in the end their foes never actually ate the poison apple in the first place... their foes simply have principles.

 

[Rudy Russo]

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[Gustav Schuchardt]

After Boris advised people to shop online it seems like waitrose.com is predictably overloaded and keeling over. There's massive shortages in the supermarkets, threats of fines or arrest for going out and you can't shop online because the websites have crashed. This is starting to feel dystopian. If you run out of something you need at this point it looks like you might not be able to get it.

It's not all that bad for me as I've got food for weeks stored because I ignored the media telling me not to stockpile, but this is going to adversely affect people who did what they were told and didn't. And then there are nightmare scenarios like people who are dependent on drugs like insulin. If the whole country goes into lockdown, some of those people will die and it will not be due to coronavirus but rather the government's reaction to it. Lockdowns are not without downside and no one seems to have made a serious attempt to quantify that downside.

 

[XYZpdq]

Shops around me have run out of nicotine patches and so has Amazon. Looks like I'm going back to vaping.

it's cool because somebody found some study from eighty years ago where vape juice killed viruses so it's worth ten random badly translated piles of shit from modern media

 

[iRON-mAn]

After Boris advised people to shop online it seems like waitrose.com is predictably overloaded and keeling over.

Tescos and Asda are down too. Sainsburys seems to be working though.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Everyone gets a free pony! And a free mansion! And a flying car!

Nope, not everyone. Just heirs to the very wealthy.

FIFY

Lol "bankrupt Wal -Mart."

First, you'd have to cut their corporate welfare. Are the Walton's hurting for cash?

Look, ultimately this is the world we choose.

Good luck!

 

[Gluteman420]

Thus you nudge the majority of the public to want harsh control orders and a general lockdown as something they want not something they have to endure.

I have a terrifying terrifying new respect for the Government Behavioural Unit. If the above is the truth they've played the greatest single propaganda victory and sleight of hand since Operation Fortitude North in WW2.

I mean, it's not exactly a new idea.

Spoiler

 

[RodgerDodger]

Georgia's Governor just dropped a limited Shelter in Place order. Only those who are high risk or medically compromised are mandated to stay home, and restricts access to things such as nursing homes. He closed the bars and nightclubs (but wisely seems to have kept the liquor stores open so long as people maintain a 6' radius.) .

The one interesting thing that he did, that really impressed me, is his executive order has a clear end date of April 6. It isn't an "until rescinded" order. It must be modified or renewed at the 2 week mark.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Not to go all "It's just a flu, bro" but neurological shit is generally a rare complication of viruses. As in... they see that shit with the flu and it was especially a thing during the Spanish Flu. Most people, even most critical people, won't have any of that.

I have never seen a good source on the passing out videos.

It could be, but remember the key difference between a video of someone suddenly collapsing last August versus someone suddenly collapsing in February:

No one would have bothered to share it in August.

Panicked people have great difficulty understanding the most severe and extreme complications are also the most uncommon. It's been shown over and over again bacterium/viruses evolve to be less lethal over time. This was noticed centuries ago with smallpox.

More sustainable and stable jobs for everybody would make lessen the "crisis" we have now.

Sustainable and stable jobs are DNC talking points. One microscopic virus has made everything unsustainable and unstable. No legislation will ever change that.

Except most politicians are in fact decent people trying to do a good job in a thankless, shitty career.

My sweet summer child, you have no idea. They get thanked alright, in offshore accounts and slush funds. That's not counting the ones that get bribes and other illegal goodies. Don't forget the free healthcare, haircuts/shave, pension and other perks they get when they're retired.

 

[JosephStalin]

Just got back from running an errand. Both stores I went to operating normally. Smart and Final had meat, water, and toilet paper, with limits. Home Depot as busy as ever, guys hanging around looking for work - ops normal.

When you see stories like the one from Hanson and this one, someone is thinking about cutting this lockdown stuff short. Going to be many more stories of this type. They understand the real impact of this virus. Unless someone tells me differently, Federal overrules state. Entirely possible that the President lifts all lockdowns or more likely limits lockdowns to only hot spots.

From what I saw a little while ago, who could tell there was a "shelter-in-place"? And things are just going to keep going downhill.

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[Radical Cadre]

My sweet summer child, you have no idea. They get thanked alright, in offshore accounts and slush funds. That's not counting the ones that get bribes and other illegal goodies. Don't forget the free healthcare, haircuts/shave, pension and other perks they get get when they're retired.

My sweet, crusty cynic, I disagree. Most of them are decent.

The bad apples do spoil the bunch. Party leadership is one thing, but the rank and file are mostly okay. And some I assume are terrible people.

 

[QuokkaCaptain]

Georgia's Governor just dropped a limited Shelter in Place order. Only those who are high risk or medically compromised are mandated to stay home, and restricts access to things such as nursing homes. He closed the bars and nightclubs (but wisely seems to have kept the liquor stores open so long as people maintain a 6' radius.) .

The one interesting thing that he did, that really impressed me, is his executive order has a clear end date of April 6. It isn't an "until rescinded" order. It must be modified or renewed at the 2 week mark.

Interesting psychological move: With the end-date in mind, it might keep people a little calmer for the time being.

I wonder how effective it will ultimately be, though: People with compromised health- and maybe this is different from place to place, I don't know- seem to be the ones taking the quarantine/isolation stuff fairly seriously. I know a guy with a transplant organ who isolated almost immediately when things started to get particularly serious at the beginning of last week. From what I've seen it's the healthy/not necessarily at risk people that are going out and doing dumb shit like those people in Florida.