"IF" Big IF... But if... The covid19 is a bioweapon. Giving it that benefit of the doubt.
From a paper in 2017 here, it shows that the Wuhan Lab, under the supervision of Charles Lieber (expert epidemiologist / virologist specialized in nanomachine tech too ) and Yves Lévy made breakthrough in the capabilities of nanomachines to push, modify, alter, rearrange and change some of the nature of cells through micro nanomachines, motors of these nanomachines functionning with spikes of waves, magnétic fields, spikes of ultrasounds too...
This book is a printed edition of the Special Issue "Selected Papers from 2017 International Conference on Micro/Nanomachines" that was published in Micromachines
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And it was in 2017
Now they can make MICRO swimmers the size of CELLS that they can perfectly control for many , many type of work and alterations through cells, i'm no expert, but from what i understand, they are just about able almost, whatever the fuck they want in your body, it looks like from these studies, anything is on the table...
A new type of micromotor—powered by ultrasound and steered by magnets—can move around individual cells and microscopic particles in crowded environments with...
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What are the chances that sometimes... The selectiveness of this "virus" is linked to something very specific, or triggered at whim by just very specific wifi or phone waves ?
I think they are much more advanced in cellular programming than we think and the body, and it's cells, are just seen as a computer code for some very smart and advanced scientists.
Evening news from Poland. Not a particularly great day, with 151 new cases (901 in all) and two more deaths (10 total), after a few days of flattening the curve we've taken a step back onto the exponential. Plus there was a confirmed case in a town where my parents live, which makes me exponentially worried. Hope tomorrow will be better.
I remain cautiously optimistic. We are still quite a bit better off than other countries I'm tracking. The early safety measures we've taken should become noticeable soon. Although we're not doing all that many tests, the number of tests per case detected is pretty high, meaning we're unlikely to be missing a lot... if there were many more cases, they would simply come up in testing. And the death rate remains low at just over 1% (like in South Korea... or the Diamond Princess for that matter); if there was an uncontrollable outbreak, we'd have overwhelmed hospitals and people dropping dead in droves like in Italy, Spain or France. Which they don't. So we're not a lost cause yet.
If you're curious, a good chunk of recent confirmed cases come from three hospitals where most of the personnel was infected. Another source of detections are people returning from abroad. Although borders remain closed, the government is arranging special flights for citizens stranded abroad. That's one hundred thousand people over the course of a week. They're all being immediately placed under quarantine as they come and coronavirus detections among them keep popping up.
The government promises to introduce extensive screening in the near future. I don't know many details yet and I do wonder how many asymptomatic or very mild cases are going to show up. Will keep you informed either way.
Not so long to the end of March but I reckon the whole thing, over the next couple of years, is going to be 3-135million dead worldwide.
Let’s think about numbers.
low estimate using lowest of everything. 7billion people. 33% infected, that’s 2.3 billion infections. I think that’s more than reasonable and I bet it’ll be higher .
so - 0.1% mortality gives 2.31 million? (Did I get a zero wrong?)
0.01% mortality 230,000 dead.
Mid level estimate: 7 billion, 50% infected, 1% dead. 35 million dead
Andromeda strain /Italy everywhere at its worst scenario: unpleasant. Let’s not go there.
The death rate is going to vary by country. If this gets loose properly in any third world hellhole, the death rate is going sky high. Places like Taiwan will have much lower rates.
overall? I think it’s going to be most comparable to 1918 flu, although you can knock off a massive proportion of the deaths that occurred then via secondary bacterial infections because we do have antibiotics these days. A reminder that that flu is thought to have infected 1/3 of the population and killed 3-5% of the infected.
IF the planet gets its arse in gear and locks down absolutely everything, and/or gets a vaccine through faster than any vaccine has been through testing before, those numbers will drop.
The lowest fatality rate of tested cases so far is south korea, which has a 1.23% fatality rate, and they've been doing more testing and isolation per capita then all of europe and the US combined. To get south korea down to a 0.1% fatality rate we would have to assume that, somehow, over 100K cases of cornavirus had slipped through the testing cracks and were not self reporting to the government.
If that's true, then that would point to the current infection rate in most other places being SKY HIGH compared to official numbers, if south korean testing managed to miss that many. The more terrifying number is if the south koreans are getting accurate numbers from widespread testing. If the south korean death rate is correct, then a 33% global infection rate would result in 28,290,000 deaths.
I think your mid level estimate is closer to what the true death toll will be, but with 43ish million dead instead of 35 million.
The issue is there is only so much you can do to accelerate the production of a vaccine, and rushing it further tends to set progress back with stupid mistakes. And in the meantime, they wont be able to lock the whole planet down for an entire year. If they did manage to do so, the death rate from total economic collapse would dwarf the coronavirus' death rate.
The real promise of a Conservative Supreme Court is the potential to cut back on omnibus laws that affect every state and jurisdiction at the expense of local experiments, but that's failing. Roberts is more concerned with public perception than principles.
PC Culture is so out of whack it literally threatens to destroy the country via these stupid riders being attached to the bailout package. Completely serious when I say Democrats scare me more than the virus right now. Your health and the economy can come back, but Death Cults with Power will see their agenda fulfilled.
Disagree about ur federal point. Having uniform laws and standards is much more important imo then having what you call local experiments. Remember disregarding fed rules is how we ended up with sanctuary cities.
I will say that while I'm not scared of a dem being elected cus 99 percent of the party are downies but I will say if one of the current special interest dems get elected I pray we have a strong oppositional congress to wall em or were fucked.
Laura Ingraham had a doctor from New York's Lenox Hill hospital on with her last night who explained that they are already using Hydroxychloroquine to treat acute coronavirus patients and are seeing
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More good news about plaquenil / hydroxichloroquine :
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The Chinese experts recommended he be treated with the antimalarial medicine chloroquine and the HIV drug Kaletra — which is a combination of lopinavir and ritonavir. (for that specific patient's case)
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Breakthrough: Chloroquine phosphate shows efficacy in COVID-19 associated pneumonia
According to a letter published in BioScience Trends, Chloroquine has shown apparent efficacy in the treatment of COVID-19 associated pneumonia in clinical studies.
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Reports on clinical trials (in France)
Report from the clinical trial. Chart on last page (p. 24). Tables and Charts (p.19-24)
A month ago, I frantically emailed Senator Blumenthal, Dr. Redfield, and Secretary Azar, demanding to know if there were plans in place to set up negative-pressure tents, ventilators, oxygen concentrators, and other necessary gear to deal with the inevitable surge of cases.
Now, a month later, the Army Corps of Engineers is planning to convert hotels in New York into hospitals with negative-pressure rooms:
Three weeks ago, I told my friends and family that, by the 22nd of March, National Guard units in my state would be activated.
Trump announced this on exactly the 22nd of March:
The state governors will retain command of the National Guard, but the Federal Emergency Management Agency will cover all costs of the missions to respond to the virus outbreak, President Trump said during a White House press briefing.
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We are running out of time. This partisan bullshit must stop. Pelosi must fuck off. And when I say she must fuck off, I mean someone needs to give her a coloring book, some crayons, and a napkin for her drool.
Nigel gives a very Prime Ministerial statement wearing his old geezer shirt from the bottom of the landing of his suburban house. Thank's to Duverger's Law we got a choice between Boris and Corbyn and had no possibility of UKIP or The Brexit Party getting even a single MP. He's so politically isolated he's essentially given up on starting The Reform Party and we'll have a Labour/Conservative duopoly in power for all eternity. Since no one on the right mind would risk a Labour government at the moment and the Lib Dems are almost as screwed as The Brexit Party that in practice means whoever is Conservative party leader is PM and all we can do is hope they don't fuck up as May, Cameron, and Major did.
That was me, and I was being a bit facetious. Mind you it did strike me that when you see videos of Chinese stormtroopers disinfecting the air in Wuhan the mist they spray looks like vape fumes. I looked it up though and I think they're probably using dilute bleach given they add what looks a half full five-liter container to a truck full of water. Put in those terms you really have to wonder if this process has been properly thought out.
They never mention whether these people are overweight when mentioning "underlying health problems". If I had to guess, guy was a patrol cop who spent much of his day in his car. Cardio health can be really hard to maintain when you are stuck in a car all day eating fast food for lunch.
Of course its also possible this guy was just really unlucky. RIP
Big cities like Detroit have dedicated dispatchers and call takers. Only smaller departments put cops "on the desk" or "on radio" for punishment or because they cant be on the road pending some investigation.
911 dispatchers have it worse then patrol cops when it comes to health. Its highly stressful and highly sedentary. 8,12,16 hour days sitting still and living on nothing but junkfood and caffeine. And since it's Detroit the dispatch center is probably some rundown shithole full of mold and roaches.
The issue is there is only so much you can do to accelerate the production of a vaccine, and rushing it further tends to set progress back with stupid mistakes. And in the meantime, they wont be able to lock the whole planet down for an entire year. If they did manage to do so, the death rate from total economic collapse would dwarf the coronavirus' death rate.
I don't know why people are worrying about deaths from despair suffocations, the economy has collapsed so much so fast that that is going to happen regardless. no one's going to hire until this disease is completely clear and over.
“Banner Health in Arizona says a man has died and a woman is seriously ill after taking chloroquine phosphate, in the form of fish tank cleaner, in an attempt to self-medicate against coronavirus. The pharmaceutical drug version has not been approved to treat coronavirus.”
I don't know why people are worrying about deaths from despair suffocations, the economy has collapsed so much so fast that that is going to happen regardless. no one's going to hire until this disease is completely clear and over.
No, there is a difference between causing an economic recession, an economic depression, and an economic collapse, with wildly different effects.
Closing everything for a month is going to cause a recession, likely not worse then 2008.
Closing for 2-3 months is going to cause a depression,t he longer were closed, the worse it will get.
Closing for a year+ until a vaccine is ready will cause total economic collapse. Failure of major chain stores, supply lines, ece.
The last time that truly happened was the bronze age collapse, when the systems became so complicated that the shocks the system took after crop failures and mass migration collapsed systems like domios one after another. The total economic collapse and total political collapse that followed the bronze age ending obliterated civilizations. The systems of a modern day economy and society cannot hole up for a year on end without total collapse, but they CAN weather a month. Yes, some businesses will fail, but the shock wont be bad enough to trigger collapse.
Places, right now, are hiring to weather the storm. Saying "nobody will hire until the disease passes" is exceptional. Businesses hired throughout the spanish flu pandemic. They will stop hiring if they have to go months without any sort of income though, and dont count on any government aid bill providing enough income or being soon enough to prevent that.
Night news roundup. Valencia also buys PPE from china. Note that it's always the right wingers buying shit... At least this time we know they just paid money.
Sanchez meanwhile just called NATO for help. And I gotta say. At least the right wing's getting something out of selling their dignity. The left over here's whoring itself for nothing.
Finally. Sanchez claims the situation in madrid is specially bad and he's calling the autonomies less affected for aid. At least this time he bothered asking before fucking us over I guess. We're already rounding up as much as we can spare, and "can spare" in this case involves a lot of shit we'd normally consider essential, specially masks, honestly if that outbreak does come we're gonna be understocked. But we were understocked with the past 2 so I guess it'll be OK. It's not the lack of material that pissed people off last time, it's how they took it and what they called us. Talking with higher ups they don't know much but it does seem that if shit keeps going this way in madrid it's gonna get ugly, some are preparing to send a lot of stuff to them. Some have started wondering if when madrid is healthy they'll repay us when we get our outbreaks. Because we can't live without their industry, but they can live without us. Andalusians don't bother asking that though. We know damn well we're expendable.
Other than that, we got PYMES donating more and more stuff at accelerated rates and now even multiple big businesses have followed the catalonian's example. It's almost as if unnoficially spain's gone into war economy on its own. Which is really heartwarming.
So, I already posted what might be coming on a prior post, long story short we might have an outbreak in puerta del mar, and we already got a lotta new people due to 2 prior ones.
Morale's still high enough than we've been telling the ones that can to haul supplies to the trucks for madrid and make jokes about it. But jokes are getting a bit bitter as some ask what may be coming.
I guess if I had to explain it. Let me put it metaphorically. As I told you with quarantine we're all becoming writers due to boredom so let me write my story.
Imagine you're on a spanish first class during the age of sail. But, you're on a fog bank. Now, this is a huge ship with a ton of cannons, it was designed to be able to outgun entire sodding enemy fleets.
during the age of sail, every country had its own way of designing ships. I recommend the 1d4chan article on "black seas" for starters as that game worried about representing this well. ( https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Black_Seas )
The french liked mobile ships with long range guns, as they spent most of their time trying to stay away of enemy guns (inkeeping with their nature...) The brits had the best damned admirals and training so they could afford to specialize their ships more than most... Spain just did BIG.
Spanish ships seemed to basically follow the example of the pike squares. Which is to say more=better. Our galeons were built as big as they could be and had way more fucking cannons than ANYONE, no matter how crazy would EVER consider advisable. The Santisima Trinidad was THE most heavily gunned ship of the age of sail, it became so heavy that it had to be relegated to defending Cadiz's bay as it was so slow it couldn't even sail very far. And far from taking this as a lesson the shipbuilders just took this as a chance to reduce it's supplies and keep adding cannons in what can only be described as "hey we've long since past the line where this is not OK anymore but let's just keep going and see what happens", this continued until it was captured by the brits in trafalgar. And it seems the brits, as always, had no sense of humor, as they promptly disposed of it. Breaking Cadiz's most prized toy.
Point is. First rates were a fleet's biggest ship. And spanish first rates weren't even really ships. They were forts with sails stuck to them. Sure they moved at a snails pace and due to weight dealt really poorly with storms, but anything not spanish which entered their firing range was either stupid enough to deserve what was coming their way (or british enough to manage to survive it and turn the battle around... which we're totally still incredibly salty about btw!)
But you've just recovered from 2 skirmishes. And you've had to haul your supplies to aid your compatriots. Compatriots which right now are far away, and more battered than you. So you have no idea if reinforcements can be expected or if they even come if they'll do it in time. And suddenly... Your current sentinel spots something in the fog.
It could be an enemy ship. It could be multiple. Maybe they're already fleeing after seeing your massive fucking boat. Maybe they're about to rain lead for you. Now... again. Puerta del Mar is a good ship. It's old. It's been through much. But precisely because of that you know how much it can take, and it's been refurbished with the best damned gear your region could afford. I mean, the crown's got better gear but... You can take on practically anything the enemy has in store for you. At least you could if you were on tip top shape. But... can you do it without losses? So far you only got a few wounded but, if this IS a skirmish if you ARE getting ambushed... When those cannon balls start flying it might not be possible to save everyone. Specially now you're lacking gear.
That's the point. Puerta del Mar is a damned good hospital. It's been upgraded and rebuilt a million times but it was made to specifications so as to heal ALL OF CADIZ in case of an event like napoleon. We know it can take this and more. But man... As I always keep telling you. Some are beyond saving before they come. And with the bureaucratic nightmare that has been the old folks homes we don't know if we'll get new people hired fast enough if our personnel gets quarantined.
I hope it's nothing but I can't help but feel a bit on edge.
Finally. I will do a meme recap later tonight I hope. Most worthwhile memes (which aren't puns that can't be translated or reference that'd need even more backstoty that what my longwinded ass considers OK.) Are long as fuck, so I'mma have to translate some war stories over here. But the side destruction makes it worth it. On the meantime, have one whose only translation is "after the quarantine"
Ok, again i'm no expert but, IF and IF , with still that benefit of the doubt in mind covid19 is made out in part with nanomachines, i think i understand why hidroxychloroquine is effective against the different polymers used to create them, as they are made of silice / glass for resonance and a part of them acting just as the silicon of cpu for the "logic" part, and a plastic surrounding...
Characteristics of chloroquine binding to glass and plastic.
It just mechanically / electronically fucks them up by some kind of oxydation and "clogging" / obstruction and partial "melting" i should say, and "fills" by binding to them. It's a little bit figurative but like throwing holy water on a vampire.
It's just my fucking coocoo theory okay. But it's still interesting, to me.
No worries. We lost a lot of videos and articles from them not being archived and only realized it when we were updating the github with the highlights.
Flights are finally starting to slow down. day is getting pretty slow.
I have been hearing rumors that they might be cutting hours for us part timers, so that worries me a bit.
Not so long to the end of March but I reckon the whole thing, over the next couple of years, is going to be 3-135million dead worldwide.
Let’s think about numbers.
low estimate using lowest of everything. 7billion people. 33% infected, that’s 2.3 billion infections. I think that’s more than reasonable and I bet it’ll be higher .
so - 0.1% mortality gives 2.31 million? (Did I get a zero wrong?)
0.01% mortality 230,000 dead.
Mid level estimate: 7 billion, 50% infected, 1% dead. 35 million dead
Andromeda strain /Italy everywhere at its worst scenario: unpleasant. Let’s not go there.
The death rate is going to vary by country. If this gets loose properly in any third world hellhole, the death rate is going sky high. Places like Taiwan will have much lower rates.
overall? I think it’s going to be most comparable to 1918 flu, although you can knock off a massive proportion of the deaths that occurred then via secondary bacterial infections because we do have antibiotics these days. A reminder that that flu is thought to have infected 1/3 of the population and killed 3-5% of the infected.
IF the planet gets its arse in gear and locks down absolutely everything, and/or gets a vaccine through faster than any vaccine has been through testing before, those numbers will drop.
Just out of curiosity how would they speed that up? I dont think it's wise too because muh long term outcomes but somehow I can see places weighing the risk of total economic collapse vs. Possible long term vaccine issues and rolling out a vaccine if the vaccine shows promise. It's already killing people.
I recall you stating that the previous SARS vaccine was abandoned because the tests resulted in more death as it kicked the immune system into overdrive was that in animals? Or humans?
In general to thread; They already injected that woman with the test vaccine, have we seen any followup? What's the process for it? Has she been exposed to see what happens?
No worries. We lost a lot of videos and articles from them not being archived and only realized it when we were updating the github with the highlights.
Ok, again i'm no expert but, IF and IF , with still that benefit of the doubt in mind covid19 is made out in part with nanomachines, i think i understand why hidroxychloroquine is effective against the different polymers used to create them, as they are made of silice / glass for resonance and a part of them acting just as the silicon of cpu for the "logic" part, and a plastic surrounding...
Characteristics of chloroquine binding to glass and plastic.
Occam's razer. You think the chinese, who eat bats and constantly fuck up containment of viruses, managed to engineer a biovirus? Just because it can be done in a lab does not mean it can be done in the real world. After all, supercapacitors, large scale quantum computing, and fucking teleportation are possible in lab settings. Silver can kill AIDS in a lab setting. And still falls to the fact that no government would be exceptional enough to release such a contaigon on their OWN PEOPLE. Better yet, if it WAS a nanomachinevirus, dont you think the chinese would have made it MILD in their own country after the world stopped paying attention to them? Taking over the world with an evil virus doesnt work if you wipe out your own manufacturing base in the process. And why would they let the japanese and korreans off so easily?
And the US is capable of detecting this stuff too. China isnt the only country with such advanced technology. IF the US was able to see nanomachines controlled by freaking wifi in early test samples, do you really think they would have sat on it for months, or would they have nuked china out of spite?
Not so long to the end of March but I reckon the whole thing, over the next couple of years, is going to be 3-135million dead worldwide.
Let’s think about numbers.
low estimate using lowest of everything. 7billion people. 33% infected, that’s 2.3 billion infections. I think that’s more than reasonable and I bet it’ll be higher .
so - 0.1% mortality gives 2.31 million? (Did I get a zero wrong?)
0.01% mortality 230,000 dead.
Mid level estimate: 7 billion, 50% infected, 1% dead. 35 million dead
Andromeda strain /Italy everywhere at its worst scenario: unpleasant. Let’s not go there.
The death rate is going to vary by country. If this gets loose properly in any third world hellhole, the death rate is going sky high. Places like Taiwan will have much lower rates.
overall? I think it’s going to be most comparable to 1918 flu, although you can knock off a massive proportion of the deaths that occurred then via secondary bacterial infections because we do have antibiotics these days. A reminder that that flu is thought to have infected 1/3 of the population and killed 3-5% of the infected.
IF the planet gets its arse in gear and locks down absolutely everything, and/or gets a vaccine through faster than any vaccine has been through testing before, those numbers will drop.
you know, people keep talking about "shithole third world countries" but the truth is they tend to have much younger, more resilient populations, because shit happens before anyone gets too old, and also on average very sparse populations that rarely leave their own village or town. We're seeing now the freedom loving first world is getting fuuuucked because we enjoy travelling, partying, and no one listens to the government when it comes to quarantines because were so used to the good life.
Anyone want to guess how many are actually infected in Russia? Am sure they are only reporting a fraction of what they have. The Russian medical system overall isn't that great, unless you have money. Suspect the Russian medical system could be swamped quickly, at least in the big cities. And by the same token, there are likely to be settlements where no cases occur. Russia is a BIG country, with a population less than half the size of ours (about 147 million as of 1 January 2020), and about 10% of China's.
it's going to be really interesting to retroactively go through the data to see which groups were hit hardest and more precise reasons/conjectures/studies as to why. some people have pointed out that southern euros are very touchy-feely (hugs, kissing on cheek, etc) which is why infection may have been so high compared to japan and south korea. but i seriously wonder to what extent genetics (pre-existing conditions aside) play a factor in mortality in this, as speculated throughout this thread and other places.
We can speculate, but from what it appears though, this virus does not seem to be "genocidal."
It seems to enjoy drowning people to death who have a short but significant list of preexisting health conditions.
From what I am reading, too, it also favors folks, and the relatives living with folks, who crave social interaction and drive around town on a mad hunt for asswipe.
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you failed to archive a video about the importance of archiving everything about WuFlu because China is censoring everything!
