Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[eternal dog mongler]

I think they are much more advanced in cellular programming than we think and the body, and it's cells, are just seen as a computer code for some very smart and advanced scientists.

lol insane doomerposting

Did you miss CRISPR?

 

[HonsPonzud]

What if it came from moon nazis? What if it was created by Best Korea to establish world dominance? What if Big Pharma created it with the help of the Illuminati to establish Trump's Chosen Ones to elevated world leader status? It's a coo-coo theory for a reason, its some insane Q-anon shit.

Hydroxychloroquine works by making cells take in significantly more zinc then normal. Zinc inhibit's a virus's ability to reproduce. This significantly slow down the rate of infection and gives the body time to kill the virus. Viruses work by overwhelming the body's immune system and reproducing millions of copies to infect neighboring cells, Hydroxychloroquine stops that dead in its tracks for a short while. We know exactly why it works already, without involving micro machines.

And again, if these machines were present, someone else would have found them. Eyes have been on coronavirus samples for months, and you can bet a bundle the US government, and many others, were already looking for this exact shit when it started spreading like wildfire. And china wouldnt just let japan and south korea off the hook while punishing the west, italy especially. That doesnt make ANY sense.

Aaaaah i kind of have to disagree Chinese on a few points, let's say japan and Taiwan but you are right, they wouldn't want countries like Italy their best "ally" and south korea going to shit, and not theirs either, only if it has been released by accident / unnoticced from their lab, by selling tests specimens and whatnot.

All i'm saying is, hydroxychloroquine might be able to clog and fuck nanomachines from some of it's side binding / oxydation properties on silicons.

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But i heard Ivan Shatov's arguments about not being nowhere near that field of expertise, let me press a little bit (X) for reasonable doubt that, they were already developing nanomachines doing some complex work already in 1999 and in 2017 doing breakthrough in Micro nanomachines able to travel in 3D in the cells, it's in the pages i posted earlier, they are able to make them travel and work specifically on what they want with a wide range of waves / peaks, it uses very very minimal energy from waves + get instructions thousand of times per seconds and can listen all the time, get activated anytime it's needed if they don't degrade naturally (over a long, long time tho) in the blood by natural acidification of the blood. They could already give them directions / orientations in 3d volume, not only 2D volumes back in 2017, so who the fuck knows where they are now in the development of these ? Especially in a country with as much secrecy as China on everything ? Benefiting of the most intelligent researchers from MIT / harvard ?

I don't know, i tend to think it is possible because, we already are lagging , as the general public, way behind what has been already discovered and weaponized all the time, against us. (just like the internet was a millitary thing before it was wide spread for domestic utilization)

And maybe this shit that is way more advanced than what we can grasp, is going to be wide spread at some point for domestic use or all kind of enhancements / transhumanism.

well i know fuck me i went full conspiratard, yeah. But the possibilities are there.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Just bring them to the US and create new population centers here. WHATS THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPUHN

Honestly, we could make artificial habitats in many areas with little to no risk to surrounding ecosystem if well planned and well maintained. I'd say we should do it for extreme risk of extinction cases which are obviously not gonna be safe in their original ecosystem due to being in third world shitholes. Zoos do it all the time for fucks sake.

I'd really like to see a Venn diagram, that includes circles "fat fuck" and "does cardio"
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You'd be surprised how many really fat people I've seen on the gym. Seems at least over here more and more obese (specially men) are realizing it's an issue. Dunno outside of spain though.

Do you have a link for the "unexpected second outbreak"?

I saw it on passing on TV while I excercized but here's some links mentioning it from the past days:

China endurece cuarentena por una segunda oleada del Covid-19 | Soy502

Mientras que en Guatemala se impulsan acciones para prevenir que más personas resulten positivas con coronavirus, China se prepara para una segunda oleada de casos.De acuerdo con Forbes, por primera vez en en Huberi no se ha registrado ningún contagio

soy502.com

¡Nuevos casos en China! Intensifican cuarentena por segunda oleada de Covid-19

China notifica nuevos casos de COVID-19, razón por la cual las autoridades decidieron intensificar la cuarentena.

www.deguate.com

Fugg. What I hoped was a bad cold is getting worse - im coughing more regularly and my chest hurts and I've lost my sense of smell

Fucking Chinese aids

Consider going to the hospital if it seems severe.
Shortness of breath and heart issues are the most worrying symptoms.

taleb pointed this out, something many of us are suspicious about with the cases in italy compared to other places:

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it's going to be really interesting to retroactively go through the data to see which groups were hit hardest and more precise reasons/conjectures/studies as to why. some people have pointed out that southern euros are very touchy-feely (hugs, kissing on cheek, etc) which is why infection may have been so high compared to japan and south korea. but i seriously wonder to what extent genetics (pre-existing conditions aside) play a factor in mortality in this, as speculated throughout this thread and other places.

That's just because Italy was the second infected after china and the one that's infected the US. Since Italian migrants are the ones bringing this shit home they're the first to be affected, nothing to do with race like that.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Very interesting article. Tucker Carlson actually had to go to Mar-a-lago in person, risking infection himself, to get Trump to pay attention to the danger of the coronavirus.

His colleagues at Fox News called coronavirus a 'hoax' and 'scam.' Why Tucker Carlson saw it differently

Controversial Fox News host Tucker Carlson never called the virus outbreak a hoax and now his colleagues know why.

www.latimes.com

Trump is aware of the danger of the corona virus. His issue, is that he does not want business to tank, so he is taking a gamble with people's lives. He has full time access to the advice of physicians, specialists, policy makers, 24/7. It is a cost/benefit, and a risk:benefit analysis for him.

Here is an archived version of the page you posted.

How Fox News host Tucker Carlson sounded the alarm on COVID-19 - Los …

archived 21 Mar 2020 22:50:33 UTC

archive.li

 

[HonsPonzud]

lol insane doomerposting

Did you miss CRISPR?

Nah. But i concede that i went far, it's the Wuhan Coronavirus megathread tho, i'm trying to talk about the virus. Doctor Who has been shit this season, so i need my dose of sci fi as i'm FUCKING QUARANTINED like everyone else, i need distraction, youtube bores me now.

 

[Loris Yeltsin]

lol

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[⠠⠠⠅⠑⠋⠋⠁⠇⠎ ⠠⠠⠊⠎ ⠠⠠⠁ ⠠⠠⠋⠁⠛]

Trump is aware of the danger of the corona virus.

Are you aware of the concepts of 'past' and 'future', or do you solely live in the 'present'? I mean, we're all aware that China informed the US government about the coronavirus on January 3, and continued to keep everyone updated as knowledge developed. It still took Carlson to make Trump take it marginally seriously months later.

 

[Without A Gout]

lol

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TWO WEEKS LATER - "I wonder why all the kids and faculty are sick? Must be the will of God."

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

MedCram update video. This guy seems like he knows what he's talking about and I like the way he analyzes problems.

Youtube link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqKwAIIy-Mo

Local mirror

too video;didn't watch: He mentions a very interesting observation that the BCG vaccine against TB also protects against other completely unrelated infections because of the way the innate and specific immune systems interact. There might be case for giving healthcare workers and vulnerable (sick and or old) people that to reduce the risk of them being infected.

Article

Can a century-old TB vaccine steel the immune system against the new coronavirus?

Scientists launch trial of bacillus Calmette-Guérin, a vaccine made of living bacteria, to protect health care workers at risk of COVID-19 infection

www.sciencemag.org

Archvive

Can a century-old TB vaccine steel the immune system against the new …

archived 24 Mar 2020 22:36:06 UTC

archive.vn

Wayback machine is not working, probably due to the Chinese Communist Party, the US Democratic Party or Matt Hancock all of which I abhor.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I'm not sure but I believe there was something debunking the blood-type thing as being the asian blood-type astrology shit gussied up with dubious medical reasoning?

otherwise known as Traditional Chinese Medicine aka TCM. The blood type thing was pure nonsense. Take it as an example that in the age of the internet completely stupid fake info will never ever die.

 

[CWCchange]

Very interesting article. Tucker Carlson actually had to go to Mar-a-lago in person, risking infection himself, to get Trump to pay attention to the danger of the coronavirus.

His colleagues at Fox News called coronavirus a 'hoax' and 'scam.' Why Tucker Carlson saw it differently

Controversial Fox News host Tucker Carlson never called the virus outbreak a hoax and now his colleagues know why.

www.latimes.com

Of course, TDS from the same fucktards who turn their nose when it comes to the opioid epidemic, and called him wanting wall money at government budget time a "Seinfeld Shutdown." Yet, when a bipartisan bill in the middle of an emergency is derailed because the California shitlib queen comes around wanting solar panels on airplanes and mass amnesty for brown people, then it's an "opportunity."

 

[It's HK-47]

Very interesting article. Tucker Carlson actually had to go to Mar-a-lago in person, risking infection himself, to get Trump to pay attention to the danger of the coronavirus.

His colleagues at Fox News called coronavirus a 'hoax' and 'scam.' Why Tucker Carlson saw it differently

Controversial Fox News host Tucker Carlson never called the virus outbreak a hoax and now his colleagues know why.

www.latimes.com

Several weeks after he'd already shut down travel to-and-from China and assembled an entire response team to the outbreak that was growing in China, yes. I've heard this one repeated multiple times, but at the end of the day Tucker Carlson, like most journalists, is just very good at sucking his own dick. The notion that some FOX journalist who made most of his money by slap-fighting with mentally disabled people in interviews is more informed than the President of the United States is just ridiculous.

 

[No. 7 cat]

Ann Barnhardt notes that most of the Italian deaths can be characterised as having one or more co-mortalities (archived: https://archive.li/WKJ69) with a record total of close to 700 deaths only had twelve who died of COV19 alone. Now she is often derided by other Catholics as cranky, and she is sort of IRS hating tax exile libertarian sort, but people dying with COV19 are not necessarily dying of COV19. It is a valid and factual point, I think.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

lol

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1- Campuses are one of the best places to locate campaign hospitals in case of out of control outbreaks, which can't be done if they're full. Meaning he's either just straight up thinking of denying aid if called upon during an emergency or he's just planning on dealing with the logistical nigjtmare it would be to empty the campus and build the hospital simultaneously.

TWO WEEKS LATER - "I wonder why all the kids and faculty are sick? Must be the will of God."

2-also that.

3-students have friends and family members. A lot of which are in risk groups.

 

[Not Really Here]

Very interesting article. Tucker Carlson actually had to go to Mar-a-lago in person, risking infection himself, to get Trump to pay attention to the danger of the coronavirus.

His colleagues at Fox News called coronavirus a 'hoax' and 'scam.' Why Tucker Carlson saw it differently

Controversial Fox News host Tucker Carlson never called the virus outbreak a hoax and now his colleagues know why.

www.latimes.com

Trump was questioned about it Jan. 22 and he was already tracking it, sorry, Tucker didn't need to tell him to "take it seriously" AT THE END OF MARCH.
Shockingly stupid take.
Also here's the archive- https://archive.li/O7zHb

 

[#zzz]

His issue, is that he does not want business to tank, so he is taking a gamble with people's lives. He has full time access to the advice of physicians, specialists, policy makers, 24/7. It is a cost/benefit, and a risk:benefit analysis for him.

No one wants business to tank. It's either people die from Chinaflu, or people die from economic collapse. You are basically playing a balancing game trying to minimize both.

 

[DNA_JACKED]

Ann Barnhardt notes that most of the Italian deaths can be characterised as having one or more co-mortalities with a record total of close to 700 deaths only had twelve who died of COV19 alone. Now she is often derided by other Catholics as cranky, and she is sort of IRS hating tax exile libertarian sort, but people dying with COV19 are not necessarily dying of COV19. It is a valid and factual point, I think.

We know that co morbities are present in the vast majority of cases. The problem is that diabetes was present in 75% of deaths, obesity in 35.5%, heart disease in 35%. Guess what western countries are FULL of, especially in older generations?

No one wants business to tank. It's either people die from Chinaflu, or people die from economic collapse. You are basically playing a balancing game trying to minimize both.

Yeah, the idea that ONLY DRUMPF is playing a risk:reward balance is full on exceptional. Every medical expert and political leader is doing that, because shutting down the whole country for a year is simply not possible, even doing it for mroe then a few weeks is REALLY risky territory for the government. No people in any country, not even china, are going to sit at home for 3 months and get evicted/starve because papa government told them too. They are going to go work when the bills come due, businesses are going to open when funds run low, and what exactly is the government going to do, arrest all citizens and close all businesses?

Government runs on a social contract, it has power because citizens give it power. A 12 month quarantine is a good way to lose that power. That's why the governments is doing a month of quarantine NOW, to try and flatten the curve without obliterating the economy.

 

[AmpleApricots]

I'm interjecting for a moment to remind everyone to always call this the chinese flu or the wuhan flu in conversations both irl and online, any combination of words as long as it makes a clear connection to country of origin. They're trying to bury the fact that it was theirs very hard and the toadies here are lapping it up. Don't let people ever forget it.

 

[HonsPonzud]

No one wants business to tank. It's either people die from Chinaflu, or people die from economic collapse. You are basically playing a balancing game trying to minimize both.

If the fucking virus dies on hidryxoyChloroquine this effectively, why don't we just disinfect / spray the whole country in diluted form, (against walls, park benches, door knobs, just everything that everyone has touched) using Chloroquined water to eradicate that shit ? Chloroquine is very very cheap it should be do able, Just fucking clean all the streets as everyone is quarantined at home anyway, or send millitary / sanitizing personal spraying that shit, or maybe not spraying but just using it as a cleaning agent on surfaces, spray, wipe, start testing everybody fast and give positive people to covid19, hydroxychloroquine, i don't know, maybe.... problem fucking solved at a low cost ?

 

[Godzilla1984]

240 Pages behind. /sigh

Personal Happenings
My local grocery store has Corona Extra beer front and center in the liquor section.
I chuckle every time I walk by it.

Northern Ontario Happenings
COVID-19 cases in northeastern Ontario reaches seven. Archive.
Sudbury's COVID-19 count now at four; latest victim had travelled overseas. Archive.
4th COVID-19 case confirmed for Timmins area. Archive.
Sudbury business and COVID-19: Mining innovator closes offices, but staff to work at home. Archive.
North Bay-area plastic parts maker ready to step into the COVID-19 fight. Archive.

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AngloGold to suspend South Africa operations. Archive.
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Gold price rockets more than $100 to seven-year high. Archive.

BAD GEOLOGY JOKE FOR THE DAY ⛰⛏
Q: Did you know that geologists are athletic?
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Edit: Added article.