Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Shadfan666xxx000]

I'm looking forwards to seeing them start testing Americans who aren't showing symptoms. A lot of us have been really weirdly sick over the last three months and we're wondering if we've already had it. If we did, maybe we can start going back to work or something.

No, you'll have to essentially charge the emergency room until the end. The one place I know that does Corona testing to the public straight lied to my ass over the phone and even my personal doctor doesn't know where to point a motherfucker except right there and to essentially force a test.

 

[Underestimated Nutria]

I wonder if, after this is done, the government would pay people to get medical degrees. I would sign up for a few years of indentured servitude in exchange for a free ride through nursing school.

Kinda related, but my old GP told me that he did an expedited (3 year) MBBS (a medical degree) because of WW2. I'm not sure what had to be sacrificed, or how they handled a double cohort, or what. This old guy (he was in his late eighties when he saw me) graduated from the University of Birmingham in 1940 IIRC

Now totally unrelated: anyone else love Solzhenitsyn's Cancer Ward? Such a powerful book, and a remarkable man. I found it interesting that in the period portrayed, namely I guess the late forties and early fifties in the USSR, being doctor was considered a female profession; smart men would go into engineering.

 

[Not Really Here]

wrong
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National Center for Health Statistics Mortality Surveillance System

gis.cdc.gov

Ok, here we go again disproving your weak grasp on facts.


CDC Flu numbers are estimates not tests.

How CDC Estimates the Burden of Seasonal Influenza in the U.S. | CDC

Links to key resources on the burden of influenza - CDC

www.cdc.gov

Archive- https://archive.li/x7oV2


Final data for last year are co-mingled.

Stats of the States - Influenza/Pneumonia Mortality

www.cdc.gov

Archive- https://archive.li/KqFly



Even when doctors bitch at the CDC over it.

CDC — Influenza Deaths: Request for Correction (RFC)

US data on influenza deaths are false and misleading. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) acknowledges a difference between flu death and flu associated death yet uses the terms interchangeably. Additionally, there are significant statistical incompatibilities between official...

aspe.hhs.gov

Archive- https://archive.li/T7lv9


When you think you know something @Goronnn be assured you have no idea.

 

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Really? Because you didn’t seem to be aware at all on January 3rd. Let’s see January 3rd’s post history: Denial of the moon landings, complaining about Trump, complaining about being topic banned from the Iran crisis thread, complaining about Trump. Very nice.
Oh how vigilant you and China were for warning the world about the kung flu. How admirable.

It seems you didn’t want to care about China Virus at all until the virus thread was up on Jan 26th, first post of which was.. you dick sucking China. Very cool.

You seem mad. Am I your President? Am I responsible for Trump's primary response to the coronavirus being to attempt to kill as many people as possible in Venezuela, America, and Iran? In the first and third cases because of malice against anyone who stands up to his masters, in the second case because of pure incompetence and slavery to the markets?

 

[DubbleBubble]

wrong
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National Center for Health Statistics Mortality Surveillance System

gis.cdc.gov

that is close to what i want, but i guess theres nothing proper for just "general deaths", population counts that are done more than annually - I guess give it time and you can always use the old number of obituary pages trick

 

[Shield Breaker]

The numbers all factored that in and they're showing what was 'projected' without any measures, with social distancing, and with social distancing + shelter in place. It looks like their numbers are still through the roof even with those taken into account.

But some Hunky promised me Mad Max in two more days.

It's amazing how people cannot understand the gravity of this illness.
There have been 22 year old dying of respiratory distress with no other medical issues, people are dying in droves everyday, funerals are being held through livestream but yet this person is more important..we live in a modern age, fucking voicechat or some shit.
I have medical professional family members (RN's and a ER Doc) and people are dying as young as 19 from this, if they loved or cared about this person they would not wanna risk their health.

Blame the media for crying wolf too often.

Still hasn't passed the house so none of that is happening yet.

Edit: FYI the US House of Representatives was in session for 115 seconds today.
Your government at work.

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I hope they all get it.

Fellow Okie? I can relate to that situation though fast food is also an essential for some reason.

Yep! But those two in particular just struck me as ridiculous. Fast food doesn't surprise me given most Okies are fat fucks.

NOLA is going down fast so I'm afraid it'll be fucked here in a couple weeks. These people are too stubborn and stupid to stay home, especially the boomers.

It's because hood rats can't cook. They will have giant ass tvs and shit but a stove is too expensive.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Coronavirus: 3 new deaths, 138 new COVID-19 cases in L.A. County

Update: Los Angeles County officials reported three additional COVID-19 deaths on Wednesday, bringing the county’s death toll to 13. The county is no longer ...

m.youtube.com

OMG the scale of this is incredible. Cases and deaths seem to be doubling by the day.

United States Coronavirus: 65,047 Cases and 921 Deaths - Worldometer

archived 25 Mar 2020 22:23:49 UTC

archive.li

 

[FatalTater]

Not to be one of Those People, but does it seem to anyone else that the mood of the White House press conference folk has changed? Trump and the doctors at least seem more relaxed, regardless of what they're talking about. Body language, speech style, etc seem to have less underlying tension.

 

[Not Really Here]

that is close to what i want, but i guess theres nothing proper for just "general deaths", population counts that are done more than annually - I guess give it time and you can always use the old number of obituary pages trick

There's no such thing as accurate month by month data as it happens in a country of a third of a billion.

 

[Shield Breaker]

You seem mad. Am I your President? Am I responsible for Trump's primary response to the coronavirus being to attempt to kill as many people as possible in Venezuela, America, and Iran? In the first and third cases because of malice against anyone who stands up to his masters, in the second case because of pure incompetence and slavery to the markets?

Could you try adding something besides your usual Jew sperging?

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Not to be one of Those People, but does it seem to anyone else that the mood of the White House press conference folk has changed? Trump and the doctors at least seem more relaxed, regardless of what they're talking about. Body language, speech style, etc seem to have less underlying tension.

I noticed that too. Hopefully it's a good sign.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Not to be one of Those People, but does it seem to anyone else that the mood of the White House press conference folk has changed? Trump and the doctors at least seem more relaxed, regardless of what they're talking about. Body language, speech style, etc seem to have less underlying tension.

Did the stimulus package bail out Trumps investments?

That might be a reason.

 

[feral cat #6385]

meanwhile in good old england.
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BNO Newsroom on Twitter

“British police to people sunbathing in London on the UK's first day of lockdown: "It's not a holiday" https://t.co/A2iT7KvtH9”

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So is this how your country ends up when every man with balls dies during 2 world wars?

Shit like this give me a whole new picture how the Revolutionary War went.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Politico discusses the possibility this is all an overreaction if you compare deaths from corona to regular influenza

Youtube link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51BcnpsYMcw

Local mirror

UK government report on influenza deaths

Annual flu reports

Public Health England publishes overviews each year of influenza surveillance results from the winter period.

www.gov.uk

Archive
https://web.archive.org/web/2020031...v.uk/government/statistics/annual-flu-reports

PDF he mentions which I also added as an attachment
https://assets.publishing.service.g...tory_viruses_in_the_UK_2018_to_2019-FINAL.pdf

Here's table 7 on page 51



He mentions the figure for 2017/2018 because that was the most recent complete year at the time the report was prepared.

 

[Mr. Manchester]

Did the stimulus package bail out Trumps investments?

That might be a reason.

They haven't passed it yet, but you might not be too far off.

It's such a mess right now that I legitmately wonder if they're all planning on bickering until the wu flu passes so they don't have to spend 2 trillion dollars.

 

[Revo]

Meanwhile in the Land of the Free our Prison population is being put to work to make shit for the law abiding citizens.

Archive :http://archive.li/jH9S3

China to Rerelease 'Avengers' Franchise, 'Avatar' to Boost Reopening Cinemas

I'm pretty sure Wave 2 is incoming sooner than we think.
"[...]approximately 600 to 700 cinemas have reopened[...]"

Disney’s ‘Avengers’ Series, ‘Coco,’ ‘Call of the Wild’ Join China’s Post-Coronavirus Lineup
This one also posts more movies in the lineup, including A Dog's Journey/Life. Not sure how to feel about that last one, I wouldn't be surprised if it gets banned like Animal Farm because it also posts the dog's thoughts throughout the movie unless I confused it with another 'sentient' dog movie.

1. China to Rerelease 'Avengers' Franchise, 'Avatar' to Boost Reopening Cinemas (Exclusive) ( http://archive.li/ZYbZs)
2. Disney’s ‘Avengers’ Series, ‘Coco,’ ‘Call of the Wild’ Join China’s Post-Coronavirus Line-up. (http://archive.li/OcbNt)

London woman dies of suspected Covid-19 after being told she was 'not priority'

Kayla Williams, 36, from Peckham, south London, died a day after calling 999 Coronavirus – all updates

www.theguardian.com

According to hysterical redditors, this woman was left to die by an awful huwhite paramedic because she's black and female. Paragraphs and paragraphs on racism and sexism and then

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Archive of the guardian article :http://archive.li/1ehFd

Some news from PH, the rebels decided to declare a ceasefire.

Philippine Rebels Declare Ceasefire to Heed U.N. Chief's Call

New People’s Army guerrillas have been ordered to stop assaults and shift to a defensive position

time.com

Archive of times article : http://archive.li/KYUl6

Not sure if this was posted yet:

Boy, 17, with coronavirus dies as cases surge in California

Authorities say a 17-year-old boy who tested positive for the coronavirus has died but it's not yet clear whether the virus was to blame

abcnews.go.com

Archive of ABC news article: http://archive.li/wCQky

So... Yet again, Media/Lefty Twitter falling on their fucking faces.

The Govt/Health Minister Matt Hancock asked for 250,000 Volunteers. In 24 hours over 400,000 have signed up instead, and now the NHS is extending the target to 750,000 to try and cope with the demand.

Archive of the guardian : http://archive.li/F9Z3X

Amazon workers at 9 warehouses, including one in California, test positive for coronavirus

Amazon workers at 9 warehouses, including one in California, test positive for coronavirus

Amazon has temporarily closed some sites, but has largely refrained from mass closures.

www.kron4.com

Great now my fucking packages are being delivered slower and now with extra CoronaChan.

Archive of kron4/kronon article: http://archive.li/o69Sj

In a shocking display of response to the needs of real New Zealanders, online liquor sales are still going to be allowed. Too bad for the local liquor stores.. but some of them are still owned by New Zealanders rather than foreigners so I guess horseface Arden will be happy to see those businesses killed off. Now at least 200 identified cases which the government is admitting to, all because horseface deliberately failed to stop carriers coming into the country and didn't quarantine those who did.

Going to do some solo recreational walking later and see how many places have been ramraided so far.

On a positive note, Maori groups are setting up checkpoints in the Far North to do what horseface refused to.

Coronavirus: Tourists turned away at Far North checkpoints

At least three groups of travellers turned back by volunteers trying to stop spread of coronavirus.

www.stuff.co.nz

Of course, if white country folks did the same the pigs would be all over them.

Archive of stuff article: http://archive.li/Y7dUy

Here's a slideshow of medical workers at a hospital in New Jersey.

Slideshow: Healthcare Workers on the Front Lines of COVID-19

Hospital photographer captures portraits of healthcare workers in New Jersey's outbreak epicenter

www.medpagetoday.com

Worth a look. Seems to refute a lot of criticism of what the USA's been doing re the ChiCom Flu.

US was more prepared for pandemic than any other country, Johns Hopkins study found

The United States was ranked the best-prepared country in the world to handle a pandemic in late 2019 by the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI) and the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security (JHU) -- an assessment seemingly at odds with claims by top Democrats that the Trump administration left...

www.foxnews.com

List of 74 actions taken by President Trump so far to deal with the virus and bolster the economy.

List: 74 actions taken by Trump to fight virus and bolster economy

In less than a week, the Trump administration has greatly expanded the actions it's taken to fight the coronavirus and boost the economy, according to its latest tally of “response efforts.”

www.washingtonexaminer.com

1.Archive of medpagetoday article: http://archive.li/K64lH
2.archive of fox news article :http://archive.li/QGaUz
3.archive of Washingtonexaminer article:

List: 74 actions taken by Trump to fight virus and bolster economy

archived 24 Mar 2020 03:57:58 UTC

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Remember, archive everything.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It is ok hun. Calm down. Don't take this so hard. From what you have shared here, you have been thru far worse, and you survived it.

Is Amazon Fresh swamped in your area?

Pet a cat. Or two. Watch them play. That helps me.

Deliveries are backed up for days from most vendors but I notice the smaller and ethnic stores haven't been cleaned out. Wearing cold weather gear (easy to wipe down) makes me feel naked without a rifle.

 

[DNA_JACKED]

Just a random non-specialized opinion for what it is worth ....

From what I have read here and there, influenza viruses, for example, have been documented since ancient times. There are mentions of waves of illnesses that somewhat resemble the flu.

We are born with the accumulation of immunities against crap that is in the human environment, and has been since forever, because our mother's passed their immunities onto their daughters and sons. So babies are NOT born with an immunological blank structure. They build their own immunities, based on what they inherit through the umbilical cord.

For example, when you bring home a newborn, and open the refrigerator near by, there is a massive "poof" of all kinds of molds and bacteria in there. Unless there is some serious issue there, baby should not die in 5 hours from being overgrown with bacteria and mold spores.

So being that this corona virus is so new, we don't have immunities against an entire family of viruses, over long periods of time, that we do against influenza or rhinoviruses, etc.

So I am a bit skeptical about some projected "herd immunity." It is also not the chickenpox, where kids get exposed to it and they are (supposedly) immune thereafter. I think that old-timers and republicans are hoping for a chicken-pox-.like immunity so that life can go on as usual and they won't die, but I am not going to hold my breath ... as long as I am still breathing, of course.

Basically no matter who you are, life is pretty much going to suck in some way, from now on. Brace yourself.

We will cope though. Life will continue, but unless there is some sort of broad immunity that develops, or a vaccine emerges, this condition stands to maim or kill a sizeable percent of the population within the next few years.

This is unnecessarily negative man. The whole worry about H1N1 was that the specific strain had not been observed in widespread human infection for almost 100 years, and there was no widespread herd immunity. It has just become another Influenza A strain that spreads every year now, without making headlines.

While a novel coronavirus, this isnt the first coronavirus to infect humans. There are 4 common strains of Coronavirus I've mentioned before, not to mention SARS and MERS. ChinkAIDS is the 7th version, and the 5th widespread version. You dont see the other 4 main strains wiping out humanity every spring. This strain, like the others, will fade into the background with time. We are already seeing the aggressiveness of the disease weaken over time, Italy has gotten hit hard, but places like germany, the UK, and the US are not getting hit as hard

ChinkAIDS is not Spanish flu 2 drowning bogaloo.

 

[NyQuilninja]

the game is rigged and none of us get to play
good to see are elected officials wont be going with out

 

[Phalanx]

How long do you think this will last the self-isolation, here in the UK I believe 3 more weeks then the government will retract it due to civil unrest. Patriotism is cute and all but when you realise its a very very very slim minority dying who will be dead in a few years, the patriotism loses its luster.

OK I am being hypothetical deeply hypothetical and very cold. It feels like the Governments are trying to do everything including tank everything for some fatties some old biddies. Lets be real a lot of dead boomers kind of free ups a lot of housing especially here in the UK.

I can somewhat understand America's logic yes it is very idealistic and conceited but they honestly need to else the balance of power shifts to much. The CCP must be laughing their asses off because none of the powers have questioned them at least publicly because they are afraid too. America need to continue to not let the East gain control of overall power since the west are getting hammered by this.

Yeah we wonder why they kicked out the forum tourists. No this is not my actual view this is me playing devils advocate in the situation we are in.

I think we are going to get a wave personally it will calm down in April then in May it will hit again, so far my personal theory for it to affect the world from March is true.

April aka next week, decrease in European cases and UK will think they have a handle. Travel bans and open borders will open up in mid April late April except US which will be hit really hard.

May it will pop up again but this time in a "random" location truth is China did not report it. Countries will go into lock down again for a month. Rinse repeat I am curious about it mutating as here in the UK its getting young people.