Most Sensible Thing Chris has said?

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Abethedemon said:
Him being more open to gays and lesbians nowadays.
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He was always open to lesbians, because he could fap to them. He never liked homosexual males, and still doesn't. He might suggest otherwise on occasion, but it's only under duress because he knows people shout at him if he says the homo males don't deserve the same rights and respect as lesbians.
 
Jamsta's Second Cousin said:
He was always open to lesbians, because he could fap to them. He never liked homosexual males, and still doesn't. He might suggest otherwise on occasion, but it's only under duress because he knows people shout at him if he says the homo males don't deserve the same rights and respect as lesbians.
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This isn't true. Chris is concerned with LGBT issues and he genuinely accepts that that includes gay men, even if he personally hates them.
 
His most poetic (in a 90's poetry slam style) when he referred to Sarah Bevel as "Sarah Bevel. Total Adult, Condensating Bitch".

The typo aside, that's a fucking cut and a half. I was born in the 70's and if tomorrow someone called me a 'total adult' that shit would sting.

Granted he's lacking nuance and validity by being an utter child himself, but... Yeah man. That's some grunge CD liner note about a break up song yellow cake dis.
 
As far as the LBGT thing goes I think Chris would exclude gay men if he could. He still seems to hate them. He just realizes he can't.

Though I guess that's still pretty reasonable by Chris standards.
 
Marvin said:
This isn't true. Chris is concerned with LGBT issues and he genuinely accepts that that includes gay men, even if he personally hates them.
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I never said he wasn't concerned with LGBT issues. I said he doesn't like homosexual men but begrudgingly accepts they are grouped in with him these days. I don't see how there's any way of refuting that, as he hasn't updated his views as far as I've seen other than under the aforementioned duress.
 
He says lots of sensible things. Telling people they should get a job, live healthy, socialise in real life, all great advice. Whether he takes it, on the other hand...
 
Tsukiko said:
"Did I not just tell you I am Seven Inches Long?! It is soo long, that I am literally able to stretch it Under my taint, and tuck it between my own ass cheeks, beyond my ass hole. With help, I can literally even shove the head of the Ugly Growth Up Mine!"
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I'd argue that when taken in context, this is the most hilarious thing he's ever said. He's so into pussy, that he can insert his penis into his own ass. Take that, city boy.
 
Satan said:
His Future Message, where he adviced kids to stay in school. Pretty decent advice. He seemed a little more... salvageable, in those early days. I think it's because it was before the trolling, and because Bob was still around.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=73UsyGYk2FQ
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I think the lack of socialization with peers has caused the most issues, back then he had Megan and the Game Place anI think the problem is he expects relationships to be like they were with his old high school gal pals and I don't think he's willing to admit they were just pandering to Chris because they felt sorry for him and it never really was a mutual friendship.

Tragi-Chan said:
He says lots of sensible things. Telling people they should get a job, live healthy, socialise in real life, all great advice. Whether he takes it, on the other hand...
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When he says those things I think he's excluding himself because he's a special snowflake with autism and everyone should do all the hard work for him.
 
Jamsta's Second Cousin said:
I never said he wasn't concerned with LGBT issues. I said he doesn't like homosexual men but begrudgingly accepts they are grouped in with him these days. I don't see how there's any way of refuting that, as he hasn't updated his views as far as I've seen other than under the aforementioned duress.
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No, he's updated his views. For example, if there was a story in the news about gay men being kept from marrying, that would piss Chris off and he'd complain about it. He does complain about things like that, including events that have no mention of females being involved.

No duress necessary.
 
Marvin said:
No, he's updated his views. For example, if there was a story in the news about gay men being kept from marrying, that would piss Chris off and he'd complain about it. He does complain about things like that, including events that have no mention of females being involved.

No duress necessary.
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I don't see how not mentioning something means he's suddenly okay with it. He's learned to not talk negatively about homosexual males because he knows he gets shit if he does. He hasn't said "I actually love homosexual males as brothers, we are all in this struggle together". The last mentions I can recall were him begrudgingly acknowledging they deserve to be under the LGBT banner at all. That's hardly a love-in. I'm sure if you conversed with him about gay males his latent unease would be obvious.
 
Jamsta's Second Cousin said:
I don't see how not mentioning something means he's suddenly okay with it. He's learned to not talk negatively about homosexual males because he knows he gets shit if he does. He hasn't said "I actually love homosexual males as brothers, we are all in this struggle together". The last mentions I can recall were him begrudgingly acknowledging they deserve to be under the LGBT banner at all. That's hardly a love-in. I'm sure if you conversed with him about gay males his latent unease would be obvious.
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It's not "not mentioning something". He's specifically talking about gay men deserving equal rights.

And no, he doesn't love homosexual men. He hates them like he hates all men.
 
Jamsta's Second Cousin said:
I'm sure if you conversed with him about gay males his latent unease would be obvious.
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I can't find the specific examples presently (will edit as and when I do) but this has indeed happened already in some recently leaked emails, suggesting his prejudice is still very much present (if not dumbed down slightly or at least buried under several layers of SJW solidarity). If I recall, someone mentioned homosexuals or asked if Chris was gay himself whilst talking about the tomgirlism thing, and he flew off the handle or was at the very least passively negative about the subject, in a way that made it fairly undeniable that CWC's homophobia was alive and well.

Hate to disagree with Marvin but I think this is one opinion that even Chris (in his usual fashion of ignoring his own deeply held beliefs out of sheer convenience) can't and wont ever fully overturn. Then again I seem to remember these emails being from the relatively early Tomgirl days, and so he may have done a 180 on the subject since then. Stranger things have happened, like when he became a borderline alcoholic after nearly 30 years of staunch abstinence.
 
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Marvin said:
It's not "not mentioning something". He's specifically talking about gay men deserving equal rights.

And no, he doesn't love homosexual men. He hates them like he hates all men.
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Chris has always had a weird level of misandry, a hatred and fear of all men. But he has enough sense to realize that he can't advocate anything like "get rid of all men".

His homophobia was influenced by 3 things that I can think of.

1. "Old-fashioned" values he got from his parents.
2. A gay couple is twice the males, and thus twice the dislike from Chris.
3. People needled him by calling him "gay". I think that really pushed him further down a path he was admittedly already on.

He seems to have gotten past that a little. Maybe it was his break from the internet and having to deal with all of the "Chris is gay" stuff. Maybe as he began to go down a weird gender issue path himself he realized it was hypocritical.

But as you say, he now treats gay men like all men. He doesn't like them at all. He doesn't want them around. But that is because they have penises, not because they like penises. And he seems to appreciate the need for some constistency in his positions about LGBT rights.
 
timtommy said:
Chris has always had a weird level of misandry, a hatred and fear of all men. But he has enough sense to realize that he can't advocate anything like "get rid of all men".

His homophobia was influenced by 3 things that I can think of.

1. "Old-fashioned" values he got from his parents.
2. A gay couple is twice the males, and thus twice the dislike from Chris.
3. People needled him by calling him "gay". I think that really pushed him further down a path he was admittedly already on.

He seems to have gotten past that a little. Maybe it was his break from the internet and having to deal with all of the "Chris is gay" stuff. Maybe as he began to go down a weird gender issue path himself he realized it was hypocritical.

But as you say, he now treats gay men like all men. He doesn't like them at all. He doesn't want them around. But that is because they have penises, not because they like penises. And he seems to appreciate the need for some constistency in his positions about LGBT rights.
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I think he also on some level thinks gay people want to rape him or they'll find some way to make him gay. There's no real way to explain his irrational hatred of gays other than that he's a repressed homosexual, which everyone is constantly denying as well.
 
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