Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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In the last paragraph they're reporting that a supermarket in Sicily was raided by people who refused to pay, so it's like looting is starting to occur. Police are patrolling the streets now.
 
If I was President Trump I would direct that no Chinese students' visas for study in the USA be renewed. When the school year is over, out they go, whether they are in high school or medical school. Many "students" are actually Chinese military/government operatives sent here as spies. Sadly, seems like all most US schools care about are those tuitions being paid by the Chinese. Reminds me of a quotation from Marx, I think. "The capitalists will sell us the rope to hang themselves."

Twitter -- and the ChiCom shills -- has already started preemptively talking about how horrifically waycist it would be if the evil big bad Trumpy Wumpy did anything to China's obvious spy network in the US.

I've heard for years about how the Chinese exchange students are just fucking horrible. Absolute shit. Some are ok, yes. But many many more are the children of rich Chinese who are sent over to the US to get them out of China, and who use the education system as a glorified escalator school where they're guaranteed a degree and can just party for 4 years, and then move into the US under an H1-B or some other backdoor Visa program so they can help out family by having someone in the US ready to go.

There was a great twitter thread from a few years back about it. I can't seem to find it, but there's this discussion from another professor having to deal with the little Pollution Goblin Spawn in Australia not the US:



Basically, Australian schools have the math classes filled with exchange students because they can't speak English but can do math. The professor is trying to stop them but they're using essay writing services to cheat. Since he has to make the class so easy that stupid fucking chinks that can't even speak English can pass, that inherently destroys the class.


But the Universities in Australia take in 9 billion dollars a year from the Polution Goblins and various subsidies. So there's no fucking way they're gonna stop. The degrees are basically being used as a backdoor visa program and everyone knows it.

Oh, and he can't even fail the Pollution goblins in his class for plagiarism, which would get anyone else expelled immediately. They were given second and third chances until they pass by the administration.
 
This is gonna happen more. A lot of critical services like law enforcement, power, and medical will break down if employees refuse to work out of fear of personal safety.

I really dislike this fairweather mentality among our public security and utility services. When you take taxpayer money to do a job, that job comes with certain responsibilities. In the case of police and prison guards, among those responsibilities is going into dangerous situations that could kill you. Or with utility workers, keeping the lights on the face of natural disasters disasters or even civil unrest.We hear quite a bit from cops about how they put their lives on the line for the community. Well nut up or shut up. In a civilized society cops who refuse to work during a national emergency should be hung for desertion. But I will be mollified with them just being fired for cause.
 
Somewhat eventful day in Finland.
So Uusimaa went officially on lockdown on the night between Friday and Saturday. About 700 people turned back today. Some 65 year old dude rammed trough 2 checkpoints and was on the run after he drove off the road. Was later caught.
Dude must have thought this meme was a guide.
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Now to stats: 1 163 confirmed cases to date, hospital 112, intensive care 31.
9 Deaths
Number of cases per region on map bellow, also available in here
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Went to the commissary today.

New rules - from 9 to 10:30 a.m. on Saturdays shopping is restricted to active duty in uniform only. Base policeman was at the entrance. And only 75 patrons are being allowed in the store at a time, counted by carts (one per shopper). This is an Army-wide policy.

Got in right at 10:30. Garrison commander himself, Army full colonel, checked my ID going in. This man has been at the commissary the last several Saturdays in a row, helps wherever possible. No toilet paper. Some tissues. Few napkins. Milk supply good, eggs short, meat/chicken fair. Good supply of water. Had rice. Shortages of a number of things, such as spices and certain canned/frozen foods. Plenty of produce. Item limits of two to a patron on everything except produce. However, a multi-pack counts as just one item. Got just about everything on the list.

Biggest shock of the day - drove by base gas station. Didn't need gas due to so little driving. Gas was $1.99 gallon for regular, ten cents more for mid-grade, $2.19/gallon for premium. Couldn't believe my eyes. Cheapest gas I see in town is $2.99/gallon. Will be going to doctor in another town Monday, have the usual payday business to take care of Wednesday, so will see how much gas goes for in those places.
 
Nobody is on the roads. The transportation industry is probably saving over an hour or more on average on deliveries. This may not seem like much but applied nationally? Hoo boy. This is a really good time to be a trucker.
*Federal Department of Transit rules state no one may drive commercially more than 10 hours a day.
That's like a 10% increase in productivity without doing meth.
 
Thank you, that is interesting. I suspect that the BMI distribution almost mirrors that in the general population with a slight over representation. We are a bunch of fat bastards, although still not as fat as over the pond. You don’t often see deathfats in the UK, even if most people are overweight.
50% Survival in ICU is the rate in Italy too. If you need a vent you’re in a bad way. What is notable is that the mean duration of stay in ICU is 6 days - in Italy it’s been I think 15. That plus the fact it’s 70-80 dead and recovered each and 600 plus still in ICU means that They’re still in an early stage of treating. As it goes on expect to see that stay lengthen.

I am also concerned about parts of the USA, where the average BMI is high - like off the charts high. Italy and Spain, for example, don't have extreme obesity. Neither does France or much of anywhere in Europe.

Germany and the UK etc. have some fat people walking around, but they don't have an epidemic of obesity to the extent that people who waddle from point A to point B. I am talking about a statistically significant percent of the population that can not fully participate in daily life, because they can not keep up due to obesity. Including children.

People who are that obese generally have shorter lifespans but still. They will take up an ICU bed. Or do you cull them and send them home to die, in favor of a thinner teacher or nurse? Or do you send the nurse home to die, because a deathfat got there first?

Not all states and municipalities have this obesity problem as much as others. Places like Miami, Los Angeles, Seattle, Denver, NYC have less issues than States like Missippi, Alabama, Wisconsin, Louisiana, some parts of Texas, etc.
 
Twitter -- and the ChiCom shills -- has already started preemptively talking about how horrifically waycist it would be if the evil big bad Trumpy Wumpy did anything to China's obvious spy network in the US.
I'm angry; I've had enough of these people!
They're a bunch of Christian-murdering scum that run giant death factories !
What more do you need to know about these people?
 
Wait, you're an asthmatic who self-medicates a possible corona case and you're more or less OK? No oxygen bottles or mechanical ventilation involved?
Yes. I probably could have done with a bit of oxygen for a few days if I’m honest, and if things weren’t so busy I’d have gone in for it, but I managed Ok without it. Most otherwise healthy, young asthmatics who get this are going to be alright. I wouldn’t say self medicated, my GP gave the drugs - you can’t just go in and pick n mix whatever you fancy (mores the pity...)
 
I wouldn’t say self medicated, my GP gave the drugs - you can’t just go in and pick n mix whatever you fancy (mores the pity...)
At least in the UK you can get them from the pharmacist now. It was stupid how you used to have to book an appointment just to get a prescription that's been the same longer than the asthma nurse has been a nurse. The left considers this dangerous privatisation though.
 
30,000 dead, an impressive milestone for a novel disease in a modern world. I'm proud of everyone for helping make this a possibility. If we keep going like this, we'll overtake flu statistics in no time, go globe!
Save the frames, kill the animals
How's everyone's life doing during this shit atm? I'm starting to learn programming and unity. Might as well use this time for something productive. Also the tiger king on netflix was awesome
We didn't even get a fucking meeting at work about our situation, and we just had a stay at home order announced. I had to ask someone in a different department what the fuck is happening, and all he was told was 'business as usual.'
 
I really dislike this fairweather mentality among our public security and utility services. When you take taxpayer money to do a job, that job comes with certain responsibilities. In the case of police and prison guards, among those responsibilities is going into dangerous situations that could kill you. Or with utility workers, keeping the lights on the face of natural disasters disasters or even civil unrest.We hear quite a bit from cops about how they put their lives on the line for the community. Well nut up or shut up. In a civilized society cops who refuse to work during a national emergency should be hung for desertion. But I will be mollified with them just being fired for cause.snt


THIS. To the max.

When you join the military, least the US military, you are told of the unwritten "unlimited liability" clause in your contract. It is understood that you can be injured or killed in the performance of your duties. Among us, that's a given. And for my part, the hearing aids in the ears remind me of that clause.

Far as military pay goes, at the lower ranks who make up the vast majority of those who go into harm's way, the pay is too low for what they are expected to do as a matter of course. Pay at upper ranks is good, but relatively few military people above the rank of major/lieutenant commander go into harm's way. Having said that, military pensions are not that high. We also know that going in. But the pension also comes with base shopping privileges and very cheap medical insurance that beats anything downtown. To get a military pension of $100,000/year you'd have to have at least one star and well over 30 years on active duty. There is the possibility of getting disability compensation from the Veterans' Administration, but normally what happens is the amount of the disability payment is deducted from your pre-tax military pension payment, and you get the disability tax-free. But there are other benefits connected with getting the VA disability pay, both at the Federal and state levels.

I periodically check out TransparentCalifornia.com. Here you can find public employee salaries and pensions. In our town of maybe 30,000, most police officers'/firefighters' compensation is six figures. Many people who work for the city also pull down six figures, easy. But I don't believe a whole lot of the residents here make six-figure salaries by themselves.

Same thing at the county level. Many county employees making over six figures. A certain number work at the county hospital and in the county health system, but many more are just administrators.

Look at the pensions, and you see more that turns the stomach. Tons of public employees getting six-figure pensions. One thing police/fire do to up that pension - work every minute of overtime possible that last year, and cash in all the vacation/sick leave. Pension in these cases based on last year's total compensation - regular pay, overtime, cashed-in vacation/sick leave. Oh, we military people's pension is a percentage of just our base pay. That's all.

So when I hear of our "brave" police/fire, I remember they are compensated far better, and will have far better pensions, than the vast majority of American servicemen and servicewomen who daily fight, and have fought for us, on battlefields all over. And by the time most police/fire are eligible for a pension they've been on desk duty for some time.

Utility workers - they get paid, they know the inherent dangers in the job. One reason people such absurdly high utility rates.
 
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