Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[heterotic]

God, I hate this and I hate my morbid curiosity for continuing to make me click on these damn links.



Because that’s not creepy. If I was their brother, I would be terrified. I don’t buy into this “introject” Norman Bates bullshit. Just say you’re LARPing and move on.

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This should be fun. Isn’t changing your handwriting one of the hardest things you can do? There are always certain tells that a particular person wrote it. I wonder if that applies to drawing as well? I know when I try to do different drawing styles, there are always certain “traits” to my art that make it obvious it’s my art that I don’t do consciously.

I have refrained from clicking anything, somehow. I am worried I will somehow gain this fucked up fetish if I do.

As for changing your handwriting, it can actually be heavily tied to your moods and health, so if someone has a personality disorder or some kind of mood swings, their handwriting can shift frequently, and be quite inconsistent. If someone has the ability to fake their moods, I would imagine their handwriting could follow.

I read something recently that listed a change in handwriting as a sign of being suicidal in a "what to watch for" with loved ones.

Your handwriting is essentially a snapshot based on your mental and physical health at any given time. Handwriting analysis that comes from the defense in crimes is often not admissible because of discrepancies like this.

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Talked to someone today about DID and these YouTubers: she's currently in therapy for DID and has been for months. She goes weekly and is getting better. She says that the way that people portray DID is quite obviously fake and her psychiatrist believes that anyone who does "character development" for their alternate states of consciousness is almost certainly malingering or factitious, because it's like a third person observing the disorder and creating imagery that helps them understand what someone with DID is experiencing. If it seems like a novel or a movie or a TV show, it's because for them, it is. They are creating the world and using it as entertainment, playing the role that gets them the attention or financial benefit.

The psychiatrist believes whole-heartedly that media portraying DID, even if the stories themselves were debunked (like Sybil), have helped create a false criteria for doctors to use to diagnose DID, so people like Chloe can get an official diagnosis from a handful of clinicians who are convinced that this is what the disorder is. She said that if someone comes to her specifically looking for a DID diagnosis and mentions an experience that revolves mainly around clearly developed characters and storylines for those characters, she dismisses them and refuses to see them. She said that typically these people are coming in for the diagnosis, and not for treatment or help.

I'm pretty firm in my belief now that ALL of these YouTubers are faking now, and that the only people who have DID don't know that they have it, and when it is diagnosed, they seek therapy and don't create characters and world build around it.

 

[Ryanstartedthefire]

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I guess Chloe is trying to become the next Kim Noble.

 

[Redhairedgothgirl]

Their whole inner world shit is like a shitty remake of heavenly creatures

 

[DissociaDONT]

One of the most exhausting things about watching Chloe and Nan's videos is just how much they have wrong with them. And they feed off each other. Especially Chloe. If Nan has a problem, suddenly Chloe has something similar if not the same.

They filmed the Sanitea podcast while they were in the UK together because it was their "traumaversery" in Winter. Literally used that word. "Traumaversery."

What bugs me most is all the talk of repressed memories and how DID wants to trick you and have you in denial and not let you learn about the terrible shit that's happened to you. And there's not a single caveat about false memories. No mention of how controversial repressed and recovered memories are, the well-documented history of all the horror stories when it became a fad. How it's still controversial.

I guess it kind of falls in line with the whole idea of, "If you think you're faking DID, you're not faking!" Might as well recommend some manufactured trauma so kids can accuse their family of imagined ritualized abuse after diagnosing themselves with a rare (if it exists at all) mental illness.

Even if Nan and Chloe are as damaged as they think they are, they have no business giving advice to anyone. Chloe regularly talks about passing out because of panic attacks and how annoying it is when concerned onlookers call ambulances. Who the fuck regularly passes out because of panic attacks? They can get bad, but I've never met anyone in my life that dropped like a Victorian lady with the vapours a couple times every month. And that's on top of, "I'm dissociating so bad right now" and "I'm trying not to trigger myself" on camera, a medium she can control. Even this wasn't a bid for attention, why would anyone believe these two are fit to give advice or educate others when, obviously, they haven't been able to use any of that knowledge to help themselves a whole hell of a lot.

 

[BScaller!]

Archiving a few videos and came across this. At 5:40 she talks about how Kyle helped her through school and an abusive relationship. That would mean she was in this relationship she's hinted at in the past somewhere between 2012 and 2015 when she was at college. Still far too late to have caused her DID. Likely to be Kennedy who she interacted with often on Twitter at that time. Planning on piecing together her timeline this weekend so I'll leave this here for now.

Her description of Nadia shortly afterwards is horrific.

At 9:04 she talks about Jade and mentions her 'birth Mum'. Since when has she been adopted? Also Jade lives in a cave, sleeps on the floor, collects jewels, and is so slender that other members of the system are worried about her. Why are all of her alters described as slender? What happens if one starves to death in her head? Does her head mansion smell of decay? Will she split into an undertaker to deal with the problem?

I also found this quite amusing; 01:16

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Also, Nan has literal brain damage. Her family think a bike accident gave her DID because they don't remember any childhood trauma having happened to her and she describes that as invalidating at 04:31.

Glad your saving these cuz something tells me theres gonna be a channel cleanse & its gonna come crashing down on her soon. Too many eyes on her to keep straight! Thanks for doing that

 

[BScaller!]

This is the video where the child alter would've had to adjust the camera in "switching 9 times" vid with timestamps. At 5:24 the angle switches and then its turned back up at 5:44 so it's not editing.

Ps: I'm learning how to navigate this but you all have made me realize that no everyone is up her ass and cann see the BS

 

[Shrryph1]

Well, looks like someone has finally made a video. And did a really nice job at it, too.

Edit: Well, I snarfed it. Figures. I’m still brand new at this site, cut me some slack, man! Anyway, it’s a video someone made about DissociaDID and her creepy, squealing fans and the way she intentionally clickbaits and encourages all this.

 

[heterotic]

One of the most exhausting things about watching Chloe and Nan's videos is just how much they have wrong with them. And they feed off each other. Especially Chloe. If Nan has a problem, suddenly Chloe has something similar if not the same.

They filmed the Sanitea podcast while they were in the UK together because it was their "traumaversery" in Winter. Literally used that word. "Traumaversery."

What bugs me most is all the talk of repressed memories and how DID wants to trick you and have you in denial and not let you learn about the terrible shit that's happened to you. And there's not a single caveat about false memories. No mention of how controversial repressed and recovered memories are, the well-documented history of all the horror stories when it became a fad. How it's still controversial.

I mentioned this in a previous post, but repressed memories aren't always traumatic, and if there is amnesia because of trauma, there's (to my knowledge) always signs of the abuse. And though people process and experience trauma differently, especially at such a young age, when it comes to sensory suppression and memory repression... there's still a sense of what happened. A lot of times there's peripheral memories that can inform what the events that have been suppressed are, and when it's large gaps in memory (like months or years),
there is always evidence of abuse or trauma. People know when they've grown up in a cult or a war zone, they know when they grew up homeless, etc. When it comes to sexual abuse, and even other types of abuse, there are signs that professionals are trained to notice.

People like Chloe sell this idea that experiencing childhood amnesia automatically means you must have been abused, even if you have no sense that you have been. Even when you don't recall it, deep down, you know. And when your primary caregiver was involved in some or all of the abuse or neglect, you don't suddenly have a good relationship with them because you "don't remember the trauma". It just is so clear that Chloe is completely clueless when it comes to childhood abuse and neglect and it's frustrating knowing she's out there spreading egregious misinformation that can really harm people who desperately need help and support.

This is the video where the child alter would've had to adjust the camera in "switching 9 times" vid with timestamps. At 5:24 the angle switches and then its turned back up at 5:44 so it's not editing.

Oh my god she says she wants fan fiction in this video, I lost the timestamp and cbf to watch this again

 

[BScaller!]

https://youtu.be/j0HOwD5uxtA

Well, looks like someone has finally made a video. And did a really nice job at it, too.

Edit: Well, I snarfed it. Figures. I’m still brand new at this site, cut me some slack, man! Anyway, it’s a video someone made about DissociaDID and her creepy, squealing fans and the way she intentionally clickbaits and encourages all this.

OMG so good to here lol!!
Edit: only thing is hes not saying they're frauds but..I agree with how the comments on the videos being cringe & its gross how many ppl are buying Nins shit...he does say she encourages it tho since she likes the dumbest comments and here vid titles

 

[leadhanded]

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Assuming people are white... because of appearance

Assuming people are white... because of appearance

...is she fucking kidding? Have words lost all meaning? How are people this fucking stupid?

 

[comrade666]

Even if Nan and Chloe are as damaged as they think they are, they have no business giving advice to anyone. Chloe regularly talks about passing out because of panic attacks and how annoying it is when concerned onlookers call ambulances. Who the fuck regularly passes out because of panic attacks? They can get bad, but I've never met anyone in my life that dropped like a Victorian lady with the vapours a couple times every month. And that's on top of, "I'm dissociating so bad right now" and "I'm trying not to trigger myself" on camera, a medium she can control. Even this wasn't a bid for attention, why would anyone believe these two are fit to give advice or educate others when, obviously, they haven't been able to use any of that knowledge to help themselves a whole hell of a lot.

The one that gets me is "I'm feeling switchy!" as a warning she's about to put on one of her accents. As for her passing out due to panic attacks but not wanting ambulances that would again suggest HPD over munchies. According to her CFS video she also passes out in the middle of the floor like a sim and demands someone bring her blankets and pillows so she can sleep right there rather than sitting down or having someone help her to a chair. I don't have CFS and I don't know how quickly it takes over but if your condition is so severe you sometimes drop where you're standing then you should be in a care home.

Well, looks like someone has finally made a video.

Christ, which one of you spergs is this? I know I've been autistically collecting everything I can in this thread and using quarantine work from home hours for the opposite of work but even I'm not actively angry about her.

People know when they've grown up in a cult or a war zone, they know when they grew up homeless, etc. When it comes to sexual abuse, and even other types of abuse, there are signs that professionals are trained to notice.

We know she was in the school system throughout her life. I've got a few Brit friends from a similar area who all say teachers are often overzealous with reporting concerns. The thing that makes me laugh about this girl is that she says she's grown up in the same area all of her life and the area in question is fairly affluent but also fairly boring. I'd love to see her spin some story about a cult in a quiet English town populated mostly by elderly white couples.

Oh my god she says she wants fan fiction in this video, I lost the timestamp and cbf to watch this again

As in she wants fan fiction of her alters? Her alters that sprang up out of crippling trauma? Incredible.

 

[heterotic]

We know she was in the school system throughout her life. I've got a few Brit friends from a similar area who all say teachers are often overzealous with reporting concerns. The thing that makes me laugh about this girl is that she says she's grown up in the same area all of her life and the area in question is fairly affluent but also fairly boring. I'd love to see her spin some story about a cult in a quiet English town populated mostly by elderly white couples.

I wonder if she will leave it ambiguous or come up with a story. Not sure which is more beneficial to her BS.

As in she wants fan fiction of her alters? Her alters that sprang up out of crippling trauma? Incredible.

Yep, the things that are definitely "not characters" or "roleplaying fantasies".

 

[comrade666]

I wonder if she will leave it ambiguous or come up with a story. Not sure which is more beneficial to her BS.

Yep, the things that are definitely "not characters" or "roleplaying fantasies".

I had a quick look at Guru Gossiper as I was told they've got someone from her school hanging around. They're demanding a detailed trauma disclosure from Chloe. The morbid curiosity of teenage girls and stay at home thirty somethings knows no bounds. I think she'll be more likely to read that thread than this one, so she might feel the pressure to come up with a story soon. Whether it'll be a definitive this happened at this point in my life or just more hint dropping only time will tell. I'd like to know what sort of repeated trauma one can face in middle class England but I'd rather not hear the details of sexual abuse so I've got my fingers crossed for the cult.

I found her latest video with the 'roleplaying fantasies' quote so telling. She was so caught up in her anger at having been called a fantasist she didn't even think to pull out a character. 'Nin' is usually docile but her wE aRe nOt RoLePlAyiNg FaNtAsIEs was very Jade-esque.

ETA- No one seems to be archiving Nan's content which gives me so much second hand embarrassment so here you go.

Little Jeremy (about 12 at the time?) made up a song on The Witcher Geralt (the giraffe) to make dissociaDID smile about week and a half ago. (first vid was posted on tiktok but this is the entire song Jeremy did)...
We hope this brings a smile to someone face. Watching this afterwards made me smile, ngl lol. Please take care everyone! - nan
#littlealter #jamoriginal #bop #didsystem

 

[heterotic]

A pseudo-European area... definitely sounds like something a 12 year old would say.

 

[DissociaDONT]

This is the video where the child alter would've had to adjust the camera in "switching 9 times" vid with timestamps. At 5:24 the angle switches and then its turned back up at 5:44 so it's not editing.

lmao at her sitting on a bed getting showered with gifts from adoring fans only to turn it into another "poor me" video at the end. Chloe got triggered and had to stop. Someone sent an evangelical letter. Gift opening canceled. This is why we can't have nice things.

Long, teary-eyed spiel about how Christianity is a trigger and she has it written with her PO box and how not cool this is... Except it's totally cool if the very Christian Toi magazine sends her Christian books to talk about and feature in a sponsored giveaway. Money cancels out triggers.

 

[comrade666]

lmao at her sitting on a bed getting showered with gifts from adoring fans only to turn it into another "poor me" video at the end. Chloe got triggered and had to stop. Someone sent an evangelical letter. Gift opening canceled. This is why we can't have nice things.

Long, teary-eyed spiel about how Christianity is a trigger and she has it written with her PO box and how not cool this is... Except it's totally cool if the very Christian Toi magazine sends her Christian books to talk about and feature in a sponsored giveaway. Money cancels out triggers.

So if religion is a trigger perhaps we really will get a cult backstory?

 

[heterotic]

So if religion is a trigger perhaps we really will get a cult backstory?

You're toeing the line of creating the fan fiction that Chloe has been yearning for

 

[Cooking Mama]

As in she wants fan fiction of her alters? Her alters that sprang up out of crippling trauma? Incredible.

I’m so tempted.

 

[Jewthulhu]

The trauma that caused her DID is probably something else, if she’s even got her story straight in her head. Like you said, I wouldn’t be surprised if she claimed she doesn’t actually know or remember anything about it, but because it has to happen for DID to form, she just assumed. There must be a reason why she is open about her other traumas, but the most relevant one is a secret.

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According to Chloe, either her parents nor Chloe herself knows what trauma caused her "DID."

Two points from the video I found interesting: At one point, she describes feeling like she didn't have control of her arm, which from what I understand is an actual symptom of depersonalization. It's specific enough that it feels legitimate, but I honestly don't know enough about the dissociative disorders to tell whether depersonalization can be localized like that or not.

Another point is their discussion on abuse. As pointed out by a few people in this thread, they seem to have this feeling that just because they have amnesia there must have been abuse. Chloe specifically talks about having a memory and blatantly assuming that it must have been real just because she can't remember.

So if religion is a trigger perhaps we really will get a cult backstory?

As funny as that would be, I think religion is a "trigger" for her because she's a gay.

 

[comrade666]

As funny as that would be, I think religion is a "trigger" for her because she's a gay.

Is that still a problem in England? I'm genuinely surprised.

According to Chloe, either her parents nor Chloe herself knows what trauma caused her "DID."

I've just started watching this in the background. Their excessive PDA is really odd so far. I don't understand why they can't keep their hands to themselves for a twenty minute supposedly educational video. Pulling their friend into their weird pawing of each other is uncomfortable in a way I can't quite identify.
24:11 she openly admits that her parents love her and support her. Where is her disorganised or unstable attachment to her primary caregivers?