Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Seeing a LOT more people with masks at local grocery store in Florida. More policemen going around and making sure social distancing rules are enforced in the stores.

They finally got glass face shields for the cash registers but they are quite half assed in implementation. It's basically a window plane of glass that only covers the front of the cashier and does jack shit to protect baggers.

So literally every time the customer has to move up and pay with cash or card, the bagger has to move to the far wall like they are in time out at school.
 
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Hackallier said:
It still seems something that they could attempt to argue to the woke European Court of Human Rights.
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Have to disagree on that one. I don't see how that would translate into getting a citizenship and I don't see how the court could come to that conclusion or on what law or right they would base this - if they even wanted to, that is.
 
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The Tanzania niggger that cut lines and abused medical staff is officially deported.

We should learn from the slants and deport these dindu types of various colours too. They can go be shitbags in their own shithole.
There's enough of them to go around, too many I will argue.
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Well that's one less future doctor for the Chinese!

Gustav Schuchardt said:
I assumed they were lying too, because fuck the CCP. What's interesting about the Campbell video is that he's got a study where that figure seems to be close to the truth in Italy and other European countries too because it predicts a higher asymptomatic infection rate.

Here's the study

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/im...urope-estimates-and-NPI-impact-30-03-2020.pdf

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I don't really know enough about their model to say whether it's realistic.

There are studies coming out of China which are lies. There are studies coming out which are true. There are studies that would have been true but were censored as politically inconvenient. Hell, presumably there are studies that would have been lies but were also censored as politically inconvenient too because the people doing the censoring were too fucking stupid to realize.
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I mean the subject is asymptomatic, and therefore less likely to be initially detected cases.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but just because the ChiComs were lying and fudging their numbers doesn't make them untrue. The ChiComs very well could have told a lie and stumbled ass-backwards into the truth.
 
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pwnest injun said:
Don't forget the fact that they lost such a huge amount of their food supply to swine flu and bird flu immediately leading up to this pandemic. So, their population won't be happy no matter what.
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And as far as I know those two flus are still going on. Pork is China's primary meat. May have lost numbers of chickens, as well.
 
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
I assumed they were lying too, because fuck the CCP. What's interesting about the Campbell video is that he's got a study where that figure seems to be close to the truth in Italy and other European countries too because it predicts a higher asymptomatic infection rate.

Here's the study

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/im...urope-estimates-and-NPI-impact-30-03-2020.pdf

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https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...urope-estimates-and-NPI-impact-30-03-2020.pdf

I don't really know enough about their model to say whether it's realistic.

There are studies coming out of China which are lies. There are studies coming out which are true. There are studies that would have been true but were censored as politically inconvenient. Hell, presumably there are studies that would have been lies but were also censored as politically inconvenient too because the people doing the censoring were too fucking stupid to realize.

The final CFR for coronavirus is not something anyone knows for sure at this point and pinning it down is made by hard by the CCP randomly vanning scientists and deleting their papers. Even without that, I think it would be hard to pin down because reality is subtle.
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Death rate before total lockdown and police state conversion of China was 10-15%, in Wuhan.
After, it's about 3-5%. Account for some tolerances.
This number also matches with Taiwan, Singapore, and Korea. They implemented similar measures.
Unless one is willing to suggest that the whole collective of slant countries are lying... sure.

So it applies well actually.

Wuhan officials asked the lab to destroy samples to save their asses initially. All these idiots are now replaced. Hopefully they get executed for treason. You may not like it, but the shitfest of Wuhan got put in order after Beijing got involved. Before Winnie knew, it was a mess. Dr Li etc were arrested...

Still fuck the CPC. I like meritocracy based systems, but CPC combines it with party nepotism. No doubt, politicians of Wuhan got into their positions because of party connections. Head of Wuhan health department doesn't even have a degree in a related field, what a joke. Of course, this shit applies to most if not all countries with a functional government. Those with connections and influence gets chosen instead the ones with merit. Two or numerous wrongs don't make a right. Fuck them all.
 
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Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even just breathing
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The novel coronavirus pandemic continues to impact countries worldwide, particularly in Europe and the US. Follow here for live updates.
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"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of the National Academy of Sciences Standing Committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats.
 
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Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even just breathing
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The novel coronavirus pandemic continues to impact countries worldwide, particularly in Europe and the US. Follow here for live updates.
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"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of the National Academy of Sciences Standing Committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats.
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So CNN is only 2 months behind the thread?
Cool.
 
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If this thing spreads reliably merely by exhailing, that would explain the massive spread, and it would likely mean that those R0 numbers are WOEFULLY low.

It would also mean that it's absolutely vital that every single person in America get at least a ski mask or something to cover their mouth 24x7 when outside.
 
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UK Daily:

163,194 Tested (+10,215)

33,718 Positive (+4244)

2,921 Dead (+568 )

Slightly less than yesterday, but only just. It does seem to be hitting the expected peak with about the expected figures. Key will be if we start going down after the 5th of April.
 
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JosephStalin said:
The CCP has lost the propaganda war. Hell, they are the gang that couldn't even shoot straight. Sending defective medical supplies to Europe - what genius thought that up? They didn't think those supplies would be checked?
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There's an angle to this that I have been thinking about since the confirmation of faulty medical supplies intentionally being sent to Europe.

Maybe someone in China didn't think the supplies would be checked... because their customers haven't checked things in the past and so China has gotten away with it. We all know the trope of "made in China = shit", but maybe (definitely) the depth and breadth of just how shitty those products have been has been lost on the vast majority of people and in particular regulators.
 
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Growth rates allegedly slowing down, huh? My take: it's kind of too early to assume things like that.
 
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As I understand the US system though, a lot of people will also get their jobs back as soon as stuff opens up again.

Corona does the same to the economy in places it does to old people - it kills those that were kinda shaky already anyways. Just as many people who die of covid now would've never seen 2021 anyways, many businesses that are destroyed by being closed down for two weeks were not doing well to begin with. I feel just as it's too early for predictions of death rates, it's also too early for predictions of how hard the economy will be hit in places. In both cases, it's bad and there will be damage, but I don't think you can tell right now how much for either.

EDIT: also, at least for europe, there are pretty clear trends regarding the number of new infections, the lockdown measures are working:

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Stoneheart said:
germany will get to 1000 deaths and 20k recoveries today. alot of fresh deaths come from a couple of nursing homes that got infected.
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Yeah, this is where the German death rate will quickly approach 5% or even higher.
A friend of mine works in a pharmacy, they got a letter from the Medical Association (Ärztekammer), that they should stock up on morphine-based medication and stuff for palliative care.
The morphine, he said, is used to alleviate some breathing issues, so it's not meant to knock out people, so they can die painlessly. Still, the letter said that about 20% of those that get sick will need intensive care and hospitals are going to end up overrun most likely.

Shit is going to get bad from now on out.
 
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6.6. million Americans filed for unemployment last week, by far the biggest surge in U.S. history amid coronavirus shutdown
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As I understand the US system though, a lot of people will also get their jobs back as soon as stuff opens up again.
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Correct, a lot of people will be returning to work as soon as they are able to. As for filing for unemployment, in my case I filed but I have declined to collect. So while I am in the system, I am not actually drawing anything from said system. I will potentially start claiming time for compensation once my PTO runs out, but I may also find another job (either temporary or permanent, not sure yet. though I've been looking for a change) so the unemployment system may never see me draw benefits despite filing an "initial claim" as it is called.

And believe it or not, there are jobs out there and some places are hiring. You don't have to draw from the system if you'd rather work and aren't super duper picky. Lucky for me I like all kinds of work so it's not really an issue.
 
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