Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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How the hell is New York getting hit so hard? I figured it’d be the west coast that would be getting decimated by this.
Population density plus airbourne spread (which we did say was probable earlier, lots of denial about that, probably to avert panic and mask hoarding.)
This thing is airbourne. We knew it was. Why do you think the Chinese were Buying up masks like no tomorrow? You add that to a crowded city where people are packed into small apartments, often older buildings that share ventilation and boom, west coast has the population but it’s different housing - lower rise, less shared air.
Wait until this gets going in shanty towns, slums, and crowded third world places. You’re going to see the deathtoll get zeroes added overnight.
 
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At least one formerly influential Tory, Damian Green is saying we'll have to start treating them like the soviet union after all this shit is over. If someone who's now as impudent as Green felt safe writing this article, then you know he has a lot of other Tory MPs thinking the same.


PP, in some ways we've always treated them like the USSR. All I can say.

Today noted many more people out walking and riding bikes. Saw a man and his kids sitting outside Jack in the Box.

Had some other thoughts, as well. I can see some "genius" recommending, and the powers that be (at least in CA) mandating that people, when outside, crawl on their hands and knees. "If you cough, it will just go onto the ground, not in the air!". Then after that, it will be mandated that people bark, quietly, instead of talk. "Talking spreads the virus! If you bark quietly, the virus won't spread!". Then the powers that be will have truly reduced us to the status of the animals they have always considered us to be anyway. Am absolutely sure they would do this if they could get by with it.

Speaking of making people crawl, in some countries police are, in fact, making people crawl as punishment for breaking "social distancing" rules. Then they wonder why people keep breaking the rules.



 
How the hell is New York getting hit so hard? I figured it’d be the west coast that would be getting decimated by this.
POPULATION DENSITY is the most important factor when it comes to transmission. Megacities are DEATHTRAPS. Look at the PDF I posted last page. Compare madrid to the less dense areas of spain and fucking WEEP. And now compare the size and debsity of madrid with those of New York. Then take into account that Madrid's population is mostly docile and has been helpful in stopping contagion from day 1, whereas New York is gangland extraordinare where dindus run rampant and jews hoard bollocks. Finally realize madrid got infected from a few german businessmen, whereas NY has the ultramess of filth that is CHINATOWN. How can it NOT get fucked?!
 
On other news a family member managed to catch this graph on TV and sent me a photo. So. Seems we're now clearly on the recovery part of the curve. Ladies and gents this has an end!
That is a nice graph to see...
And as far as I know those two flus are still going on. Pork is China's primary meat. May have lost numbers of chickens, as well.
African swine fever too! Two flus plus that.
6 out of 10 workers live hand to mouth with no savings whatsoever? I refuse to believe that.
I believe it. The proportion who have sufficient savings is tiny. Even the middle classes with decent incomes dont save. They blow it on consumer goods and cars and holidays and haircuts and nails. The less well paid in the Uk at least find it hard to save - rent is huge, interest rates are low and people are bombarded with adverts for shiny things. So 6/10 nothing? Yeah.
 
POPULATION DENSITY is the most important factor when it comes to transmission. Megacities are DEATHTRAPS. Look at the PDF I posted last page. Compare madrid to the less dense areas of spain and fucking WEEP. And now compare the size and debsity of madrid with those of New York. Then take into account that Madrid's population is mostly docile and has been helpful in stopping contagion from day 1, whereas New York is gangland extraordinare where dindus run rampant and Trump's Chosen People hoard bollocks. Finally realize madrid got infected from a few german businessmen, whereas NY has the ultramess of filth that is CHINATOWN. How can it NOT get fucked?!

Normally I'd say yes, but there's some interesting data coming out in the UK. Derby is a tiny city and county in the grand scheme of things. About 200,000 in the city and 800,000 in the wider bongland county. Yet, as a proportion of population it's actually got a higher per capita amount of cases (509) than other major metro areas such as Manchester and Liverpool.
 
That is a nice graph to see...

African swine fever too! Two flus plus that.
I believe it. The proportion who have sufficient savings is tiny. Even the middle classes with decent incomes dont save. They blow it on consumer goods and cars and holidays and haircuts and nails. The less well paid in the Uk at least find it hard to save - rent is huge, interest rates are low and people are bombarded with adverts for shiny things. So 6/10 nothing? Yeah.

Actual class position doesn't really come into the issue of liquid resources.
For decades now financial managers and economists have been banging the drum that having savings and or actual cash is a waste of money because interest doesn't keep up with inflation.
 
Derby is a tiny city
Here’s a prediction or few for the UK: all the bits with high rates of cousin marriage will get hit hard. West Midlands, derby etc. The rate of genetic illness amongst those communities is a bloody scandal. They are where children are going to get affected most I think. There is very likely a genetic component to susceptibility
Derby has the combo of inbreeding, crowding, and communities that have generations in one house.
Sheffield page hall - massively hit with all the Slovak Roma.
Anywhere with big tower blocks is getting hit. Edinburgh sighthill, anniesland and everywhere else in Glasgow that’s high rise low income.
London - all those people crammed in sheds and house shares and fifteen to a house to send money back to the old country? All going to get hit badly.
 
Normally I'd say yes, but there's some interesting data coming out in the UK. Derby is a tiny city and county in the grand scheme of things. About 200,000 in the city and 800,000 in the wider bongland county. Yet, as a proportion of population it's actually got a higher per capita amount of cases (509) than other major metro areas such as Manchester and Liverpool.

500 cases is statistically insignificant. At that point it matters more external infection as opposed to internal spread. And derby just so happens to be smackdab in the middle of britain's net of transport, it's an important transport manufacturer with lots of trade, and has "sister cities" in germany (which infected everyone else in europe) and palestine (which can't be trusted for shit), yeah external contagion must be much higher for it than for most.

EDIT: Nevermind! I just noticed it is 500 in per capita not 500 flat. Fuck me I'm tarded sometimes. Otterly does give a much better reason, and I do still day early infection would result in it being more advanced (density accelerates infection but how soon it starts is also important.)
 
Here’s a prediction or few for the UK: all the bits with high rates of cousin marriage will get hit hard. West Midlands, derby etc. The rate of genetic illness amongst those communities is a bloody scandal. They are where children are going to get affected most I think. There is very likely a genetic component to susceptibility
Derby has the combo of inbreeding, crowding, and communities that have generations in one house.
Sheffield page hall - massively hit with all the Slovak Roma.
Anywhere with big tower blocks is getting hit. Edinburgh sighthill, anniesland and everywhere else in Glasgow that’s high rise low income.
London - all those people crammed in sheds and house shares and fifteen to a house to send money back to the old country? All going to get hit badly.

I reckon so, yes. Especially as so many of the bastards won't socially isolate as we've been seeing and even some mosques have remained open. I reckon the big central mosque will be shut, but the half dozen or so tiny "mosques" (which are little more than terraced houses) will stay defiantly open.


500 cases is statistically insignificant. At that point it matters more external infection as opposed to internal spread. And derby just so happens to be smackdab in the middle of britain's net of transport, it's an important transport manufacturer with lots of trade, and has "sister cities" in germany (which infected everyone else in europe) and palestine (which can't be trusted for shit), yeah external contagion must be much higher for it than for most.

EDIT: Nevermind! I just noticed it is 500 in per capita not 500 flat. Fuck me I'm tarded sometimes. Otterly does give a much better reason, and I do still day early infection would result in it being more advanced (density accelerates infection but how soon it starts is also important.)

It's 509 total in a county of a shade under 1 million. While it an old transport hub, there's huge areas that are basically bereft of people. That being said, the county is used as a commuter belt for Manchester, Sheffield, Nottingham and lately Birmingham so that might be a factor.

Same as in the city proper, it's 167 cases in a city of barely 250,000, or 1 in every 1497.
 
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better to die owing a million bucks, than live like an Evangelical dominionist

Fauci under protection? not surprised.
You sound just like one of my coworkers, who is now flipping out because, while he gets guaranteed pay, his OT is now zero. This dude worked 80+ hours a week, everything over 40 was OT, and used it to service the frankly utterly irresponsible amount of debt he owes for his houses, boats, RV, and hobbies. His opinion is that "when I die the banks get NOTHING because he took the free money!"

The laws of interest and payments are now very blatantly making themselves known. All those payments are differed, not cancelled, they'll be due once things start up again, and even his 80+ hour weeks wont be enough to service it all, and if he misses a single payment his interest rates are going to jump up 2-3%.

Yes, he is a total moron. Now, I do think that Ramsey is somewhat separated form reality, the dude has such a hard-on against debt, and much of his advice only works if you are independently wealthy. Things like "your car should not cost more then 1/4th of your yearly net income and you should only buy a car with cash" would result in the vast majority of americans driving rusted out shitboxes which, between reliability concerns and repair bills, would likely REDUCE overall income, and lead to more problems down the line.

Responsible use of debt and strategic reserves of cash are the key to truly getting ahead. The millionaires say all debt is bad, but the multi-millionaires disagree, and the billionaires love it and use it correctly to improve their lives. Something to think about. A disaster like Corona shows why having 3-6 months of income sitting in a savings account and living below your means is really sound advice, and something we have forgotten in our padded society where major disasters that stop the world for months on end just didnt happen anymore.
 
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